Why i´am stuck on this guy? - Discussions, questions

Astro-Seek.com System message: Post has been written by user AdeptMagician, who already deleted profile on this website:
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You´re a Taurus and Taureans can be possessive. And your north node is exactly on his Juno, signifying an obsession from your part, freneticly thinking of him as your "perfect wife".

And then you´ve got Venus in opposition to his pluto as well as his Saturn in opposition to your Venus, signifying obsessive love as well as long lasting love respectively.

MaryJos » AdeptMagician Hi there ? tanks!

"You´re a Taurus and Taureans can be possessive. And your north node is exactly on his Juno, signifying an obsession from your part, freneticly thinking of him as your "perfect wife"."

I am taurus sun it´s true but the earthy qualities on me are diminished by my gemini signature kind of vibe! So when I "decide" (taurus ting) to let go...I do it!

"And then you´ve got Venus in opposition to his pluto as well as his Saturn in opposition to your Venus, signifying obsessive love as well as long lasting love respectively."

In the Pulto-Venus opposition normally is Venus who is most affected by the pull? And he has the aspect natal to...

Saturn-Venus opposition is in a double whammy... not good???? Or we must feel the same way?

(P.S. sorry for my English ?)

Astro-Seek.com » MaryJos System message: Post has been written by user AdeptMagician, who already deleted profile on this website:
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Hi there. I knew you´d disagree because you´re a taurus and tauruses are stubborn. ?

No matter what else is found in your chart, you´ll always be a taurus. There´s just no getting away from it. The sun signifies your primal nature and who you are beneath every other aspect. It is your soul (sol). Having said that though, of course not all tauruses are obsessive just because we are generally possessive.

You´ve also got Jupiter in your first house and if you know about the story of Jupiter and Juno being the King and Queen of heaven, perhaps you´ll also agree with me in that it might be dangerous having the north node conjunct his Juno at the same time as that. ?

Furthermore, I also just noticed that you´ve got a yod in your chart with your Venus being the activating factor and his pluto being the focal point of obsession. I think this pretty much says it all.

Astro-Seek.com » AdeptMagician System message: Post has been written by user AdeptMagician, who already deleted profile on this website:
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Or actually, it´s HIS Venus AND your descendant that are the activating point of the yod.

fishscales His Pluto is conjunct your ascendant, so yes, there are almost definitely obsessive/compulsive aspects to this relationship. I would expect this to be coming more from him, however. I speak from experience with this aspect, and it´s the first thing that jumped out at me when looking at this chart. I had a girlfriend who´s Pluto was conjunct my ASC. The relationship was clearly over, but she would not... maybe could not.. let go. Aside from obsessive qualities, the aspect can also cause a deep and intense physical attraction...which is always hard to break, and could compound the situation.

Getting past the Pluto thing, there are some good aspects in this synastry chart. (I really like that you included relevant asteroids into the synastry, btw.)

Mercury conjunct Venus is always good. Good commmunication can never be underestimated.

North Node conjunct Juno is an excellent aspect. I hate using the "m" word, but it does show up in the charts of alot of married couples. This doesn´t mean you guys are gonna marry eachother, but it is an indicator of a good relationship regardless.

Your Mercury conjunct his descendant is also good for communication, but Chiron is there too, which could be problematic.

Your moon is in his 7th house, which is positive, and it´s also conjunct his part of fortune...I´ve never seen that one before, but it doesn´t sound like a bad thing.

It would be easier to tell more with an aspect chart.

Can I ask why it´s an on/off thing?

Why do you cut communications with eachother? Do you mean entirely?

MaryJos » AdeptMagician Are you sure?

I tink the Yod pattern has his pluto as focal point to my Venus an Mercury no!?

MaryJos » AdeptMagician Ahaha we Taurus can not run from our qualities indeed!

"You´ve also got Jupiter in your first house and if you know about the story of Jupiter and Juno being the King and Queen of heaven, perhaps you´ll also agree with me in that it might be dangerous having the north node conjunct his Juno at the same time as that."

Why is that!?????
Because I can give to mitch... be take advantage of?

And his Pluto in that pattern... how you read it?

MaryJos » fishscales Hi DManos...

Almost all relationship i have been in had Pluto aspecting my ascendant... and I have pluto in my 1st conjunct my ascendant to. And this is tricky because almost all astrologers say that you must have personal planets aspecting this point.. to last and meaningfulness... so in all cases normally my guys do have to deal with my strong Pluto rigth?

And yes...

? my Venus conjunt His Mercury (and Sun) 5th to 4th overlay

? my mercury=chiron=sun/moon midpoint conjunct is DSC

? my DSC conjunct his Venus

? my Moon in his 7th conjunct his POF and I tink also is sun/moon midpoint... and my POF is ASC

MaryJos » fishscales "It would be easier to tell more with an aspect chart.

Can I ask why it´s an on/off thing?

Why do you cut communications with eachother? Do you mean entirely?"


I realy don´t not now why we stop to speak with each other.
It´s a realy higth sexual energy between us but also very kind of friend/siblings... normally we share every single thing about us (to mutch info sometimes) and we cut...

And when he decide to open the communication view again... I can not repress the wish to speak and meet him again...

I was counting that you could figure it out for me???

fishscales » MaryJos "And this is tricky because almost all astrologers say that you must have personal planets aspecting this point"

I don´t know about MUST. And it depends on the aspect. For example, I would rather have someone´s sun not aspect my ASC at all than square it. A positive aspect from a personal planet to the ASC is nice, but I would not consider it absolutely essential to a relationship.

"so in all cases normally my guys do have to deal with my strong Pluto rigth?"

If there is such an aspect to your ASC and Pluto, yes... But again, the aspect itself is important. I´d consider someone´s Venus trining your ASC and Pluto, for example, a good aspect in a synastry: a romance that is deep, intense, and passionate, but in a smooth, positive way. And a powerful, free flowing physical attraction as well, which is of course always good.



"? my DSC conjunct his Venus"

Yup, I somehow missed that one.

But you need to examine why those breaks in communication are happening to determine whether those positive aspects are ultimately worth discussing or not. The real life circumstances of the relationship need to be examined and understood before the astrology.

fishscales » MaryJos Unfortunately, I´m looking at this on a phone, and when I zoom in, I can´t make out the aspects, because they´re too blurry. (Computer AND tablet broke. )

But it´s just as well, because I think this problem goes beyond astrology.

"I realy don´t not now why we stop to speak with each other.
It´s a realy higth sexual energy between us but also very kind of friend/siblings... normally we share every single thing about us (to mutch info sometimes) and we cut..."

You need to figure out why this is happening. Not by looking at synastry charts, but by looking at yourself, him, and the relationship.

"And when he decide to open the communication view again... I can not repress the wish to speak and meet him again."

Why is he the one who decides when communication is going to begin again? Is he also the one that cuts it off? If not communicating is something you are both not in agreement about, you have a right to:

1. Know why communication is being cut off

2. Tell him how you feel about communication being cut off.

Maybe you are already doing these things, maybe not...I don´t know. Or maybe cutting off communication is something you mutually agree upon. If so, you need to ask yourself: even if cutting off communication is something you agree to, is it something that you WANT? Is it something you can accept? If not, you have some work to do deciding how to move forward.

You said something about "respecting" his wishes to not communicate in your original post.

You´ve got to have respect for what you want out of this relationship too, whether it´s romantic, just friendship, etc. Any kind of relationship is a two way street. When only one person is calling the shots, it´s not really a relationship, it´s a dictatorship.

"I was counting that you could figure it out for me???"

You seem like a sweet girl, and I´d like to help. I may be able to point out some astrological tidbits of information, or give you some advice, but you are the one living your reality. In the end, you are the only one who can really figure this out right?

MaryJos » fishscales Yes! All you said make sence and I told that to my self every day ☺
This to will pass!

MaryJos » fishscales Tell me something... about the ASC point. What you said is resonable ande in the case when a all the guy planets dosent aspect de female ASC.
What do you think?

fishscales » MaryJos "This too shall pass" is one of my favorite sayings in life.

Helps cultivate non-attachment to both the bad things and the good.

fishscales » MaryJos "Tell me something... about the ASC point. What you said is resonable ande in the case when a all the guy planets dosent aspect de female ASC.
What do you think?"

Not sure what you mean here. In my other post, I said that (in my opinion at least) it is not absolutely essential for one partner´s personal planets to aspect the other partner´s ASC to have a good relationship. It also doesn´t matter if the planet or ASC person is male or female, if that´s what you were asking.

MaryJos » fishscales Ahahhaj
My English sucks!
In this case is a guy but no its not important the gender. I mean in general.
It matters in your opinion if there are no aspects to the ASC like this one for ex.

fishscales » MaryJos No it doesn´t matter.

Astro-Seek.com System message: Post has been written by user Fishermansend, who already deleted profile on this website:
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Hi MaryJos,

is his birthtime accurate and his DC really exactly on your 8th house cusp ? True that you put your 8th house chiron and your 8th house moon on his DC and in his 7th house ?

And vice versa he his 11th house libra pluto on your AC and his opp. 5th house aries venus in your 7th house /DC?

Pluto in 11th house brings uranus/pluto meaning along and likes to step out and to step in / on/off - in love affairs not able to always stand in physical near. His neptune cusp your 3rd house likes to "disappear" and to take a time out, if discussions get to much and too concrete for him and he feels overwhelmed with his 2nd house neptune. His neptune is squared by your 8th house venus coming venus/pluto meaning along with.

Double venus pluto on AC is physical uncontrollable attraction isn´t always obsessive but a passionate and a longlasting special energy and can lead into a longlasting game both parts subconsciously like to play till it is
"thru".

fishscales Any update on the situation MaryJos?

MaryJos » Fishermansend Hei tanks for the review ?
And yes is birth time is accurate.
All your insigths are accurate too about the on/off situation mostly by gaps in timing due to professional or family situation.

And we do take time out from one another... like "yes I like you but go away so I can miss you"... stupid thing! ?? And normaly our discussion are more like agree to desagre. I do conform with some of his actions/statments even if it cut deeply inside I don´t now why!

But why you question the accuracy of his birth time?

"really exactly on your 8th house cusp ? True that you put your 8th house chiron and your 8th house moon on his DC and in his 7th house ?

And vice versa he his 11th house libra pluto on your AC and his opp. 5th house aries venus in your 7th house /DC?"

You make it sound like a sadic disaster! It´s realy that bad?

And I notice that my sun/moon midpoint is on his DSC... by declination my moon "conjunct" his DSC and his sun/moon midpoint is on/close to my Moon (squaring is sun and moon). Our 8th house rulers also conjunct... its relevant?????

MaryJos » fishscales Unfortunately no! We are in an off period... maybe definitely!

fishscales » MaryJos Well regardless of how it all ends up, here´s a good thing to keep in mind...

"These are the days that must happen to you." -- Walt Whitman

MaryJos » fishscales Indeed!
Even if those days go along with some tears.

fishscales » MaryJos Wise words, MaryJos.

Actually, more like a wise attitude. Even more important.

fishscales » fishscales We need to learn to accept what life is giving us...sometimes the lessons we need to learn come packaged in a box with really crappy wrapping paper