Bad luck with relationships- chart indicators - Discussions, questions

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Hello, Anni, the thing is that you have more than three retrograde planets which prevents you or make everything as twice as difficult to get to a certain wanted outcome, because it seems you decided to honor/resolve many debts in this lifetime, but good news - when Jupiter will be placed in Aries/Taurus (more likely in 2022-2023) you´ll have the chance to meet someone serious who could offer you what you want. So hang in there

Anna239 » bloovanity Yes I have heard that about retrograde... But then also that because it is such a inward process and experience that we gradually bring out deeper strengths and ideas that are perhaps hidden but may materialise into something worthwhile. Life is a serious thing and a easy thing at the same time after all, we can´t expect something from nothing. Although with my relationships at least I might hope to gain at least something more for all my efforts, so thanks for the news if it is true, I will try to believe it!

nutelina You are 27. And look what a mess the world is in!

Don´t worry, you make more sense than many!

LotusStar Usually seen with challenging aspects to Venus and ruler of 7th. I´ve heard in Vedic that Jupiter placement is more what to pay attention to, for women.

I don´t think having your 7th house ruler in the 12th house and squaring Venus helps, can bring either impossible feeling situations, or they have something you want but lack something else you need. Because there is Virgo, maybe be careful of not having impossibly high standards or being too critical/picky either.

I also note your Venus is conjunct the south node... I have this too and personally very difficult placement.. South node kind of denies Venus satisfaction. Need a soulful connection as well as intellectual stimulation for your kind of chart.

I also agree with SilverStar, it´s not easy now for anyone these days, in general, if you want something real. Nevertheless don´t give up. If someone as shit a chart as mine could have long term relationships, I think there´s hope for everyone.

Anna239 » LotusStar The weird thing is that in some ways I think that I am picky and in others I´m not.. when I was younger I had a relationship that was going nowhere and I was just glad to be "connecting" to who I saw as a very nice individual as I hadn´t connected on any *cough*deeper* level with people too much. Then I met someone with whom I suppose it was as you say "had something I wanted, but lacked something important"... sigh. Yet what he had seemed different and very genuine and to met my "objective standards", which also I don´t think are ridiculously high. So I was for a short time pretty well happy enough. However now I am getting older and sick of fake facades of depth and wanting to only develop more as an individual I feel simply that I need someone that is very similar to myself on attitudes etc most probably

Zephyrin Chiron in 11th house in Leo squares Saturn in 5th. Leo partially concerns love relationships and here it brings relationship issues. Retrograde Saturn in 5th shows your introverted nature when it comes to love. Libra Jupiter square Chiron brings harm from unreliable, egoistical and unsteady partners.

"And the people I have met/dated were complete commitment-phobes as in they acted like they either wanted a relationship or to just date but then backed the hell away without sufficient explanations"

I don´t want to blame your 12th house but probably it is the main source of that problem. Mars/Moon conjunction in 12th house determines the men in your life and what kind of man you attract. The foggy nature of that house manifests itself in your relationships. The presence of Mars here can make them unfounded and distressing because of the Gemini Venus/Virgo Mars square and Venus/Neptune quincunx. The latter may explain the partners go away without explanation and afterwards, you can learn about their sly actions. Neptune in Capricorn opposite Cancer Mercury in 10th house is basically lie, deceit and disappearance of the male figures. It is also same for Mercury/Uranus opposition.

In your transits, Neptune has played an important role. It is usual to feel that all doors closed to you. Even if you don´t worry about your relationships normally, you will do. Transit Mars in 7th opposite Neptune in 6th house may bring unsatisfying relationships which are not worth to experience. These days are not good times for serious relationships and they cause disappointments in the long run.

Anna239 » Zephyrin Ok yeah I get that introverted block may be a contributing thing also maybe the 12th house to an extent as well because I always seem to attract either really ridiculously introverted people (even MORE so then me I should add) and people that seem like they need help. But this is partially because I´m ok with "weirdos", I mean to an extent, like anti-social somewhat divergent types, I can sympathise and relate..

No it´s ok, I want to hear what people´s different opinions on this matter are. Besides I believe it´s possible there could be a silver lining to my domaint 12th house, as most of the people I meet even to have become friends with are really genuine and unique people

Do you think that the venus-neptune quincux is significant? I haven´t read much about quincuxes so I don´t know if they are nearly as strong as other aspects
I don´t know if their actions could be specifically called "sly" but they did become very changeable and seemed to have very flaky minds and one was very unjustifiably suspicious (technically two had gemini placements 😁 which I do too, but somehow this doesn´t seem to effect my actions!? Perhaps that´s thanks to mars in Virgo)

Thanks for your advice/interpretation, how much longer are those particular transits going to last for?
Because actually although this is not what this question was about I have to say aswell that my family relationships have been gradually continuing to suffer too and I lost my best friend from issues similar to those with my romantic relationships ☹

Anna239 » nutelina Yes but people should realise that by ourselves whatever little sense we make doesn´t amount to much unless that was their continued point

erickaf I agree with that Russian lady´s list. I would add Venus-Mars conjunction in the natal and Venus conjunction Saturn in the natal...it can be quiet difficult for people in relationships.

Anna239 » erickaf Right so - Saturn, anything retro and all mutable planets.

Thank you

dreamtripp There are no BAD LUCK aspects. Any belief in such is BALONEY!

There are some energies that are more difficult than others to work with, but all energies can be worked with.


I have a good friend who has a Venus opposed Saturn natally and in a composite with his wife of 35 years. According to some astrologers he should have a difficult love life and/or be married to someone older or younger. BUT HE IS NOT! He´s been happily married to someone his age for thirty-five years. You know why? He doesn´t believe in Astrology...lol.

Kidding, but yes its somewhat true.

Now throughout their 35 years of marriage, he has had struggles but they both chose to work through them. Both put in a lot of time and effort to get through those issues. They made a CHOICE to love one another and respect one another. Neither one said "Hey, we have this BAD aspect, so we´re doomed."

In my opinion, what´s truly "BAD´ in astrology is accepting anything as destiny. It is also BAD to NOT look at a chart holistically where everything interplays, and instead just focus on what some other person says is a BAD aspect. Astrology only shows your strengths and weakness (both of which can be used for good or ill) not your destiny. Believing in fatalistic astrology is just a Barnum effect. What you tell your mind, is what will happen.

So, instead look at challenging aspects, as just that - a challenge. People who give up will self-fulfill the so called prophecy of their own interpretation by doing so...isn´t that obvious? A Venus opposed Saturn may have to work a little harder to make a relationship work, but they absolutely can make one work.

There is NO SUCH THING AS BAD LUCK OR BAD ASPECTS and a so called "GOOD´ aspect can be just as challenging if one decides to be lazy and exploit the energies of it. Its just energy! Energy is pure, how you choose to work with it will decide the outcome.

Zephyrin » Anna239 You´re welcome. Actually your chart is relatively a nice one among the other charts I´ve looked at. Some charts are basically a mess :")

At least 2-3 months, these transits will be exact... Damn Neptune.

"Do you think that the venus-neptune quincux is significant? I haven´t read much about quincuxes so I don´t know if they are nearly as strong as other aspects"

Only when they are exact, quincuxes make me suspicious. They may symbolize the situations and a part of our nature that we can´t get rid of easily, can´t explain and find a reason but we continue to experience them.

"...one was very unjustifiably suspicious (technically two had gemini placements 😁 which I do too, but somehow this doesn´t seem to effect my actions!? Perhaps that´s thanks to mars in Virgo)"

lol yep, Virgo can be a rescuer in charts which are densely occupied by air/water placements.

Anna239 » dreamtripp Overall I think that I would have to agree from what I have seen, that although yes there are difficult aspects to have in a chart it usually doesn´t ruin the majority of people´s lives. And there are several things, too many really that people seem very eager to call out as being seeds of doom lol. However also I have seen many people´s charts with things that "look bad" and they are super successful or famous and it makes you wonder if they needed those "setbacks"

Anna239 » Zephyrin Thank you,
I´ll have another look into that quincux then.

Oh yes I have noticed, I think I would be quite volatile if it wasn´t for my Virgo/libra placements as well. My moon seems to keep everything in it´s iron fist

rohini moon Damn, Merc retro in full effect....

Anna239 » rohini moon Yuup..

Anna239 » Queen92 Aww I´m sorry to hear that. But you know we all have problems sometimes in relationships, maybe you will find yourself being more comfortable in the future. Also it´s not bad being a introvert in your relationships