Me and my beloved country. - Discussions, questions

Psyle This thread´s person-nation synastry represents primarily the political (and cultural) relationship between an individual and a country. Here the country is equated with a transient group consciousness ("egregore").

By comparison, regular locational astrology (relocated charts) represents the relationship between an indiviual and the location itself. Here the country is equated with the perpetual spirit of the place ("genius loci").

Just by looking at your natal chart (Plamen) we can already deduce that you have a strong relationship with Bulgaria because you were born on a IC-Uranus planetary line (deep political roots), and a DSC-Saturn planetary line (openness about traditions). With Uranus and Saturn as the two rulers of your IC. Each time you come back to Bulgaria all these traits get activated. This country also gives you a strong sense of identity (natal 1st and 4th placements). With Neptune in the 3rd house conjunct IC there is a strong spiritual love for your local environement, stronger than how you feel about foreign countries (empty 9th house).

JasmineGem » Plamen Very interesting. I would love to see a chart between myself and the usa. I don´t understand why I was placed here as I have always despised this place. I cannot stand the flag and its true meaning and all of the corruptness here. It´s really sad. I´ve learned a little about Bg and people are very different and have pride in their place.Thanks for sharing your chart and information. ✌

JessSezItSoftly 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏.......... I didn´t read everything but I love your interesting enthusiasm!!

Astro-Seek.com » Plamen System message: Post has been written by user Olenna, who already deleted profile on this website:
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You are probably right about Saturn influence here in the area.
The current chart of Romania as it is now with all its territories, has Aquarius as ascendant, so more Saturn.
The same goes for that unevolved Mars quality i see in some of these nations around.
Luckily we did not try invade anyone lol, more like dominated by others big countries or empires.

Astro-Seek.com » Olenna System message: Post has been written by user Plamen, who already deleted profile on this website:
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24.04.680; 11:56; Pliska, Bulgaria. The time comes from a russian astrolog named Mihail Levin/ Михаил Левин.

As a country, Bulgaria established itself somewhere January 681, after a peace deal with Eastern Roman Emprire.
We are really a Capricorn nation with really dominant Saturn character. From what i`ve red years, ago India and Scotland are Capricorn too. America is Mercurian nation - traders, moneymakers. England and Germany are under Mars.
We as a Saturnic nation, we can either be very materialistic, stubborn, criticizing, doubting, vulgar. But this is only the negative vibration of Saturn. The positive gives: high spirituality, kindness, helpfulness, determination, strong faith and morals.
I dont know about Romania. Maybe the truest chart is the oldest known time of its origin. But i know something. In the whole Balkans, Saturn has a lot of power. Bulgarians are quite Marsians, because if they dont evolve spiritually, they are really impulsive and unstable and destroy and destroy - What new goverment comes, it destroys the plans from the oldest one and begins from scratch. The next does the same. Again and again. This is due to the negative of the Mars and Saturn energies. I know that Saturn is one of the Balkan rulers, but i think we have to put Mars here too, because i see the same things in our neighbours. Saturn is a slow-moving planet and in Bulgaria everything goes slow. We, as in a way poor country, that comes from the restrictions of Saturn. Slow moving as in - One of our highway was build for 40 years ( 1973 - 2013; 360 km ).
Since we are Saturn, either we have ASC Capricorn, Saturn dominant in the chart or heavily aspected Capricorn or Saturn.

Astro-Seek.com System message: Post has been written by user Olenna, who already deleted profile on this website:
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Glad i`m not the only one that has done this type of synastry Hahaha
Me and she(Romania) have a rather difficult relationship lol.
I still have to figure out some of these types of connections with one`s country.
Besides birth "date" for countries can be so lost in time, that is hard to say which is best to use. Especially here in Europe, countries are very old

Astro-Seek.com System message: Post has been written by user Plamen, who already deleted profile on this website:
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Me.

Astro-Seek.com System message: Post has been written by user Plamen, who already deleted profile on this website:
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Bulgaria.

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The aspects. Im the first planets, she is the second --> "planet (me) / aspect / planet ( her )

Me / aspect / Bulgaria

ASC sextile South Node
ASC trine IC
ASC sextile Mars
DSC sextile South Node
DSC trine Moon
MC sextile Pluto
MC sextile Venus
MC square Sun
MC square Uranus
IC square Sun
IC square Uranus
Sun sextile Jupiter
Moon sextile Pluto
Moon sextile Venus
Venus sextile Jupiter
Mars trine Jupiter
Mercury opposition Venus
Mercury opposition Pluto
Jupiter sextile Jupiter
Jupiter square Venus
Jupiter square South Node
Jupiter trine Saturn
Jupiter sextile North Node
Saturn trine Moon
Saturn trine South Node
Neptune trine Mercury
Uranus square MC
Uranus trine South Node
Uranus square DSC
North Node square Mercury
South Node square South Node
South Node trine North Node