
Astro-Seek.com Seek and meet people born on the same date as you ...
SYNASTRY/DOOMED RELATIONSHIPS - Discussions, questions
SYNASTRY/DOOMED RELATIONSHIPS
February 26, 2021 at 13:15 (UT/GMT)

SYNASTRY/DOOMED RELATIONSHIPS
Hello! I´m Kim and new to the forum! I´ve recently become very interested in natal and synastry aspects. Synastry more-so because I just went through a soul shattering breakup that ended exactly the way synastry said it would! 
I know most will say that it doesn´t always happen that way, but I´d like to get others opinions on this. Have your past relationships succumbed to issues spelled out in your synastry charts? Have you ever had a long lasting, fulfilling relationship with someone you had bad synastry with?
My ex and I had a LOT of Saturn Venus Square Saturn/Sun Conjunct Satrun/Venus Conjunct Saturn....etc
My Venus conjuncted his Neptune. I held him as ideal and we felt we were soulmates. We walked away from our (miserable) marriages to be together and planned a life together, but he suddenly abandoned the relationship with no real explanation,....just like Venus conjunct Neptune implied. We also have Sun square Uranus which means a relationship will start with a bang and end just as suddenly, and abruptly...exactly like ours did
My question is, are there aspects that make a relationship almost impossible to work? Were we doomed?

I know most will say that it doesn´t always happen that way, but I´d like to get others opinions on this. Have your past relationships succumbed to issues spelled out in your synastry charts? Have you ever had a long lasting, fulfilling relationship with someone you had bad synastry with?
My ex and I had a LOT of Saturn Venus Square Saturn/Sun Conjunct Satrun/Venus Conjunct Saturn....etc
My Venus conjuncted his Neptune. I held him as ideal and we felt we were soulmates. We walked away from our (miserable) marriages to be together and planned a life together, but he suddenly abandoned the relationship with no real explanation,....just like Venus conjunct Neptune implied. We also have Sun square Uranus which means a relationship will start with a bang and end just as suddenly, and abruptly...exactly like ours did


Posts in topic
Page:
1 2

February 26, 2021 at 14:23

=====
Hi dear!
For a working or not working relationship the final say has the composite chart.
The composite charts of broken relationship i have seen so far have hard Uranus aspects in it.
What does the composite say in your case have you checked it?

February 26, 2021 at 17:05

Hey Lady! Thanks for responding :-)
I put the composites below. I don´t know if we had any in composite but we had Uranus aspects in synastry. I´m still new to this so I´m trying to learn how to read and understand everything

Sun
Conjunction
Venus
0°27’
Sun
Conjunction
Mars
3°25’
Sun
Conjunction
Jupiter
0°15’
Sun
Conjunction
Saturn
0°57’
Moon
Trine
Mercury
2°06’
Moon
Sextile
Uranus
1°12’
Moon
Square
Pluto
1°51’
Mercury
Sextile
Uranus
0°54’
Mercury
Square
Neptune
4°52’
Venus
Conjunction
Mars
3°53’
Venus
Conjunction
Jupiter
0°12’
Venus
Conjunction
Saturn
0°29’
Mars
Conjunction
Jupiter
3°41’
Mars
Conjunction
Saturn
4°23’
Jupiter
Conjunction
Saturn
0°42’
Neptune
Sextile
Pluto
0°54’
_____________________________________________________________________
Other aspects:
Ascendant
Opposition
Node
3°51’
Ascendant
Conjunction
S.Node
3°51’
Ascendant
Square
Lilith
1°41’
MC
Square
Node
2°15’
MC
Square
S.Node
2°15’
MC
Conjunction
Lilith
4°25’
Node
Sextile
Sun
2°29’
Node
Sextile
Venus
2°01’
Node
Sextile
Jupiter
2°14’
Node
Sextile
Saturn
1°32’
Node
Square
Lilith
2°09’
S.Node
Trine
Sun
2°29’
S.Node
Trine
Venus
2°01’
S.Node
Trine
Jupiter
2°14’
S.Node
Trine
Saturn
1°32’
S.Node
Square
Lilith
2°09’
Chiron
Trine
Moon
4°32’



February 26, 2021 at 19:10

=====
That looks like an intense involvment.
8th House themed relationship all about transformation.
The composite looks pretty good to me. Hmmm..i like the Moon Square Pluto intensity and jealousy.
Mercury Square Neptune there is the danger of unclear communication in the relationship, in the worst case lies and deception.
Please keep in my that i am still learning it is only two years ago that i discovered astrology.

February 27, 2021 at 00:53

Stellium in Libra is nice enough but the fact that it´s sitting with Jupiter and in the 9th house requires a lot of freedom, that the Moon/Pluto/Saturn can struggle with to provide.

February 27, 2021 at 09:07

Thanks for your feedback girl

It was VERY intense and he was jealous and possessive. Definitely seemed like it was meant to be and the feelings were mutual but in the end he just walked away. Broke things off over text after almost 4 years and abandoned me. Really fucked me up but I blame the Venus conjunct Neptune. From everything I´ve read, Neptune usually abandons Venus.

February 27, 2021 at 09:13

Thanks for your input. I wonder if the lying/deception you and Amananda are seeing is due to the fact that both he and I were (unhappily) married and this relationship started as an affair.
We both divorced our spouses to be together. Due to that, I know the pain I´m feeling is karma as well. We got swept away in each other, we couldn´t fight what we are feeling. He had children who totally stopped speaking to him...so yeah, a lot of family problems and obligations that served as obstacles as us too.
In reality, it was pretty much impossible for us to be together forever but at the time, we weren´t seeing things realistically. Lost in a fantasy and I guess he woke up sooner than I did and he just walked away. Most of my pain is due to how abruptly and easily he ended things and just didn´t look back. We had just returned from Cancun and he decided he didn´t want the relationship and dumped me over facebook messenger


February 27, 2021 at 09:30

When I saw the composite chart some of the first words I thought of were "family drama" because I often see with Saturn and Pluto square the composite Moon can bring some kind of family crisis. The family of the people don´t support this couple, or it creates drama and difficulty with family, that´s one way it manifests. Or they can´t have children, sometimes it´s that. Either way it brings a big challenge to the emotional support and needs being met.
Neptune square Mercury in the 8th could account for the secrecy that was involved, sure.
I don´t know when this breakup happened but it´s interesting to note that currently there are quite harsh transits to the composite chart.. Saturn on the nodes (destiny of the chart) plus nearing to cross the ascendant. Pluto squaring the composite Moon and setting off those squares and also Neptune square Neptune. I´ve seen before especially when Saturn crosses the composite angles it can end the relationship or put it through a serious "test" which Saturn likes to do.


February 27, 2021 at 09:32

=====
Is this Davison?
Can you post Davison composite?
It shows the dynamics of relationship way better.


February 27, 2021 at 09:43

Yeah, he and I both work overseas, so that´s where it started. I´m guessing the purpose of the relationship was to get us out of our marriages and unto a different path. The breakup happened in Oct and we don´t really communicate now. I was hoping time would change things, but he´s still very decided on the ending and I´m striving to move on. But I´m learning to do so without closure. He just shut himself off and turned cold but that was probably the best way as I would´ve kept holding on.
I don´t think I was seeing him clearly. The man who wrote me love letters and sent me flowers all the time, called me his "angel" and his best friend, brought me home to his mother and planned a life with me....could´ve never just abandoned me the way he did...he also did it at a time I was suffering depression from my brother dying in July and losing my job. It´s like, everything revolved around him and I was ALWAYS there and stressed out when he had problems with his kids and his ex, but the minute I started having a tough time, he checked out.

February 27, 2021 at 09:46



February 27, 2021 at 09:53

I think this is the Davidson:
Sun
Conjunction
Venus
2°13’
Sun
Conjunction
Mars
0°50’
Sun
Opposition
Jupiter
3°51’
Sun
Opposition
Saturn
2°39’
Moon
Square
Pluto
4°25’
Venus
Conjunction
Mars
3°04’
Venus
Opposition
Jupiter
1°37’
Venus
Opposition
Saturn
0°25’
Mars
Opposition
Jupiter
4°42’
Mars
Opposition
Saturn
3°30’
Jupiter
Conjunction
Saturn
1°11’
Neptune
Sextile
Pluto
1°29’
Other aspects:
Ascendant
Trine
Neptune
3°42’
Ascendant
Sextile
Pluto
2°12’
MC
Square
Node
2°28’
MC
Square
S.Node
2°28’
MC
Opposition
Lilith
0°18’
Node
Trine
Sun
1°01’
Node
Trine
Venus
1°11’
Node
Trine
Mars
1°52’
Node
Sextile
Saturn
1°37’
Node
Square
Lilith
2°10’
S.Node
Sextile
Sun
1°01’
S.Node
Sextile
Venus
1°11’
S.Node
Sextile
Mars
1°52’
S.Node
Trine
Jupiter
2°49’
S.Node
Trine
Saturn
1°37’
S.Node
Square
Lilith
2°10’
Lilith
Trine
Mercury
4°42’
Chiron
Trine
Moon
3°28’
Chiron
Sextile
Mercury
0°42’


February 27, 2021 at 10:03

I see the 9th house/Jupiter influence then was about meeting abroad and how this relationship caused a liberation of sorts. Jupiter and Venus in Libra does also show grand romantic gestures. But still the 9th house stellium is more fun high energy and doesn´t handle well the heavy energies involved with the Moon. The lack of emotional support becomes more obvious when the going gets tough. As hard as it is now, maybe it was for the best.

February 27, 2021 at 10:24

He essentially came back overseas to escape. He hit me up and asked me to get him a job over there. We had messed around in 2013-15, he left and went back home, so we just went back to our lives and stayed in touch. This time when we reunited....we fell in love INSTANTLY.
Funny how you mention the 9th house. I´ve posted his chart and I´m pretty sure his Venus is in his 9th house. He also has Uranus aspects and I believe Venus Square Pluto natally. Do you guys think those natal aspects he has contributed to how he was able to so easily just ditch the relationship the way he did?
Planet
Sun
Opposition
Moon
3°37’
Separating
Sun
Conjunction
Mercury
0°04’
Applying
Sun
Sextile
Mars
5°08’
Separating
Moon
Opposition
Mercury
3°41’
Separating
Moon
Trine
Mars
8°45’
Separating
Venus
Sextile
Jupiter
0°38’
Separating
Venus
Trine
Uranus
4°17’
Applying
Venus
Square
Pluto
2°22’
Applying
Jupiter
Square
Neptune
3°01’
Applying
Neptune
Sextile
Pluto
0°01’
Applying
Other aspects:
Object
Aspect
Planet
Orb
Aspect
Ascendant
Sextile
Sun
2°13’
Applying
Ascendant
Trine
Moon
5°50’
Applying
Ascendant
Sextile
Mercury
2°08’
Applying
Ascendant
Conjunction
Mars
2°54’
Separating
Node
Square
Uranus
2°32’
Separating
Node
Trine
Neptune
0°38’
Separating
Node
Sextile
Pluto
0°37’
Separating
Node
Sextile
Lilith
3°19’
Applying
Node
Square
Chiron
0°59’
Applying
Lilith
Square
Venus
1°34’
Separating
Lilith
Sextile
Neptune
3°57’
Applying
Lilith
Conjunction
Pluto
3°56’
Applying
Chiron
Sextile
Venus
0°44’
Applying
Chiron
Trine
Jupiter
1°23’
Applying
Chiron
Opposition
Uranus
3°32’
Separating


February 27, 2021 at 10:39

=====
What an ass. Your better off without him. Sorry, some unastrological Input.
Venus Uranus aspects hard ones natally the need of excitment in intimate.
Venus Square Pluto ..tough one.. manipulative love games. I once knew a men who had this placement. We we´re not dating but we where in the get to know stage, he ghosted me out of nowhere.

February 27, 2021 at 10:48




February 27, 2021 at 16:03

=====
Hi there!Hmmmmm
This is very challenging composite with that eye poking opposition

Aries Mars-Venus-Sun gives very great amount of passion and creative energy ant it represents the purpose of this relationship at the same time, so I could say that sexual attraction just overtook you both entirely.
On the other side, conjuction of retrograde Jupiter and Saturn in Libra is very, very restrictive and frustrating aspect letting you want to fly, enjoy life together and wanting to trust each and than, soon after, it punches you so hard to the ground (Saturn). Because of this "retro" element this pattern is repeating over and over again and being in opposition to that passionate (Sun-Mars-Venus) trio it is making your life living hell. Oppositions are great when you overcome them since they give extreme stability, but very hard to manage.
It will be a lot easier if you´d have any better aspect between Sun and Moon to connect you emotionally, but this way all you actuality have is that suffer and drama and little bit of romance thanx to that sextile between Pisces Mercury and Capricorn Moon.
hard one indeed


February 27, 2021 at 16:50

The Matks Chart might be better for that ... http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/m… ... although it has not been around long enough for its validity to have been adequately tested yet.
To calculate it ... you make a Davison Chart for personA and personB. ... Then, make another Davison Chart from that A+B Davison and the natal chart of either personA or personB.
Bob Marks (the creator of the Marks Chart) is now deceased, but he asserted that the Marks Chart indicates how personA/personB FEELS about the A+B relationship.
So ... draw the Marks Chart for the Davison (for you+him) and HIS natal chart, to see what HIS issue with your relationship might have been.

February 27, 2021 at 17:06


February 27, 2021 at 17:08

I will try to make the charts and see if I get any clarity. Thanks for stopping by and giving input



February 27, 2021 at 17:44

=====
Wow I like this, I think I´ll try it too

I used to make synastries: Davison-PersonA and Davison-PersonB to see how relationship influence A and B but never this kind of comapartion...

February 27, 2021 at 19:09

February 27, 2021 at 19:13


March 2, 2021 at 14:24

March 2, 2021 at 17:06


March 4, 2021 at 13:04

On top of that my Venus was in his 12 house, which was truly probematic and it doomed this relationship, it was almost as he couldnt feel my love, couldnt see my intentions and effort to support him, It was also secretive, he didnt want to cause drama in the family so our relationship was private, it felt almost like an affair... Later it turned out hes still one leg in his past and cant get over the breakup of his family, its been a year since our breakup and I still love him, and he is still stuck in his heartbreak and not ready to start anything new.
We maintained a friendship but it was very very rocky and it turned my life into a rollercoaster that past year.

Login
Register »
© 2022 Astro-Seek.com
Sun |
Moon |
Synastry Chart |
Transit Chart |
Dominant Planet |
Name Numerology |
Life Path |
Chinese Horoscope |
Celtic Sign |
Composite |
Vedic |
VOC Moon |
Beginner's Guide |
Venus Cycle |
Sidereal Vedic Chart | Nakshatra Calculator | Best Fertility Days Calculator | Solar Return | Rectification | Full Moon July, August | Astro Calendar | Ephemeris | Astrotwins | Name Calculator | Weather Forecasting |
Midpoint Calculator | House Systems | Solar Arc | Zodiac Symbols | Zodiac Signs Dates | Mercury Retrograde | Venus | Electional | Eclipses | Gardening | Sabian Symbols | Big Three |
Daily Love Horoscope | Tarot Astrology | Planetary Overview | Chart Interpretations | Natal Aspects | Synastry Aspects | Transit Aspects | Fixed Stars | Sinastria | Carta Natal | Horóscopos gratuitos |
Sidereal Vedic Chart | Nakshatra Calculator | Best Fertility Days Calculator | Solar Return | Rectification | Full Moon July, August | Astro Calendar | Ephemeris | Astrotwins | Name Calculator | Weather Forecasting |
Midpoint Calculator | House Systems | Solar Arc | Zodiac Symbols | Zodiac Signs Dates | Mercury Retrograde | Venus | Electional | Eclipses | Gardening | Sabian Symbols | Big Three |
Daily Love Horoscope | Tarot Astrology | Planetary Overview | Chart Interpretations | Natal Aspects | Synastry Aspects | Transit Aspects | Fixed Stars | Sinastria | Carta Natal | Horóscopos gratuitos |