Why do Pisces always let me down? Dishonesty

April 26, 2020 at 16:12 (UT/GMT)
(Scorpio) Lunarat
Why do Pisces always let me down? Dishonesty
I’m a Scorpio woman and I’ve always gotten along really well with Pisces initially as friends and lovers... but it always ends due to dishonesty on their side.

Years ago, I was in a relationship with a Pisces man for several months. I thought the relationship was very special and real. However, I was quickly dumped with no warning and I learned later he was in it for the sex and he strung me along for that reason.

The latest experience has been with two very close women friends, who are both Pisces. They are parents I met at my daughter’s school. My daughter and their daughters were friends for a few years and recently their daughters pushed my daughter aside out of the friendship, as they did not want a third wheel since their interests were different than my daughter. As a result, the two moms pushed me aside as well but instead of being straight with me, have been shady and lied to me several times about what’s was really going on. Avoiding my calls and being cold and distant with no explanation.

I don’t have a history of any of this kind of thing happening with other friends. I couldn’t help but notice that my only experiences like this has been with Pisces! I’m certainly not suggesting all pisces are like this but I find it interesting. Especially since Scorpio and Pisces are supposed to be such a good matches in the friendship and lovers world. But I have to be honest in then I’m going to be very careful the next time I meet one! I feel like, especially with the friendship, that they are people I could truly trust and count on. But finding out this is not the case is quite surprising to me. I can usually trust my intuition in relationships but Pisces always takes me by surprise and proves me wrong.

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April 27, 2020 at 11:54
(Pisces) fishscales
Neptune is the planet of (among other things) illusion and deception, and I think alot of Pisceans are susceptible to those things, both on the giving and receiving end.

Check the condition and house placement of their Neptune. This may give you a clue as to how and where illusion and deception could manifest itself in their lives. (7th house, partnerships. 10th house? career, etc.) Just keep in mind the deception or illusion could go either way, or both ways. A 7th house Neptune may deceive in partnerships, but they may also be deceived. Both things may also occur at different times.

I´ve found that illusion can be a pretty integral part of many Pisceans´/Neptunians´lives, but it´s a crap shoot as to how it´s manifested, or channeled. Some may channel it through acting, or magic. If they make music, they may be one of those one man band types that makes their music sound like it´s being played by an army through manipulation of effects and recording techniques. And of course, some may manifest it through outright deception that may be extremely harmful to others. But there is generally some sort of sleight of hand present in the Pisces/Neptunian type...the house positon may give you some indication as to where it may take place.

Ironically, the position of Neptune may be an area of extreme sensitivity for Pisceans, and although they may be capable of deception in that area, they are often also capable of their deepest and most selfless sacrifices.

As with everything with this sign, there is almost always a duality and contradiction present in the averagely evolved type...

The highly evolved type transcends the need for illusion entirely, because what they are merging with is far better than anything even their fertile Pisces imaginations could dream up...
April 27, 2020 at 12:25
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What I´ve learned with this archetype falling my 8th house is they tend to hide things positive or negative. They´re not good at revealing the truth of motivations, intentions, or even the warning you about danger even in society or something they see on the News.

They tend to be misleading at times, while they may say one thing, never quite know how to follow through with actions.

They say a lot of things, but then they can create a lot of chaos and confusion in the sense leaving you there wondering why they are not showing up in your life emotionally, mentally, spiritually, physically, sexually, or financially.

They love being positive and optimistic. Even surrounding themselves with positive people. Pisces is the Liberator, so by being lost in the two worlds yin and yang, the two fish, they can be more escaping the physical world through various forms of entertainment and never quite interacting with you like other archetypes.

This isn´t really always being mean, but teaching you to be self-reliant, and finding your own value by not allowing yourself to feel rejected, or abandoned when someone´s not paying attention to your or focused on you.
They basically teach you to your self-worth, self-love, self-dignity isn´t dependent on whether they show up in your life or not.

Which in conventional society this would be considered neglect, abandonment, rejection etc. Yet, there´s a higher soul lesson of you rising out of the Virgo/Pisces victim mentality, sacrifice, and doing to much for others and not getting anything in return or out of the situation.
April 27, 2020 at 12:44
(Sagittarius) Sus
Oh Lunarat, I feel what you say!
Well, pisces is a dual and mutable sign. Their nature is a bit fickle.
I´m in love vy a pisces guy and this is the second pisces man I fall for. Sooo, pisces symbol are two fishes going different directions. You never know where they want to go. It´s a dual nature. What I know about pisces man (not all of course) they are not very faithfull. The more you try to cage or control them the faster they swim away.
You have to look all chart of course. The best way to deal with a pisces is let them go if they want to. Don´t get too attached. Enjoy their spiritual side (if they are evolved pisces) but that´s all. Besides, pisces are a bit bipolar don´t you think?
April 27, 2020 at 13:27
(Virgo) rohini moon
As a result, the two moms pushed me aside as well but instead of being straight with me, have been shady and lied to me several times about what’s was really going on. Avoiding my calls and being cold and distant with no explanation.

..like the old adage goes regarding Pisces....they lack a backbone. Instead of being firm and honest in their dealings to avoid confrontations - something they don´t do well with, they will most likely just avoid avoid avoid.. What they lack in understanding is that that kind of attitude is actually maddening - and childish - to most people.
April 27, 2020 at 13:59
(Virgo) rohini moon » goldenlion32
"They tend to be misleading at times, while they may say one thing, never quite know how to follow through with actions. "

Bingo.
would also equate to their piscean duality... Saying one thing, doing another.
April 27, 2020 at 15:09
(Scorpio) Angelina
Overall Pisces energy is difficult to define. It´s fluctuating a lot. And very often people with strong Pisces energy don´t have clear path, they rely on their emotions and those emotions change from minute to minute. But in the end- they are still nice and warm people and others forgive them their behaviour:)

So even though I have many Pisces in my life and these relationships are good, I can agree with You, that they can let You down very easily.

I wouldn´t be surprised with those Mums, that they would come back to You as easy as they rejected You the same minute Your children would become friends again.

So personally I just adapt to their energy, cause mostly often they don´t act like that on purpose:)
April 27, 2020 at 15:16
(Scorpio) Angelina » Sus
I agree with You a lot. If there isn´t another strong energy which would dilute Pisces emotional behaviour, these men are difficult to be together with.

They are charming, nice, soft. But they act like this with all other women. They can´t say no to other women. So yes, they tend to be not faithful. And they tend to hide their faults:D Sometimes they start living with their lies not even understanding what is true and what is not. So that´s why it is quiet difficult to rely on Pisces with Your whole heart.

But it is only a tendency, not a fact for sure. You have to consider whole chart. I still like Pisces with all their imperfections :D
April 27, 2020 at 15:52
(Aquarius) Leo Moon
Everyone is an individual. Sun sign is just a part of a person.

My sister is Pisces and she is the most practical, organized no bull shit person I know.

She always has a deep sense of care. She can have sharp words for fools but her helping actions shine through.

Like anyone she has flaws , but deception isn’t one of them.

She isn’t interested in astrology so I don’t know her chart.

I do suspect a heavy Aries influence. Her direct personality reminds me of the Aries I have known well.

All people are individuals.

I will add that when people indulge in self deception, that deception spills out onto the people around them.

The Pisces energy has created some great art.

Nothing is all good or bad.
April 27, 2020 at 16:48
(Taurus) Astro-Seek.com
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An individual is not his sun sign, his ascendant, and not even his moon sign. I laugh and sigh when I see others stereotyping zodiac sings. That only shows a lack of understanding of astrology.

A birth chart is composed of 12th houses, 12th signs, 10 planets, one asteroid (Chiron) and the Nodes of the Moon (not considering any other asteroids or astrological points). If you combine all those different energies - and they DO act in a combined way in every natal chart - what we end up having is hundreds (if not thousands) of different permutations/combinations that together, represents a personality. That´s why a birth chart is so unique and is considered as the "fingerprint" of our personality.

Absolutely no one is his/her Sun, Moon, or Asc, but a combination of ALL of the above manifested in unique ways. That´s why only by taking a chart as a whole - what is called "integration" - is the only way to understand a birth chart and a personality. And even when done that way, it is just IMPOSIBLE to fully predict a personality (or behavior) with just the analysis of the birth chart itself without also knowing something about the individual in question. Only then can a birth chart start - and thus a particular personality - to "make sense".

Thousands, or more correctly, millions of Pisces are definitely not as you are describing. And I know many of them. In fact, most of my close friends have very strong Pisces in their charts. And they are incredibly honest, fair, and just. That´s why they are my friends.
April 27, 2020 at 18:07
(Aries) ram_goat
yeah it always begins with those little lies..
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April 27, 2020 at 18:24
(Taurus) nutelina » ram_goat
Mr. "IMPOSIBLE" :4: Must be hard with such opposite traits, feelings versus thinking. Ends up being an idiot. :61:
April 27, 2020 at 18:25
(Aries) ram_goat » Leo Moon
Nothing is all good or bad.

...Said the Aquarius to the Scorpio...
April 27, 2020 at 18:44
(Capricorn) Luna Alba » Sus
You never know where they want to go

How can you cope w that? ?

I had a huge crush on a Pisces guy (he has many Aries placements, though). The crazy magnetism flowed both ways, but imagine that everything you describe (and fits him quite well) is the opposite of what a Cap is...so ofc it was a disaster :))
April 28, 2020 at 05:46
(Pisces) fishscales » Luna Alba
"but imagine that everything you describe (and fits him quite well) is the opposite of what a Cap is...so ofc it was a disaster :))"

Nah Pisces and Cap can be a great match... Each has what the other lacks... And needs...

That being said, I think it´s better to have a Pisces person be the pursuer rather than the pursued...

Them pursuing you means they´ve actually made their mind up about something and committed to it, which is a step in the right direction for Pisces...

Pisces hates confinement imposed from the outside, so if a Pisces is being pursued, they may perceive that as a threat and swim away before even assessing the situation/person properly...

They don´t do bad with self imposed confinement though...a relationship can be termed as "confining" in that it is a commitment, and with a commitment comes certain boundaries... "confinement" of a sort...

But the Pisces who chooses the "confinement" of a relationship voluntarily is usually a pretty good partner, because they chose that confinement themselves...

OK... Going way off on a tangent here...

I can just relate to the shit that people pursuing a Piscean have to go through... It can be maddening...

Bottom line if someone is interested in a Pisces person... Let them come to you...
April 28, 2020 at 05:51
(Pisces) fishscales » ram_goat
"Said the Aquarius to the Scorpio..."

Scorpionic heads explode to this song...

https://youtu.be/F2AitTPI5U0
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April 28, 2020 at 06:02
(Aries) ram_goat » fishscales
my head is exploding.. omg so much 80´s/early 90´s schlock in there..

mcauley! george from cheers..
production values from the director of Home Improvement.. (always despised that show.. wasn´t even funny..)

it´s like a time bomb from 1989 arrived in a time machine designed to look like a planet hollywood restaraunt and levelled the place.. nver was a big MJ fan.. nuke it all from orbit, I say..
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April 28, 2020 at 06:11
(Pisces) fishscales » ram_goat
Lol...I more meant the lack of distinction between black and white, thinking wise... Not really what the Scorp mind is built for...

Maybe they are all Siths... Absolutes...
April 28, 2020 at 08:43
(Capricorn) Luna Alba » fishscales
Too bad I did not knew this for sure 2 yrs ago...it was not meant to be.

Ty for the insight, Fish!
April 28, 2020 at 13:58
(Virgo) rohini moon » rohini moon
Well...
Maybe I got ahead of myself...

In my d9 chart, I have 2 major planets in Pisces....so there is always that.
April 28, 2020 at 14:25
(Pisces) fishscales » rohini moon
"Instead of being firm and honest in their dealings to avoid confrontations - something they don´t do well with, they will most likely just avoid avoid avoid.."

This is DEFINITELY a major cause of Piscean problems, and problems for those who deal with them...

There is very often an element in the Piscean psyche of "this will fix itself"... Then they walk away, and it doesn´t get fixed... The real cause is just avoiding/escaping from the issue... Hence the Pisces rep for alcohol and drug use... escapism at its "finest"...

I tend to seesaw with the conflict thing...sometimes I avoid it, but sometimes my Mercury in Aries and Uranus conjunct ascendant actually pursues it...

In the past 10 years or so I´ve made a serious effort to address problems when they occur, in real time...I do this in large part to handle my Mars in Taurus in a healthy way...it too doesn´t like to rock the boat.. But if it gets suppressed too long, what eventually comes out sinks the boat... :61:

But yes... The problems of Pisces and the problems that they cause others would definitely be alleviated by tackling difficult issues, including those that require confrontation, head on, as they occur...it can be difficult and unnatural to them, but it can be mastered...

Same goes for Libra...
April 28, 2020 at 14:26
(Sagittarius) Sus » fishscales
"Them pursuing you means they´ve actually made their mind up about something and committed to it, which is a step in the right direction for Pisces..."

That´s what I bear in mind when I want to kill that fish!! I keep telling myself that if he comes after me is because he cares...in his awkward way
April 28, 2020 at 14:54
(Pisces) fishscales » Sus
"I keep telling myself that if he comes after me is because he cares...in his akward way"

Yeah Pisces may not always win when it comes to style points...

Of course, not in my case with a dominant Venus...:61:

In my younger years, I could seduce girls without even realizing was doing it, or trying to do it...

Definitely not as cool as it may sound to some younger guys.. Can lead to a world of other problems...especially with an 8th house Mars lurking in the background looking to satisfy its... uh...drive...at all times...

The Venus/Neptune one-two punch is definitely something to be watched out for... And it´s hard to see it coming because it´s so subtle. I´m not saying it´s always intended to deceive by any means... It can be a beautiful combo... Either way, it just has the tendency to kind of "come out" and make its presence known... And not in the most conscious or controlled of ways, since Neptune is involved..

I would have much rather been one of those awkward types of Pisces in matters of romance...
April 28, 2020 at 15:03
(Capricorn) Luna Alba » fishscales
In my younger years, I could seduce girls without even realizing was doing it, or trying to do it... 


And what was it that you didn´t like about that?
Refusing them? Being with them for a while and then trying to swin away when it was obvious they had feelings for you? ?
April 28, 2020 at 15:17
(Gemini) scormini
Because as a scorpio you see through their bullshit and pisces are known for being avoiders of thruth sometimes, so as it concerns their daughters they act like a negative pisces and distant themselves from you, as they don´t have any logical explanation for that. That´s a bad side of pisces... And pisces have nothing to hide to scorpios, so they run away
Concerning pisces men, they tend to be evasive too, and don´t forget they are mutable, so unless they are really interested in you and nothing/no one else, they will get distracted with other girls/things. You won´t experience this as much with a cancer, I think. Or even better earth sings
April 28, 2020 at 15:29
(Taurus) Morena_Lu » Luna Alba
nd what was it that you didn´t like about that?
Refusing them? Being with them for a while and then trying to swin away when it was obvious they had feelings for you? ?


He didn´t want to hurt them because he is emotional :182:..but I guess :155: in the 8th house didn´t care for that. It is not easy to say no to the 8th house desires. :4:
Thanks God I am earth sign..I already have enough of Pisces in my chart.:))
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