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Jun 7, 2022 - 15:31
Sun Sign - VirgoLotusStar » virgochaos
Your Venus in Virgo, along with Sun and Mercury... its really more introvert placements.

I have Venus in Virgo too, I don´t feel like I have good social skills and just dont find it easy to let my guard down... Virgo Venus is very introvert and private and it´s influencing your Libra rising so it´s not gonna be like that social butterfly.

Libra rising means though you are polite in interactions one on one, like thoughtful and diplomatic.
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Jun 7, 2022 - 14:27
Sun Sign - Piscesskyguna » virgochaos
Your sun sign is stronger than ascendent. Sun, mercury i Virgo. This energy from Virgo, be silent, not talk much. Nothing wrong about it. You so not control other peoples.
God bless you.
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May 31, 2022 - 20:25
Sun Sign - Piscespersephone_rising » virgochaos
Maybe some of the misconceptions about Libras is caused by people conflating “social” and “sociable”? I think of the social nature of Libra rising as being oriented to social and relational dynamics, or literally
relating to society.

I myself am introverted, and not what you’d typically think of as sociable and friendly. However, I am am always filtering through a “social” lens. I notice people, I notice how people are relating to each other, how they are relating to the environment and society as a whole. I am always calibrating to the social dynamics I find myself in. On a macro level this could be an interest in politics, sociology, human behavior, design, fashion, etc. On an interpersonal level, being highly attuned to the social environment can be really stressful and draining. So if the other parts of the chart are not congruent with “typical” Libra traits, then simple descriptions of Libra risings aren’t going to have the necessary complexity. I’m only a couple years into my self study of astrology, and the hardest part for me is delineating disparate seeming elements of a chart. I have a Virgo moon, and that combined with my Libra rising can create a lot of social anxiety, criticalness, and misanthropy, despite my Pisces stellium.

Of course, if the rest of the chart supports it, I’m sure Libra risings have the potential to be the ultimate social butterflies or politicians, for better or worse (I can think of a certain German dictator who had libra rising).
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May 31, 2022 - 09:17
Sun Sign - Pisces꓄꒐ꋊꋊ꒐ꏂ » virgochaos
When I was young and kept on pleasing everyone, my Libra rising is on point but the decline started after I turned 26 and tried to stay true to myself (Ascendant square Uranus). It was liberating lol. To finally be able to say no and not feel bad about it (Ascendant trine Saturn). People still think I´m a welcoming person probably because of my harmonious aspects between sun-moon-mercury. I could relate more to my sidereal Virgo tho~ c:

*Edit: My NN is in 3rd and it squared my ascendant. Looks like I´m on a quest to relate to people but I´m not a sociable person.
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May 31, 2022 - 08:49
Sun Sign - TaurusSessa11 » virgochaos
Yes. I have libra rising, but I`m not a verry sosial person. The reason for this is that I have Pluto conjunct my AC and in opposite to my moon in Aries.
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May 31, 2022 - 06:48
Sun Sign - AquariusCatch-22 » virgochaos
I just love Campanus. You can go out on a night, look at the planets in the sky, aiming to the south and then divide the Prime Vertical into 12 pizza slices. Try that one with a time system like Placidus or even a geographic system like Regiomontanus (where is the equator? You kust don´t know).

I feel also it "works" that way. Like my wife got a HUGE 12th house, which fits her. And I got my North Node in 1st house, which also makes more sense than in my second like Placid, since I really have to develop my self image and individuality.
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May 31, 2022 - 02:07
Sun Sign - CapricornJaided » virgochaos
Libra is highly relational but that doesn´t always mean social. Especially with your Moon and Mars in 8th. 8th being an inward house makes a difference in how the sign energy play out.
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May 30, 2022 - 23:55
Sun Sign - TaurusRosincvist » virgochaos
You might have :160: on the English-Equal-House cusp at 30 1st house and 0 2nd house! This isn´t as mind blowing as a two-signed planet, but it can escalate specialness and uniqueness to the Nth degree!
Unless someone actually had nine planets in Libra, the tendency is to draw attention away from Social Mechanics and towards a less shaking modality and clever an element!
Libras were all around me my developmental years because my past-life hung a lot on librations of the most excessively human sign!
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May 30, 2022 - 16:59
Sun Sign - Geminibubblebathskies » virgochaos
I have a Libra Rising, but feel like my Moon in the 4th House counteracts it somewhat so that I´m more withdrawn in many ways.

I wonder if your Moon in the 8th House could have a similar effect, as the 4th & 8th Houses are both rather private places for a planet regarding the deeper, emotional self to be & therefore could lead to social connections being a bit more difficult to make.
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May 30, 2022 - 16:23
Sun Sign - AquariusCatch-22 » virgochaos
Wether you do or you do not synergize with your sidereal chart, you´re more than just the Ascendant or the Sun. So I can believe since you got a little stellium in Leo you feel like that.

That what makes it so difficult. I´m 2 years into Astrology, I followed two courses on it, read at least 5 books on it and hundreds of articles and I still don´t get my own chart yet...
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May 30, 2022 - 16:12
Sun Sign - TaurusAstro-Seek.com » virgochaos
Interesting because I have an Ascendant in Libra and ... I don´t see myself that much. Others feel the same. Mostly they see me underlined Aries! My Sun opposition to my Ascendant .
The funny thing is that in Vedic Astrology I have an Ascendant in Virgo. Maybe I am closer to this ...
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May 30, 2022 - 12:21
Sun Sign - VirgoEman.08 » virgochaos
I thought the same thing when I was a beginner in astrology.
Using social to describe libra rising is so simplictic.
People perceive you (as libra ASC) to be approachable, beautiful, wise and intriguing to befriend. (and Not the other way around).
Even if you´re introverted, shy or selective.

That was my experience my whole life, minus few open enemies here and there (relating to my 12H mars).
Who knows me won´t describe me as social, but having good vibe that makes me trustworthy. (even though I don´t even try,I don´t even go to event or speak when there are more than 3 people in the room).

What you´re describing is your Moon Venus square/ Venus Mars square.

I also have Moon square Venus.
(in fact we have somewhat similar charts)
There´s a big possibility that I have agoraphobia.
The not wanting to share and isolation got worse the last couple of years.
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May 30, 2022 - 07:23
Sun Sign - Leotomdos » virgochaos
My bet is on the Saturn. He sits right on IC, which is IMO very underrated sensitive point influencing introversion a lot under some placements and aspects. Also he squares your ASC, giving more impact to ASC - IC clash. Your secure space (physical, psychic, spiritual) is probably crucial for you, even at the cost of popularity or shallow social life. Make this your strength, it is what you are.
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May 30, 2022 - 06:43
Sun Sign - AquariusCatch-22 » virgochaos
Does a Virgo rising sign give more synergy?
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May 30, 2022 - 06:23
Sun Sign - CancerPrimal » virgochaos
I´m a Libra Stellium.
Most people don´t take me as Social person either.
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May 25, 2022 - 06:20
Sun Sign - ScorpioGraham » virgochaos

Thank you for mentioning that you are a high-functioning autistic with toxic family issues and difficulty in communicating effectively, which (I am assuming) caused problems during your childhood/adolescence. Those problems are likely to be at the root of your natal MercuryRx-trine-SaturnRX mindset (that Pluto in Scorpio/2nd is impelling you to address).

With a 4th house Saturn, it is not uncommon for family patterns to influence a chart-owner´s financial values - whilst an 11th house Mercury can make friends, groups and networking the key to higher earnings. BUT, although your Mercury is strong/in-it´s-own-sign (+ the ruler all your personal planets) and Saturn is strong/in-it´s-own-sign (+ the ruler of Uranus and Neptune), your ability to use these two planets efffectively will manifest ONLY after you have learned the lessons that are highlighted by their natal retrograde motion.

A clue to what those lessons are will be given by the meaning of the Sabian Symbol for the degree which Saturn and Mercury were at when (during their retrograde motion) each of them was opposite the Sun. ... [See my next post for Lynda Hill´s suggested meanings of these two Sabian Symbols.]

And clues can also be found by reflecting upon the meaning* of the harmonic aspects connecting the 3 planets ... Mercury-Pluto = 23rd harmonic : Saturn-Pluto = 165th harmonic : Mercury-Saturn = 60th harmonic.

[ * 60th harmonic = expertise : 23rd harmonic = need to show others that you are a risk-taker : 165th harmonic = inclined to "not hear" views that involve a change of your current thinking/direction/path.]
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May 24, 2022 - 21:06
Sun Sign - ScorpioGraham » virgochaos
What Pluto is impelling you to do is to address the issues of your retrograde Mercury and Saturn. S
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May 24, 2022 - 19:01
Sun Sign - Tauruss81 » virgochaos
Pluto is the ruler of your 2nd house (how do you earn money) and is partile conjunct with Lilith (True calculation) and the Anti-Vertex, in conjunction with the 2nd house cusp, and in sextile with Mercury (ruler of your 10th house, your role in society), the Sun, Neptune (ruler of your 6th house, work and service) and Saturn on your IC, that means Pluto is also in sextile with your IC and in trine with your MC. Yeah, the 2nd house ruler in trine with the MC, it´s hard to tell someone with that aspect that will have problems earning money hah.
That Pluto in 2nd house has more positive things than negative ones. Pluto is all about power, and in your chart it has big influence, that´s ok with it. Being in 2nd house means many things, including you are really good at finding the best price on what you want to buy.
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May 24, 2022 - 17:32
Sun Sign - ScorpioGraham » virgochaos

[quote] "I had gotten the reading in hopes for advice on how to work with what I have and where strengths may lie only to basically hear “you’re doomed!” from them."[/quote]

What did you ask this astrologer to look at? For example, did you ask for the reading to focus on finance?

What did the astrologer actually say? For example, were words like "horrible" and "shitty" used to describe the difficult/challenging planet contacts - or do you perceive words like difficult and challenging as "essentially" meaning horrible/shitty?

You are only likely to have a shitty life if you ignore those who have the integrity to tell you the things that you NEED to hear (rather than the things that you WANT) to hear.

You do not have a horrible chart ... but, unless you learn how to handle it´s difficult/challenging astrological indicators, you may indeed have a shitty life. So ... heed the message delivered by your astrologer, rather than seeking an astrologer who tells you only what you (currently) are ready to hear.
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May 24, 2022 - 15:48
Sun Sign - AquariusCatch-22 » virgochaos
In that case it´s 60€ please, write it to my account :36:
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