Karma

June 7, 2021 at 14:59 (UT/GMT)
(Virgo) Lor3112
Karma
Hi everyone, I got into reading charts around 6 months ago. I’ve come to the conclusion I have some seriously HEAVY karma to pay to many people in my life, which I am working on. But in one chart in particular, I’ve come across some asteroid conjunctions/trines/oppositions that I’m unsure of the overall meaning given they’re all in the same chart. Their Karma conjuncts my north node, their dejanira conjuncts my child, my dejanira conjuncts their vesta, their destinn conjuncts my amor/vesta/karma, which trines my union, their union is conjunct my destinn, which opposes my sun, and we have amor opposing mars DW, (one of which opposes his sun also. Now I know this is definitely heavy, but If anyone could point me in the right direction as to finding the meanings, and how the karma should be paid, I’d be very grateful, as the internet isn’t helping much! 😫

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June 7, 2021 at 15:07
(Pisces) fishscales
It´s been said...

"The lion of the law (karma) is fought with the scale. Do good deeds to pay your debts."

What can you do to help others you believe you have difficult karma with?

Astrologically, I´d consider someone´s karma conjunct your North node a very interesting, and possibly even a positive contact...something about the path you are supposed to be taking is tied in with their karma...

See above maybe?
June 7, 2021 at 15:16
(Virgo) Lor3112 » fishscales
Yes there’s definite karma. Their Pluto is conjunct my south node, my mars is conjunct their south node. It just seems to be a very heavy, tricky karma that I’m unsure how to handle. Thank you though, I will think on what you’ve said. 😊
June 7, 2021 at 15:47
(Sagittarius) goldenlion32
I´ve been observing these Karmic Readings on YT, and I just want to say, probably focus on the positive things you can do in your life and with others.

I think from what I´m observing is this is just sending negative energy out into the world with the younger generations instead of focusing on what you ca give to the world with your talents, gifts, knowledge, wisdom, and understanding. By serving others in a positive way without the negative karma of sending out negative energy, paybacks, getting even, or getting revenge, not having ill-intention, or ill-motivation is how you end that past life karma.

The highest vibration is love. And if you are learning to let go of the negatives, the hardship, the emotional and mental pain and liberating your mind spiritually then you are freeing yourself.

Step out of the box, don´t follow the trend, travel the road less traveled, and just because others may be focusing on the Negative energy, you´re the only one that can liberate yourself by focusing on yourself, getting out of those negative emotional patterns, mental patterns, and spiritual patterns.

It´s more about how you respond and reach your own self-mastery of life lessons rather then worrying about the synastry. Since your intuition really knows when to let go of dysfunctional relationships. You know when someone disrespects, treats you wrong, speaks to you negatively.
June 7, 2021 at 16:15
(Pisces) fishscales » goldenlion32
Preach it Goldie :4:

One thing I´ve learned about astrology on this site is that it really needs to be approached from the self first...self-mastery as you said...

The blame game...whether someone is blaming the other person, the planets, whatever...waste of time. (not saying the OP was doing this, she was simply pointing out what she thought were karmic configurations)

She also didn´t say she was looking to resolve this karma in a negative, destructive way...I think the point of both of our posts was to tell her to approach these karmic situations positively...even "negative", difficult karmic situations can be approached this way. I think this general, positive approach is more important than analyzing the meaning of all the aspects...although that is interesting, and could serve to point one in the right direction.

Another benefit of approaching whatever shitty karma you have positively is...you accumulate less karma. :4:

At any rate, the work starts with oneself.

I guess one of the observable astrological effects of working on oneself is that...the synastries are bound to get better.. :44:
June 7, 2021 at 16:29
(Sagittarius) goldenlion32 » fishscales
:61: Karma is karma.

The whole idea is to get off the karmic wheel of death and rebirth. Obviously, it goes back to my professor who told us the story of an old man sitting on the porch and had a dog that was so loyal to the owner it sat on a nail for the longest time year after year and moaned about it, until one day it decided to sit somewhere else by it´s owner. :61:
June 7, 2021 at 16:37
(Virgo) Lor3112 » goldenlion32
I absolutely agree with you. I’m definitely trying not to get bogged down in the negative side (althoughI do feel guilt, so I’m trying to work out the way forward with it, as I’m absolutely sure it’s my karma), and it’s been quite long winded. (Maybe that’s part of it, I’m quite mars oriented and impatient! 🤣)
I have learned a great deal from this connection, and I’m extremely grateful for it, I guess I’m ready to repay the favour. I just don’t know what that entails yet! 😅
June 7, 2021 at 16:44
(Virgo) Lor3112 » fishscales
Yeah I agree with this too. I blamed them for a long time! 🤣 once I started to understand myself more, and recognised past lives etc, I realised I’m definitely the problem, and simultaneously the solution. Some karmic situations I feel I’m managing/have managed well, others (this one especially), I feel I’m drowning in. But I accept it’s all happening for a reason, and has to be lived through. I’m just a little bit blind as to where I have to start looking. The asteroids are confusing to me, as they seem conflicting. But I’m not sure whether I’m reading them right! 🤣
June 7, 2021 at 16:49
(Sagittarius) goldenlion32 » Lor3112
I never know until I get there. :61:
June 7, 2021 at 20:23
(Pisces) fishscales » Lor3112
It sounds like you are on the right track...

Try not to suffer, or "drown" too much...

I don´t know the details of your situation...

But sometimes when dealing with difficult people, it´s good to keep in mind the Gandhi quote "no one can hurt me without my permission"...

You could probably add to that the spirit of his gesture of raising his hand in forgiveness to the person that shot him dead...

If something like that can be forgiven, by the person it´s happening to...imagine the power of forgiveness...I guess it´s about being in the right place inside...

Not sure any of this even pertains to your situation, but good stuff to keep in mind anyway I think...
June 8, 2021 at 21:56
(Sagittarius) goldenlion32
She has a nice story about karma. :61:
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June 11, 2021 at 06:47
(Aquarius) viv
hi Karma
I don´t use those particular asteroids so I cant really comment directly except to say I think basic synnastry is the first call. What are the aspects like now?

Second, Pluto on my SN might suggest someone who is powerfully activating my past life gifts and my Mars on their SN might suggest I was aggressive toward them but it might also mean I´m bringing in lots of energy, for healing, for a new initiative, for a new take on something we have been working on for many cycles.

I don´t take the idea of karma deterministically. Whatever we once were to each other, here now is the chance to create something new out of our meeting.

I just looked at your chart..so there´s a Pluto Venus connection in your seventh? That could be quite a compelling attraction...and his SN falls in your 10th ...which means his NN will be in your home base. Its sounding like a love relationship!
best

Best
June 11, 2021 at 21:57
(Virgo) Lor3112 » fishscales
Yes that makes a a lot of sense. The forgiveness side I’m doing ok with, but the trust is more difficult. Theres something her that needs to play out, I’m sure I created it myself, so I guess I just have to flow with it and attempt to control my own emotions. Thank you.
June 11, 2021 at 22:19
(Virgo) Lor3112 » viv
Thankyou for your comments.
We have a lot of red! 😅 mars square mars, my mars squares his Saturn, my Saturn opposes his venus, my sun squares his moon, etc. We have a few nice ones, like Jupiter conjunct venus, venus sextile Neptune etc, but most of it is intense. Compelling is definitely a key word. 🤣 His moon conjuncts my Saturn, his Pluto conjuncts my venus. We do have a lot of asteroid involvement which is why I’m trying to delve in deeper. My Juno conjunct his moon, his Juno conjunct my MC and Neptune, Eros trine Eros (his sits on my DSC), his psyche conjunct my sun, moon, mercury, my Ceres conjunct his Saturn/mars. Chiron involvement. It’s a lot. Now all the other asteroids (that I know very little about) has blown my mind. 🤣
Our progressed chart is slightly better, I can’t remember details, but I know it had a few trines (venus venus, his moon trine my moon and neptune), my sun is conjunct his Saturn, his mars is conjunct my Pluto and mercury. Our draconic to natal is very blue, but quite a few oppositions in draconic-draconic. We do have sun conjunct moon in that too.
Yes I felt that way the second I met him, I was convinced he was ‘the one’ so to speak, but 5 1/2 years later I’m recognising it has a much bigger Purpose. So I’m no longer trying to bury it. Your Pluto/SN comment is very interesting. He did actually trigger my spiritual awakening 2 years ago through heartbreak. As for my mars on his SN, I do believe I was aggressive prior to this life. (Some of which I definitely carried over, and he triggers wounds in me like no one else, so I’m really trying to take the opportunities he gives me to heal). He’s bringing the Karma. 😏
I just have no idea where it will end up! 😅


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