Which love life would be better for me?

March 28, 2020 at 19:56 (UT/GMT)
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Which love life would be better for me?
Good evening, this year I suspected myself having a big attraction to trans women. I have never felt this in a past. On the other hand, I don´t identify myself as a gay or as a bisexual. I still feeling straight, only seeking "an alternative woman´´ who would be less demanding and more large-minded like me. I am one of these men who are very tolerant, but if a rejection tends to repeat, then turning on to looking for "at some point opposite ways". What can I say? I love women - not men, but now I am considering who would be a better choice for me in order to have happy love life: "a non-traditional trans women or a traditional Cis women?´´ I am starting to think like that: " I don´t have a stable job, still living with parents, I don´t drive a car, I can´t fight - looks like me is very anti-masculine and these "natural" girls reject me due to my weaker points when they tend do not notice my stronger points which I have also. "I am looking for a caring man´´ - this sounds like a knife to my spine. And I am trying to escape from these "duties" reaching for girls who are girls but probably less materialistic, having a bigger sex-drive but still submissive. I am posting my Natal Chart and wanna ask one simple question; "According to my Natal Chart (or maybe not only), is it better for me to make love (strictly non-platonic) relationships with "natural Cis´´ or with tranny girls? Will be waiting some insights.
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March 28, 2020 at 20:35
(Cancer) ZynCitrus
You have absolute right to search for whatever you like. Everyone has :)

But just to recapture your demand- you are looking for someone who is on his own, but stronger than you better than you, not needing you, AND SUBMISSIVE. Now I´m talking just common sense - yes, possible to find someone submissive in sex. Many successful men like dominating woman when naked, the rest of the time you can forget it, other ways they would not be successful ;)

But you are talking about being in love with someone like that... and that kind of human psychology does not exit. we are competitive by nature...if there is no some kind of exchange you are not interested. If that person wants something you have, go for it. But you have starting point, no job living with parent blah blah... so here I only read low self-esteem. So the bigger question here is, how do you plan to attract someone that all-together with that attitude?

Go sell yourself in a better way ;) You should be with whoever you feel best with...

On astrology side, I don´t see anything in your chart that speaks wanting "alternative girl", your Venus is actually in very conservative sign conj Sun, love and friendship aspect, mutual understanding.
Your moon, choice of your wife is in Libra, balanced, fair, but is in square to Uranus - unstable feelings, nervousness, irrational, quick change of mind....
March 28, 2020 at 21:34
(Taurus) Astro-Seek.com » ZynCitrus
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I wanna say that I prefer dominating fem-dom Cis girls and submissive-bottom trans girls (this is a slang related to particular sex). Moon square Uranus and probably Pluto in 12th house/Scorpio makes me perhaps too sexed-up and losing a power (paradoxically)
March 28, 2020 at 21:53
(Cancer) ZynCitrus » Islas
ok. so you are talking purely about sex.
It was confusing from your second paragraph about relationship love and shit, which we clearly have different definitions...my bad :37:
Not Pluto in that way, it can give you obsession about sex, addiction, but more "twisted" or rather taboo sex themes can bring Chiron in 8th. It´s common for porn stars, sex-slaves, prostitutes and so on with Chiron in 8th.

I´m more interested why you first wrote " a big attraction to trans women. I have never felt this in a past. " and than everything else asking on this topic.... why are you doubting yourself, like, there is something not fitting if you ask here...so that´s the problem you need to solve, not trans, or "regular" sorry, I´m a dummy for modern world :D
March 28, 2020 at 22:04
(Aries) ram_goat » Islas
I wanna say that I prefer dominating fem-dom Cis girls

Where has beep been hiding out lately?
March 28, 2020 at 22:11
(Cancer) ZynCitrus » ram_goat
I had to google CIS now... ok why people have need to rename something that has name already, male born, female born aka male, female...for fuck sake people..everything has to be fancy and exclusive and tropical and atypical ...that gives like importance or what?
March 28, 2020 at 22:15
(Taurus) Astro-Seek.com » ram_goat
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In facebook XD
March 28, 2020 at 22:27
(Taurus) Astro-Seek.com » ZynCitrus
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Yes, probably Chiron in Cancer/8th house. I am trying to figure out is my new passion a real or a delusion cos me is often hanging on escapism. I very appreciate easy-going and at some point kinky people, because it is more possible that they are single like me. I hate "very warm as only friends´´ conversations between man an a woman. It is like a trap for me. My Moon square my Chiron also. So 8th house in Cancer probably can stop my achievements and being a successful man. I have a high self esteem, I am proud of myself. But if you wanna create something you must prove it. I can not do this now. Only knowing that I deserve good things. I am very Pisces-minded person, indeed. Escape escape and escape. From what? Still now trying to figure out.
March 28, 2020 at 22:32
(Aries) ram_goat » ZynCitrus
yes, this pluto in scorpio generation has this need to express their individualism..

both in elevated ways and in debased ones. So self indulgent..

Look I can see the pluto aspect to the original question in this thread, but at the same time
we have a classic scorpio (mars sun, scorp ASC) with this fellow here, in as much as with his questions he "goes deep" into taboo regions of the psyche, but always makes the same scorpionic mistake that all pluto/scorpio influenced personalities make: In their grand rush for the deeper truth, they are blinded.. in their blindness they rush past the mundane, ordinary truths of sexuality, male/female biological reality & polarities of the psyche, the grand revealed truths of the ages about the nature of male & female, they rush past all these things with little or no examination, and straight into the heart of "darkest Africa" in the human psyche where all the freakish and perverse and degenerate aspects of their own individual psyche, as well as the collective human psyche, lie. A direct flight to that territory. How about we put the train in reverse, back up a bit, and delve somewhat into the virtues of sex & human relationships, and save exploring one single individual´s dark kinks for a more advanced chapter, after we have dwelt a bit on the fundamentals. Often the answers we seek are to be found in the mundane..

You once said to me, something about following social conventions etc.. that little comment to me made a deep impression. There was a lot of wisdom in it. Do you remember the remark? It was some time ago, in private. I was not sure how to respond to this guy, but I was thinking of your own once-upon-a-time erstwhile comments to me on a subject totally unrelated to this post, made a long time ago.. under different skies..

Anyway, I was not going to say anything in this thread, but you chiming in on it helped me to form my thoughts. A small catalyst, for this fellow late-degree aries fellow.. but one who needs to maybe get some clarity about virtues and relationships, not just jump to the hotter, scorpionic sex laden aspects of them.

To the original poster-- let´s suppose you find your ideal woman.. tranny or otherwise..

what then? what happens next, the day after you have sex and you satiate your lusts?

where does that leave you? It´s a visualization exercise, as relevant as any sexual fantasy.

What is your aim? Where does this all lead for you? For the other person? What do you offer? What do they take from you? It is clear what you take from them. What is it you give in return? Or what is it you believe you give in exchange?
March 28, 2020 at 22:38
(Aries) ram_goat » Islas
There is no chart indication for the question you ask.

The answers in this case are to be found in examining the individual psyche..

My instinct tells me you have made a mad rush forward

rashly..

and in the process, you skipped a few essential steps in the process of self examination.

You need to put the process in reverse and go back a few steps, and rexamine a
few things you probably missed.

Once you have done that successfully, there will be no need for you to ask the
questions you are asking here now.
March 28, 2020 at 22:39
(Taurus) Astro-Seek.com » ZynCitrus
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My Scorpio energies still are stronger than my Aries side. That´s why I often lose as a warrior and then going to solve my problems using my sexual appetite looking something bizarre in order to fight with traditions. I can change very quickly but there are some things where I am very fixed on. For example I am talking with a girl, she is so friendly and I am falling in love with her. We are talking closely and closely, but out of the blue, I find that she is married/has a boyfriend. Than I became very passive-aggressive, escape from her and start to hold on "lower´ but easy-going girls; hookers, whores, trans-girls. This is like a manifestation against my failure which tends to repeat and repeat. Several situations in my life I am under the influence. It is mostly Scorpionic - Piscean related things I guess
March 28, 2020 at 22:43
(Aries) ram_goat » Islas
aah now we are getting closer to the essential issues..

continue reversing the train...

And appreciate Mrav... an unusually well grounded Cancer..

There is a double challenge present in Aries/Scorpio combinations..

Aries is rashness in thought and in deeds

Scorpio is rashness in emotional things.. even to the point of blindness

thoughts can change, and deeds can be atoned for more readily, and more visibly,
and concretely and more easily than emotional crimes or errors.
March 28, 2020 at 22:54
(Cancer) ZynCitrus » Islas
The thing you now describe is right on Chiron in Cancer in the 8th. (sco natural house). Tradition, wounds, taboo... follow that line and go back, way back....why...
I was not mentioning your Aries sun, because I think it´s not relevant here at all. Because Aries is a starter, fresh energy, quick, here and now, but it´s with Venus, someone similar, someone to share likes with, not damaged at all. Very good aspects. So don´t focus on being an Aries
March 28, 2020 at 23:33
(Taurus) Astro-Seek.com » ram_goat
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Thank you very much for some insights. Indeed every night I dream. And in my dreams I often see Water - seas, rivers, swimming pools, lakes and mostly of time I have noticed they are enough turbid. People are diving into this water, but me mostly of the time - suspending from this (Indeed I was drowning 2 times during my life in a reality). I dived few times and after that a dreaming ended. But mostly of time was in a fear to explore unknown (even having a wish to dive) - maybe this is my Librarian nature which is also strong (and even stronger) than Scorpionic features. I jump from a high buildings in my night dreams - from Air to Earth and then feel a deep relief. Looks like Air (Libra) suspends myself from too strong passions (Scorpio), but on the other hand, being an opposite sign of Aries, Libra is indecisive and not down to earth-related. Looks like Air-Water, Water-Air games. Sexed up mind vs over intelligence - here it is possible to hang on frictions even holding 41 percentage of Earth in my Chart. Despite this, I am not sure - there is a subconscious or maybe a conscious feeling to "kill myself in some ways" (when I totally can´t imagine myself making a suicide), to "punish myself´´, to "cursed myself´´ mostly in a sexual-related actions. To delve into my partners "deep hole´´ with no restrictions and leading for her being ´´small death´´. From where is this coming? Maybe from Past lives? Or probably even from my past in this lifetime...Otherwise, I am not a man of quick actions, I prefer dreaming about my "big looses´´ in sexual games - that´s make me feeling very sexual satisfied a huge arousal. Will I bring this into reality? Only time knows. But it is needed to write so much more, cos it is not only about sexual things - it is about more aspects in a life (plenty of non-sexual traumas) which are the same important - and which are leading and bringing me to this research.
March 29, 2020 at 04:39
(Aries) ram_goat » Islas
Despite this, I am not sure - there is a subconscious or maybe a conscious feeling to "kill myself in some ways" (when I totally can´t imagine myself making a suicide), to "punish myself´´, to "cursed myself´´ mostly in a sexual-related actions.

Pluto governs taboo´s and compulsions. Pluto is also a planet/energy that demands action.
Often you are pushed by pluto or pluto transits into situations with two equally deplorable choices. But there is a hidden path in all of this too.

I once had dinner at a restaurant that had a magician who would go from table to table
performing magic tricks to entertain people at the table. When this guy came to the table I was at, I was sitting very close to where he was standing. He was setting up a card trick that involved having someone choose a card from a deck and he would "magically" select that card from the deck later. As part of the trick he arranged a few cards on the table, near him, and then used the rest of the deck to visually distract everyone viewing the trick, by having someone seated at the table select a card from his deck. I was curious and wanted to see if I could uncover the mechanics behind the magic trick. While the magician was distracted with diverting the attention of all the people seated at the table, I very stealthily reached over and removed one of the cards he had laid down on the table close to him. I was watching where the magician´s eyes were directed, and I tried to move the card at a moment when I thought he would not see me doing this, but I think he caught something out of the corner of his eye and quickly turned his eye to me, then returned to his performance, but he had to restart the trick, from the beginning. By moving his cards, I had forced him to "reset" the trick.. I had thrown the thing off balance, and it was not going to work the way the magician intended when he set the magic trick up.

Similarly, with pluto, when you are presented with two awful choices in any situation, you always retain the option of "throwing" the trick.. Then pluto must renegotiate with you, starting over again. I think pluto often adds pressure, fear, compulsion and deplorable choices precisely to awaken this realization in us, but most simply succumb to the pressure and the negativity and degradation implicit in the choices pluto chooses to present you with, never realizing or acting (remeber, pluto demands action...) upon that third hidden choice present in all things.

I would advise you, as I said before, to back things up a bit, and reconsider what are your actual choices present in situations, and perhaps consider some other more nuanced or advanced dimensions and options. You really must wrangle with and master and gain an understanding of pluto and his nature before you can integrate the influences of other planets in your chart or transits.

Ususally there is an element of death followed by rebirth in these "third path" choices, while choosing what pluto offers you, like some lazy shopper, usually involves elements of degradation and reverse evolution.


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