Just a Bunch of Cheap Horaries - Discussions, questions

FOWL » Anthony19 Thank you Anthony! We´ll see in the long run, this is very experimental right now.

I´m using John Frawley´s Horary textbook and trying to be rigid with the rules... but there are SO many. He recommends Regiomantus, and so that is what I´m using. But he does say any house system you believe in fully will work for you.
What I´m enjoying about Regiomantus so far is that there is much more variation in house cusps minutes apart than with Placidus, so in doing a few horary questions back to back, the charts are less similar, which is more interesting.
Another thing to note about doing a bunch of horaries in a day, is that you dig deeper into the movement of the planets over the course of the day, which only deepens your understanding of everything else... but all astrology is like that isn´t it? Always a way to get deeper into it.

Anthony19 » FOWL Yes, I am following your thread to look at your delineation on the Horary charts.

You are absolutely right about the movement of the planets in the day and the questions that people had put forward to you. I do admire you that you are very quick but quite decisive. And you judged all the Horary questions, even when Saturn was in the 7th.

Thank you for bringing it up for the forum. Its like a refreshment course for me.

FOWL » Rosincvist Hey Roncy! So in looking at the chart... Your significator is the Moon... which would also have been the co-significator, and I wanted to look at the twelfth house for mental house, but it is ALSO the Moon! So all we have is the Moon versus the Seventh house ruler Saturn.
NOTE: I didn´t need the specific timing of the event as I am not using transits or electional astrology (things whichI KNOW work...) but testing out Horary specifically. SO I´m not looking at any aspects made to your chart that day, the horary chart, and that alone.

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Ok, so the good news is, your planets WILL aspect, so the meeting will take place, but by opposition! sheesh! In terms of mutual receptions, you are both in each others Face. So basically, not much will be accomplished, you don´t really care about each other, but there´s a reason to be there, so it´s better than nothing. Sorry for not being any more positive, but that´s the chart! Cheers man.

FOWL » polareyezd Polareyezed... I´m looking at your chart now... I have a question, is this a separate property you own, or will you be living with them as well.

FOWL » Anthony19 Well I´m very specifically working from Frawley´s textbook, and he councils against considerations before judgments... so ya... I´m trying to find an answer wherever I can. Some horary charts really are... "could be... hard to say" though... not all horaries give a clear answer.
I´m being decisive because I´m testing out these theories. It´s an experiment... no one is paying me, so I don´t have to feel bound get the perfect answer... I´m going on instinct for a lot of it. BUt almost every question I´ve gotten so far has elements which aren´t clear in the textbook! It´s a difficult practice... wow.

polareyezd » FOWL Thank you FOWL !

I am currently living in the house in question that i own. Should i get roomates [ live with] , specifically, my fiends?

i dont really need to get any but... im asking, maybe it would be bad?

polareyezd » FOWL FOWL Im thinking about/ considering getting a separate one to do it, also. However that isnt / its far from being / materialized , yet

FOWL » polareyezd Ok... so that one was a bit complicated for me. Now remember...I´m just practicing here... don´t take it too seriously....

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Ok... so you are signified by the Sun here, your home is signified by Venus... and the eleventh is also signified by Venus... so after some thought and study, I decided to go with the next sign over in the eleventh, especially since it is intercepted, so Mercury signifies your friend. We could get really serious and turn the chart from there to see how HIS spouse, HIS kids... HIS business all affect you and your home... but I´d rather simplify it and take Mercury to symbolize his imposition upon you entirely. So first off, we have no major receptions between the three signifiers. You are in the term of your friend... it´s a minor nicety at best... while your home is in the term AND triplicity of your friend... which could be a positive, like they will slightly improve your home, but I´m also concerned that it means they will run your home, and you might feel pushed out of it altogether.
This might be mitigated by the fact that Mercury is rather weak in this chart, not only is it in retrograde, but it is Combust... so Mercury doesn´t have much power to control the home... which could translate to him not being in control of his kids or business... what is good is that his money, signified by the Moon, is completely under your control... so it seems like he WOULD pay his fair share.
So we have some mixed things here, and nothing too conclusive, where my advice really comes in is this... Mercury is combust in the Sun, which is your signifier. SO here, we have a physical representation of you feeling crowded by his life perhaps... but he is retrograde and moving away from you. Things that are combust cannot be seen. My advice is that, unless this is all about getting his money, I would hold off a bit... as he is retrograde, what he would be like as a house mate may become more clear to you in time... perhaps delay, and things might become more clear to you.
Again.. grain of salt.... sprinkle that shit all over it like salt bae!

FOWL » Jaidesyd Cool! Thank you for the feedback! Kind of an obvious judgment I guess... but it seems correct.

polareyezd » FOWL Thank You very much, FOWL!

Thanks for sharing your skills as new Horary Salt Bae ! And for sprinkling that shit like that! I like it

It sound like youre saying that person likely controlling, and somewhat beneficial. I am -very- confident in your answer!

Im curious if it is that way with all roomates?

FOWL » Jaidesyd I read something today which made me want to go back and look at your horary chart again. I was reading that the NEXT something should be signified by the next sign over from the house cusp... so Fourth house in this case is ruled by Saturn, and the next sign over is ALSO Saturn... so even though I missed that distinction, as the next house you want being the next sign over, we got the right signifier anyways! So nothing changes... but does sort of reinforce the message that you are already in the home you will be in... going to have to work hard to reverse this horary!

FOWL » polareyezd Well.. me personally... all roommates are a nuisance I want nothing to do with! But no, this horary chart was cast for a specific situation. A different roomate would have a different horary chart.

polareyezd » FOWL so this isnt -the worst- roomate ? lol. I feel like getting a roomate for the sense of community and the [hopefully occasional?] money so... we can help each other.

Although i want my friend to be sucessful and happy, not at my personal / emotional expense in case i am very disrespected / harmed in my own home.

I dont understamd all the terminology you used.. im kinda a layman for the technical terms.

FOWL » polareyezd Yes.. it´s complicated! All I can really say is don´t make the offer now.. wait and keep a close eye on him.. really think about it... try to see him and his family clearly first.

Lonerose99 Hello, I have a question.
Should I re-open the lines of communication with a certain man, or will I get hurt again?

FOWL » fomal12 The inidcation seems to be that you are moving away from that prospect not towards it, so no time soon. Perhaps think of what it is you need to be doing to make that goal a reality and turn yout significator around!

FOWL » Lonerose99 By certain man do you mean an ex lover?

Lonerose99 » FOWL Yes, there has been history. Right now he calls every couple days, but I don´t answer.

Lonerose99 » FOWL I don´t know whether to be friends, or lovers, or just put the whole thing behind me.

FOWL » Lonerose99 Ok... I think I got a very clear judgement for you.

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So for relationship questions, we have a TON of significators to play with! Your thinking mind is the ascendant (quite fittingly Mercury here!) Your emotional self is the Moon... and your sexual self is Venus.
For the Man, his thinking self gets the seventh, so Jupiter, and his sexual self gets The Sun. First off... logically, you don´t even like the guy... emotionally, you still feel attached to him... as your Moon is in Leo, ruled by his Sun. But sexually, you are moving away from him, and logically, your Mercury is in retrograde actually recoiling from him! And combust beneath him.. so you aren´t seeing your own thoughts clearly. It seems to me like he´s love bombing you, and deep down you now better than to go back to him. From this chart (now remember... don´t make life decisions based on this... I´m just learning here!) He is more enamoured with himself than he is you! He views you as convenient... so... if you go back, from this horary, it seems clear you will be hurt again. None of your planets are going to aspect his planets anyways... so it already shows in this chart you won´t get back with him.
BUt what´s clear is that emotionally, you´re drawn to his sexuality, but logically you are not! And your Mercury, once it gets closer to who he really is, will recoil anyways... so ya... that seems clear to me.

YRashawn » FOWL I typed this before I read your response so it will be interesting to see if we arrive to the same or similar conclusion.
For Lonerose
The chart was casted during Mercury hour and a Mercury sign is on the ASC so this chart is radical and fit to be judged.

The ASC is in very late degree, therefore the situation is in a late stage and the querent has outgrown the situation and imminent change is upon them. The ASC is in the term of Mars so there is a severing of matters. This relationship has reached the end of the road as far as I am concerned.

Mercury represents the querent in this chart and is in the movable sign Capricorn. This is indicative of her being unsure, wavering, and going back in forth in terms of her thinking of whether to take back the ex or not.
There is a proliferation of the sexual signs in this chart (Leo, Capricorn, Aries, Pisces) and Venus is in the house of her joy. This means that sex is a major theme in this! Whew.
Mercury is moving backwards from the overbearing heat of the Sun-the relationship partner could have been demanding, and the querent may have felt invisible or blinded by the partner/relationship. Mercury is parallel Venus which is indicative of this being a horary on love and relationships, this also shows love, sex, and pleasure is on the querent´s mind.

28 degrees of Pisces is on the 7th house cusp, Jupiter represents the lover in question. Jupiter is in Aries in the 7th house. He may be of choleric, masculine, hot headed or passionate, a bit strange and usual because he is with Chiron , the wounded healer. Why is the lover with the wounded planet? Because he has the ability to bring heart break and wounding to the querent. Why is Mercury (the querent) moving back (retrograde) towards the square of Chiron? Because if/when she goes back, she will be wounded. Chiron is trine the Moon so he can easily bring the pain to her.

My judgement is that if the querent goes back, she will 100% be heartbroken again. It is time to move on

FOWL » YRashawn Different paths and details... same judgment.. cool.
One of those questions you already know though... if he hurt in the past and she´s asking here... of course she´ll be hurt again.

Lonerose99 » FOWL Thank you for putting in the time to answer, I appreciate it!
We knew one another when younger. Then life happened - he moved out of state, I ended up married and had a family life... became widowed after 28yrs...
He never married, ended up back in the area. We got together again but it just didn´t lead into happily ever after. Sometimes it happens like that I know. But not for me. Yet he doesn´t seem to want to completely go away! Lol
Your choice of words is apt - lovebombing, thinks about himself first, I´m convenient... Right, my rational self says he belongs in the past. He displays narcissistic tendencies. Yet there´s one of those double wammys going on, and both ways! Also his on my Asc. So there´s the emotional attachment. And other good & not so good aspects. But I guess I know what to do, and what you say just confirms it, thanks again.

FOWL » Lonerose99 Thank you for opening up to me and sharing that Lonerose. I´m a bit reticent about what I´m doing here because I haven´t confirmed that Horary works for myself yet, and definitely have a lot of kinks to work out in the mechanics before I could even say that I"m doing it right. I truly appreciate you helping me learn this by asking your question and sharing the reality of it. I will use your comments to go back and study the chart and see if I could have done a better job with it. Thank you.

FOWL I´ve been seduced by horary! I can´t stop rereading this book!