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thegoodwhich » franzschubert Hi Franz I hope your weekend´s going good. There are soo many things to consider and ponder with Astrology, so I´m going to see if I can help you with what I understand and relate to in your chart.


Our charts are of course different and I was born in 1984, but there are some similar energies so I may have a little idea what you´re going through or how to possibly help.


First, I have a Pisces Ascendant like you, and in my opinion that means you can´t go on right if you´re not helping the world.. but also you need serious reasonable rest, everyone does, but you´ve also got other signs that require tons of chill time that can be hard to give oneself.. I have a stellium in Scorpio so I know how exhausting that heavy water energy can be.. and you´ve got your Sun and Mercury there.. My South Node is in Scorpio along with my Moon, Venus, Saturn and Pluto so I´ve had to learn a lot about dampening that energy with Taurus gifts and modes of operation.


Your South & North Nodes are next door in Aries and Libra Sun well get back to that.. but even if you don´t have anything extravagant or prominent going on in the sign of Taurus, it can always be worthwhile to use an opposition´s wisdom to balance better.. And luckily we are all going to be experiencing the axis of Taurus and Scorpio with the Nodes now there, for the next almost two years..


This is about being more real about your existence, more practical with your psyche, more in the physical than the mental or emotional; using non-physical energies to make the physical more enjoyable and less stressful..

Taurus is the body, the senses, the beauty, the choice and personal preference, enjoying the smaller and finer things, sinking into your body or the Earth, grounding, stability, creating security by building it for yourself step by little step, sometimes finding goldmines or that pot of gold, Taurus takes and makes the life and self it wants to live. Taurus goes its own way, it doesn´t know others´ ways or that they have ways, it´s minding its own business and making sure it has what it needs and wants.

If you can adopt that "selfishness" when you feel overwhelmed with mental energy or find it hard shining your light without blowback, it could help you refocus and nourish yourself so that you don´t just eat up everyone´s energies they´re throwing at you no matter what they are..

I can´t imagine the Scorpio Sun Mercury combination, but it can be an amazing gift if honored. Your soul desires and mentality are on almost the same exact page.. just make sure you respect the great power that is there and give yourself proper breaks.. Pisces Ascendant can give a lighter spin to things sometimes, but not always.


Anyway, everyone can benefit from Taurus and all signs´ signature energy regeneration, but now is the perfect time to practice and perfect Taurus stuff with the North Node freshly in it. We´re all figuring out moreso how to honor our energies, make it simpler, do the work, take the steps even if we´re scared, relax, enjoy the fruits of our labor and soak in mother nature.. Lots more you could say, but let´s look at Scorpio South Node for a moment or two.


Scorpio South Node, (which you may understand better than me) is about using our mental, psychic and emotional energies wisely. It´s about releasing ourselves from traps that keep us imprisoned in our own selves.. and entangled with others and things they did to us or we to them.. It´s about letting these things go, and moving forward in a self-focused Taurus way to prevent people from ensnared us again..


It´s okay to be there to help people, and share your depth, compassion and wisdom, but I guess when you have the signs you do in your chart, and the Libra North Node, you gotta be mindful of how you´re sharing yourself, energy and time with others. You´re gonna do it, you gotta do it, but you gotta figure out the way that works for you.


I wonder what you could tell me about having your Venus in Libra and conjunct the North Node? I´ve got my Sun in Libra, and a stellium in the 7th house but the rest of the planets in it are in Scorpio which bleeds into the 8th house.. Anyways, so hopefully I understand Libra enough to speak on it..


You´ve got her ruler there with Venus so I´m guessing that´s important to your North Node.. and that means your South Node is opposing your dear Venus.. when you figure this out hun, life will be so much easier and better.. more beautiful.. but guess what? You get to be the one to create that beauty, and share what´s already there.


Venus and Libra aren´t just about beauty though as we know.. really they´re there to keep things flowing so that beauty naturally emerges as things wax and wane. With this strong Libra energy, it really carries a similar theme to Scorpio and Pisces.. We all want to help heal people and clear a way for them! We want to soothe all their hurts and tell them how to care for themselves and stop wounding themselves.. and they usually don´t.. (but hopefully sometimes they are even if we´re the last to know or never know) and often with these signs we can be mirrors that people abuse.


We know and see.. and want to heal.. Us telling someone something they can fix too often results in them acting as if we are the problem.. and I´ve experienced unfortunate relationships where this played out too grotesquely.. but I´ve got Scorpio South Node so I´ve worn that crown of thorns a bit too ridiculously and am denouncing it now lol.. that´s another topic though..

Just be aware that you must consider yourself and take real care of yourself.. And finding out how to make boundaries work for you will go a very long way serving you for the rest of your life.



But now here´s a conundrum cuz you have all this selfless energy and naturally help people or want to, yet your South Node is in Aries implying if you´re Too self-centered you´ll fall backwards.. But thankfully, while Libra, your North Node, north star, sign is all about the other and giving of self for harmonization, it also has mastered Venus energy like Taurus, and knows that it must care for itself fully first before it can be best for others..


I could go on quite a while, but I already have.. so to wrap things up for now, I would say look to your Libra North Node for answers on how to focus yourself best and what to prioritize. I´ve ignored the houses your Nodes are in sorry we´ll visit that later or you can let me know what you´ve already learned about that.. but learn from the Aries South Node to see where your common pitfalls may be when dealing with others And yourself..


I don´t want to leave out your Leo Moon, and it´s in the 29th anaretic degree so it´s gotta be extra important. You´ve got a lot of light to shine and creative beautiful bright gifts to share and nurse from your self/soul. Don´t hide your glory.. but you get to choose what you share with people. Find the ways that is liberating rather than a burden.


And give yourself one extra break cuz you got the Virgo energy too with your Mars I think it was.. multiple planets are aspecting your North Node, Pluto, Saturn (which is for constricting/constructing your South Node better) and more but that is a lot to think about already lol.. I hope something has or will help.


Of everything, I´d say its most important to be careful how you interact with others and give attention to how you´re balancing your presence and theirs. You deserve time devoted positively to yourself. You can harmonize and beautify, you can bring out the love in things and people wherever you go just by being yourself.. give yourself what you need, and then freely offer to others when you´re ready and able.

Crinkly » franzschubert Hi OP. You´re looking for meaningful ways to contribute to the world but feeling restricted from acting. Would you say this is correct? Switch to your sidereal whole sign chart and see if these placements make more sense.

Sunnyshadow » franzschubert

Rosincvist » franzschubert has a blessed al conjunction, what is so weird about that?

rohbear » franzschubert How about changing from malefic/benefic to challenging/supportive? How come the top 7, rather than 6 or 8? Just curious. anyway, I would encourage you to look closely at the Nodes, especially since there are conjunctions to each. Would you say your life this time is learning more about relationships? In past lives you were probably pretty selfish and jealous in relationships (Juno precisely conjunct South Node, and in selfish 1st house/aries). Now you´re looking at the goal of real love (Venus conjunct North Node, 7th house/Libra). But that Saturn is causing some rigid habits and pessimism. Pluto trine-ing from the 9th is your balm, offering transformation through adopting higher spiritual values. Certainly Chiron in the 7th/Libra indicates healing is needed in the realm of relationships. With Lilith square you Sun, there is a conflict between you desire to express your deepest desires vs the desire to be admired by others/conforming to others´ (society´s) standards. Conflicts from square aspects don´t go away; we are tasked to learn how to live with them. How can you express your deep desires while living with the restricting values of others?

JayJayAstrology » franzschubert Do you want comments from people who don´t believe in malefic-benefic or use Placidus charts?

1janos » franzschubert May I recommend you disregard the concepts of the benefic/malefic dichotomy, which originates from the Middle Ages?

Factors in the chart describe different qualities in your life and you. They of course can be evaluated to be favourable or unfavourable, but that doesn´t help much, they remain there.

There is no way to escape them, as they depict who and what you are. The more challenging aspects, like the Retrograde in H1 is what you grow through and mature.

Heßen Lutz » franzschubert Well, Sun in Scorpio with a Leo Moon conjoined Mars and square Pluto shows a strong personality.

Pisces rising tames the chart a bit but these are powerful configurations.

JayJayAstrology » franzschubert I would not say that I think interpreting fixed stars is wrong or totally unworthy of study - I don´t experience it as a rift. I just think that the planets in our solar system - the closer celestial objects - are the essential forces of influences upon us. They simply are the stronger forces. We can go crazy trying to interpret all the various fixed stars and asteroids and points we consider possible influences. The more we consider, the more mind-befuddling it gets. At least, that´s how I see it. Keeping it simple - and interpreting the closer and more obviously important planets, just makes my job easier.

Understanding one´s chart can take a long time. I´m 70 now, and through the years, I´ve come to understand my chart differently at different stages. I think I understand it now better than ever - but - age can do that. Life teaches us.

I´m glad you weren´t judged for the negative feelings of others as a child. But, sorry to hear you feel a profound lack of self-worth. It´s probably a combo of influences - but - moreso - your consciousness. There´s probably a good reason for it.

I have Saturn conjunct South Node in my first house and Sun and Mercury in the 8th house too. My South Node is in Virgo though. You have Mars in Virgo and Virgo DES. We have similarities. I did struggle with self-worth for a long time. But over the years, I got better . . . through self-talk and standing up to my own negative voices. You are only 25 years old, so you have time yet to grow and change. The 20s are quite difficult for most people. They were for me.

I do think Saturn is about being of service and Aries is independent - so yes, there´s a leadership quality to Aries and 1st house - but mostly, it means you´ll be of service in your own special way - at least, that is how I read it. Saturn also suggests a slow but sure maturation process - it is the wise elder too. Where Satwurn is, is a big strong focus in the chart. For you - Aries - independence - following your own impulses and wisdom. It is connected with a wound - probably part of the self-esteem issue. SN/Saturn are in the opposite sign of your Chiron in Libra, 7th - where you might compare yourself to others. Aries doesn´t compare itself to others. It is its own person without comparison or contrast. When you are your own person, then you can also be your own person in relationships without comparing yourself - which is why you have North Node in Libra.

Poor self-worth is a thing of comparison - usually. I suppose we can judge ourselves and be our own voice of comparison to a higher ideal. It´s possible that you have modeled your mother´s voice - as we all do that - and you feel low estee just because she didn´t support you and was mean to you. It´s a kind of judgment. Children always take it to heart and blame themselves, when parents are unhappy.

Anyway, I give you a big hug. Take heart. I bet it will get better with time . . . and as you have more affirming experiences in life.

JayJayAstrology » franzschubert It sounds like you are most concerned with how you present in the world and how others see you - as well as what struggles you might have in life. Is that right?

Yes, there are astrologers who value fixed stars within the constellations and others who don´t pay much attention. I belong to the latter. The core of our personalities are based upon the Sun, Moon and ASC. The personal and social planets fill in the details. The outer planets show pressures of change upon the personality. Everything else is an adjective.

Leo Moon is conjunct Virgo Mars - the biggest influence to your Moon. 6th house. So you are service-oriented with much passion there for helping others. It can be an indirect service as well as a direct one - with many possibilities for the kinds of service.

Pisces rising can be very creative but also can play many different roles, according to the need of others. It suggests thin boundaries - an ability to have much empathy for others. Jupiter and Neptune, your traditional and modern chart rulers are both in Capricorn, 10th. So, helping is again represented here - you like taking responsibility for others.

Saturn, ruler of Capricorn, is in Aries in the 1st. You are quite independent, but you are all about helping others - being of service. It is as much a strength as a wound - because you probably help at your own expense. Helping others is noble and good. But, helping too much - helping at one´s own expense, is problematic.

The goal for you is to develop more equal relationships - where there is more give and take, more mutuality and less you being and feeling responsible and helpful. Sun and Mercury in the 8th gives you support for examining yourself and changing yourself. You´ll be interested in psychology toward that end.

Most likely, you were judged and blamed for how others feel in childhood. This is common with sensitive people - they are easy targets for scapegoating and blame. And then they process it to understand it - but - then there´s a wound around feeling a need to help others. So, you need to realize that you´ll feel guilty for not helping at your own expense - for a while. You have to be willing to feel guilty to work your way through this. The guilt does go away in time.

Did I get this right?

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Etherealmind » franzschubert Franz ... everything is important in a chart like in music haha ! People who don´t pay attention to some planets or else were just not careful enough or simply forgot it in their interpretations but normally everything should be considered !!