The Bible and Astrology - Discussions, questions

FOWL » CancerPiscesLibra God placed the stars and planets in the sky. If they happen to factually coincide with the happenings of life on earth, how could this possibly be the work of any force other than the God who created it?

Opal E 10And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.

The above is Luke 22:10

To me, this may harken Jesus knowing, that his time would end. Insinuating that there will be a man bearing a pitcher of water.

That is Aquarius. In Precession The water bearer is the next representative for that age.

The Bible foretells it through Jesus.🙂

FOWL » Opal E Interesting... let us not follow the Ganymede trail too closely now!

Opal E » FOWL ? I didn’t know he walked that way.

Linda Harris » FOWL God Created the Lights ...for SIGNS and for SEASONS.....it´s a creation story...but the Bible never really validates astrology for any guide regarding how to live.

I mean...who ever said the Bible made "sense" the way we know it?..

There are MANY contradictions in the Bible regarding other subjects....
Linda

FOWL » Linda Harris I view it much differently as you have MAGI following a star to the Virgin Birth...
God placed the stars in the heavens for signs.... signs of what? In heaven as it is on Earth.... it´s right between the lines. Revelations is just dripping with astrological symbolism, and whole chapters are literally just describing one constellation to the next as you move through the sky... etc...

Opal E » Linda Harris Delta Cancri - the southern donkeys
Bootes Constellation - Herdsmen, shepards
Beehive Cluster, Praesepe - Manger
Orion - Three Kings

A lot of the cast in the Bible are represented in the sky.

Opal E » Linda Harris I agree Linda.

It doesn´t make sense, the way we were taught it.

I was raised High Anglican.

Linda Harris » FOWL Well, this is another contradiction....the first writers of the Bible saw the lights in the sky as SIGNS...for weather, events both bad and good, for seasons. for whatever the heck they were looking for...

It was the LATER writers who decided that "interpreting" these "lights" (for power or money) was BAD...and people should not put their FAITH in that.

And I agree...we have found that astrology is not a religion. We should not put faith in "mankind". We can put our hopes and desires and best wishes...LOL...into Mankind...but let´s face it, Mankind is pretty much a failed race.
We have destroyed so much of what has been given to us. God gave us brains an look what our best thinking has gotten us!!!

To me, astrology is a TOOL for examining oneself and attempting to become the best we can be. Also a way to warn us of what we don´t see.
Kind of like the other behavioral sciences.

It can go farther than that ,of course, but so few get to that plateau of expertise.
I would like my clients to have confidence in me...but I don´t want their FAITH. Faith is not for mortals.

Linda

Opal E » FOWL https://what-when-how.com/religious…

First, I was misunderstanding you Fowl. Thank you for sending me down a rabbit hole, that is related to my personal favourite rabbit hole. My apologies.

In iconographic terms, the constellation of Aquarius is understood as Ganymede, the youth seized by Zeus/ Jupiter to be cupbearer to the gods. In spiritual hermeneutics, this configuration has been reinterpreted to represent the servant of humanity pouring forth the water of knowledge to quench the world’s thirst. The sign of Aquarius is ruled by the planet Uranus that, in the astrological register, signifies unexpected, dynamic and progressive change. Consequently, by aligning the New Age vision with the astrological Age of Aquarius, not only is the New Age grounded in a supposedly discernible astronomical event, but it is also linked to Uranian newness and transformation. However, the major difficulty involved is the location of the actual astronomical date for the equinoctial precession to the Aquarian constellation. British astrologer Nicholas Campion mentions at least seventy possibilities for the beginning of the Age of Aquarius covering a range of 1,500 years. One New Age interpretation holds that the entrance into the new age is an inner rather than outer conversion. As the New Age groups and/or movements constitute a diversified range of exegesis, there are those who expect the change to come through some kind of supernatural or millennial intervention (e.g., Ruth Montgomery (see Montgomery, Ruth), Jose Arguelles)—to a degree following Fiore. Others (such as Ram Dass) expect that the Aquarian entry is purely a spiritual event that depends on a sufficient number of individuals becoming aware of their ‘higher selves’ and undergoing the requisite personal transformation for a quantum shift in planetary consciousness. A third position is represented by Marilyn Ferguson (see Ferguson, Marilyn) who argues that a New Age will come about only through tough ecological reform and consciousness, social work, education, and the practical application of new ideas and innovations. From this last vantage point, the New Age of Aquarius is a social rather than supernatural or spiritual phenomenon.

Opal E » Linda Harris Hahaha!

Well I agree with your entire post. Laine.

Opal E Job 9:9
Who makes the Bear, Orion and the Pleiades,
And the chambers of the south;

Job 38:32
“Can you lead forth a constellation in its season,
And guide the Bear with her satellites?

Job 38:31-32
“Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades,
Or loose the cords of Orion?
“Can you lead forth a constellation in its season,
And guide the Bear with her satellites?

Job 31:26-28
If I have looked at the sun when it shone
Or the moon going in splendor,
And my heart became secretly enticed,
And my hand threw a kiss from my mouth,
That too would have been an iniquity calling for judgment,
For I would have denied God above.

Linda Harris » Opal E There is a biblical scholar who says that depending upon the writer at that time, some of the Bible could be see as Poetry....
some of what you quote above seems like poetry...and why not? Why should the Bible be seen only as a history book or a set of events written by "the winners"..or the point of view only of the writer?
L

FOWL » Linda Harris Song of Songs and Psalms particularly are straight up poetry books. But really it´s hard to get a sense of outside of the language it was written in... of course the music of the words is lost, and in the hands of transcribers how may or may not have had a poetic sense about them... and even if... you are traying to parse the meaning of something with the music... which in some cases can´t practically be done.

Opal E » Linda Harris 🙂 Laine,

I have read that Job read like a script for a play, and has been performed as one.

Opal E » Linda Harris And yes, why be limited to thinking inside the box, in the book.

Opal E » FOWL If Yoko Ono can get recorded, it can’t be worse.

FOWL » Opal E https://www.youtube.com/watch/…

Opal E » FOWL Ohmmmmuckohmmm

nik$Nite89 Yeah like that story of Jesus miraculously making more fish and bread! He started with two fish, how Piscean is that? It was the story of two fish, five loaves!

Opal E » nik$Nite89 https://www.scientificamerican.com/…

Ergot

Turned water into wine. When you put ergot into water, it is trippy, like being drunk, but not. Five loaves of bread and two fish, would go a long way. This is something that would have been known by the learned.

When you get it in your rye flour, it mimics the black plague, Nostradamus cured the Black Plague by having all the graineries cleaned.

Drink it high. Eat it die.

“As might be expected, it met with incredulous astonishment,” he recalled. They both immediately asked him whether he had made an error in dosage. It was clear to them that no psychotropic substance was known to be that effective at a micro dosage level. The last doubts were erased only when Rothlin and Stoll both cautiously tried dosages of LSD one-third the strength of Hofmann’s trial dose and had nearly as impressive results. In subsequent trials, Hofmann never ingested a comparable dosage again and described 250 micrograms as an “overdose.” He was astonished that the “tripping generation” of the sixties considered his first dosage to be the standard measure."

nik$Nite89 » Opal E Coooool!

sim Indeed! Shit-so-phrenic!!

Opal E » sim Indeed. Science and the use of herbs and drugs is much harder to believe in than miracles.

Jesus was a learned man. He surely could not have been taught the basics of rye and ergot.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passag…

😁

Opal E https://www.biblegateway.com/passag…

A riddle of the sun. Joshua 10: 12-14

King James Version

12 Then spake Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.

13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

14 And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the Lord hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the Lord fought for Israel.