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I´m afraid of relationships because of 12H Venus
June 5, 2021 at 02:07 (UT/GMT)

I´m afraid of relationships because of 12H Venus
Hello. I became interested in astrology at the age of 15-16, and since I have three planets in my house, I read a lot about them. As a result, I screwed myself up so much that now I´m afraid to start a relationship at all (I´m 20). Each source says that Venus in the 12th house will bring suffering, self-destruction, partners will be married crazy drug addicts, etc. A huge number of people with such placement confirm such interpretations. Because of all this, I began to ignore any signs of attention to me, because I´m afraid to get out of loneliness. It seems to me that if I have a relationship, then misfortune will come to me. But at the same time, I understand that I would like to experience love, I´m just very afraid of all this suffering, karma and other things. Honestly, I don´t know what to do anymore. Help me with some advice, please!

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June 10, 2021 at 01:35

Huge illusion, that.
We are actually degenerating. Devolving.
This seems painfully obvious to me.
Yet people think we are on the cusp of some great "awakening".
Not sure what logic they´re going by.


June 8, 2021 at 16:49

Ah...this is where propagating the idea to the masses comes into play.
It wasn´t until the 1980s that this notion began to be put into people´s heads ...through all streams of media.
I remember listening to a Priest talk about this many years ago... growing up In the era of the 50s until the late 70s - no one even mentioned the word. He said in his personal life of home, and in school ...the word alone was never mentioned. Not a thing.
So how did it BECOME so prevalent?
Well... all you have to do is start putting that idea into music and movies.. go and look at how much worse it became in the 80s, all they had to do was start singing serenades about people offing themselves, and there you have it...
Of course that´s not all they did.. the media uses other nefarious means to reach their goal.. propaganda coupled with sorcery.
I realize that may sound not likely to the average joe, but it´s the truth.

June 8, 2021 at 07:15


It´s like one negative turned into such a big positive!



June 8, 2021 at 02:09


June 7, 2021 at 23:04

So much "advancement" of society, but the suicide rate has increased also. Id have to go back and find the actual stats on this.
Safe to say insanity and suicide are close cousins. So many hopless people surrounded by these false conveniences. Id rather die the old fashioned way. Mauled by a grizzly

So, how exactly are we advancing again?

June 7, 2021 at 21:01

Mindless conformity is never good, but at least back then, what people were "conforming" to seemed somewhat desirable in a certain light...the "American Dream" and all that.
Nowadays, it seems like it´s a race to see how fast and convincingly we can conform to the kookiest, craziest, most vile shit.

June 7, 2021 at 20:49

was said by a French philosopher, and I agree..

June 7, 2021 at 20:43

Dead on.
And people wonder why the US has the highest insanity rate in the world. Too much ease.
"Idle hands are the devil´s workshop."
Hence the whole "offended" phenomenon, just to name one.
"Merps" to name another.
Too much time on the hands, too much time to think about shit that doesn´t matter.
*Disclaimer: I have no statistical evidence that America is the craziest country in the world. But jeez, how could it not be? Although everyone else is catching up real quick...

June 7, 2021 at 20:36

And I would argue that you are arguing correctly.
All these things...the "luxuries", "conveniences", things we have convinced ourselves we "need"...it´s a trap that we willingly fall into.
It is true that it´s the way you use something which is important...take the internet...it´s neutral...or money...also neutral...but it´s the attitudes and attachment to these things...the space they take up in our "being" which can be harmful...


June 7, 2021 at 19:32

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What do you mean by you want experience love outside of social norms?
Loneliness isn´t perfect word for what I meant. Look at it this way: If you like your solitude how do you use it? 12th house is about being with your inner You, maybe self-examination through astrology, but at the same time I guess you are curious and playful girl. The thing is many people are all about emotional drama which coming from mindset of inability to be alone and this can be very tiring for someone who knows the feeling of inner independence.
My suggestion is to be with someone who will tolerate and protect your connection to whatever you do or feel when you are alone and be willing and able to talk about it, share it.
Regarding your current situation, I know from my own experience once you gain stronger independence we talked about earlier, you will be more able live desired kind of loneliness even while talking to people.
This is my approach to how I understand your problem. Take from it what you want.



June 7, 2021 at 19:01

Did you see recently when Texas I believe got hit with a snowstorm (questionable in and of itself..and people also had videos showing that the alleged snow didn´t melt as if it was plastic) the whole city had NO water, or electricity for a week or two? Completely at the mercy of the TPTB to fix the problem for them..
I´ve heard of Into the wild, the general gist... definitely will look more into it


June 7, 2021 at 17:52

First thing you have to do is eliminate that fear. We always learn best by experiences, so that’s how you’ll figure it out and learn to notice the red flags to relationships that aren’t good for you. . .
I have those 3 same planets in my 12th. You have to learn to be content by yourself. Embrace your loneliness, your solitude, it is very important you do so. I was married to someone for 5yrs and together for about 8, he was always out of town because of his job, months on end. Because I was also so young at that time, it was real difficult but that relationship made me realize many things about myself, even if love doesn’t last forever it does make you grow, for the rest of your life.
My last long term relationship, I met him as he was working 2 offices away from me. Everyday we were together, probably the best start to relationship I ever had, he was my best friend. 7-8 months in, he took a new job opportunity. Then, I went through the same as I did with my 1st husband. He was a rep, travelled every month Internationally and this went on for years. Even apart, I never felt alone.
Built trust and faith that you are worthy of love, your relationships might be different than others and that’s okay.
I’ve met abusive partners, those drug addicts (that are just waiting to be saved) you’re better than that! and with experience and knowing yourself, you’ll be able to see those red flags. It needs to start with yourself; don’t be afraid to fall in love.
Lastly, what´s wrong with foreign men ?? In my eyes, hmm very sexy. You might learn a different love language there


June 7, 2021 at 17:12

It would be nice to be fully self-sufficient and more free to live our lives. Yeah, we may not have all the conveniences of modern life (which how convenient they actually are is disputable)
Is something really convenient if we cant live without it? Or have to work long, hard hours to maintain the lifestyle. Or have to stay put like a trained dog because we might lose our conveniences if we up and moved? That doesnt sound convenient at all...sounds like a trap!
I would argue that the most convenient lifestyle is one that allows the most freedom from all these "things"
Yes, i believe it would be much more rewarding to live that kind of life, and not feel so much like a slave to some schedule.
You ever watched or read "Into the Wild"?
That guy had the same idea. Pretty interesting story

June 7, 2021 at 16:45


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June 7, 2021 at 07:55

I understand though, at your age you have a right to feel this way. Though I can say that you are overthinking things and suffer from anxiety. Thats is also natural and comes hand in hand with some of the placements. That is a hint that your inner self may want to take another step on the journey, maybe through the lesson of being alone. Your young personality and psyche, heavily influenced by the superficial social paradigm, is confused. The social paradigm is stronger than the voice of the soul, which has been systematically oppressed. This is dilemma we all share, yet only some are mature and strong enough the prefer what the soul desires at the cost of what socially formed ego wants (or rather thinks that it wants).
It is only when we let go that we can realize that nothing and nobody else was holding us in the suffering.
In my opinion 12th house placements are often a gift - or rather a reward. It just may hurt before one realizes the inevitability of things and notices the mysterious open door which are invisible to most, yet can be symbolized by some 12th placements.
My advice? Time will resolve your issue for sure. You can maybe speed up the process by trying to be as true as possible to your (inner) self. That may bring a more intense pain at a shorter time. Though my experience is that it is hard to distinguish the true voice of inner self and takes time and mistakes to learn to do so. So – a vicious cirlce – o rather a spiral of growth.


June 7, 2021 at 07:53

I don´t use houses system except of Asc, Dc, Mc, Ic. In my opinion you should look at position of venus and mars. And its aspect. Your venus in aries and your mars in sagittiraus. You are exciting, speedy, fiery (I mean hot or fire), direct, outspoken in relationship. And also you show your love immediately. And your venus and mars has pluto aspect. Mars conjuct pluto and venus trine pluto. You are passionate in love. To me you should carreful about man. You can encounter plutonic man. They can be jeaoulus, possessions, and angry man. Take care of yourself.
Sorry my english if you don´t understand me. It´s not so good. See ya

June 7, 2021 at 07:44




June 7, 2021 at 07:43

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You don´t offer any information about your experience or feelings other than your astrological interpretations.. Anyway, as symbols of male energy in your life, Sun in pisces and 12th house Saturn show that partner who may be best for you like some kind of solitude and is able to share it with you. Ruler of 7th house, house of marriage, is in 12th house too.
Also, it´s good to realize that we currently live in a culture that is totally obsessed with sex and love between sexes. It´s ok to be alone and do other things, maybe expressing love in more broader manner. I bet you kinda like certain aspects of your solitary nature and part of your fear is based on social pressure. Being in your place, I would try to transform your loneliness into sense of independence from rush and often quite empty social life and learn how to read peoples characters from place of that mindset.
This is not complex chart reading, just some insights seen at first glance! Please keep it in mind.



June 7, 2021 at 03:59


We don our shields of truth...
⚔️🛡

June 7, 2021 at 03:55

Good question... we need to deliberate. The person who has the most innate traits of living the ´hunter-gatherer´ life..
Our ancient ancestors lived like that. I mean minus - the seeking Moksha part - isn´t that interesting to ponder?
Hunter gatherers, treacherous life for people nowadays, but damn rewarding in living autonomously

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