Just a Bunch of Cheap Horaries - Discussions, questions

FOWL » Ana Cerveza Ok... I just cast a horary about it and looks like you will come through for me! Thank you in advance!
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FOWL » stellium12 I have a question, are you currently living with a partner? Or do you have a partner? I´ll tell you why I´m asking.

Ok... so your current home is symbolized by the Sun, the next home will be symbolized by Mercury as it changes signs within the fourth house. So because your significator should have been Mercury, we´ll use the Moon instead for you. The Moon is in the final few minutes of Pisces, so we can take the aspect it WILL make with Mercury into account, but Jupiter is in the way. So we have Mercury perfecting a sextile in 12 years... yikes, that´s a long way away! The Moon is currently ruled by Jupiter, and Jupiter would also be a romantic partner in this chart ruling the descendant... so there´s a puzzle here... is it the partner you specifically want to move away from? If so it appears they will be a block to you moving... or is it that you are about to meet someone else, and if you move in with them, the move could come in 5 years instead of twelve.... trying to figure it out.. there´s a bit of a puzzle there.

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FOWL » FOWL Ok... dug into this a bit more, before you even responded, so what you say obviously will change the interpretation, but what I´m seeing now, whoever is represented by Jupiter, you love, and seems to be mutual, but THEY love the current house. It´s strongly implied that the next place you move into you will hate. So I think the message here is, and the chart shows that where you live now is in bad shape.... it seems to me the message is, you won´t move for many years, and won´t even like it when you do, so perhaps the answer is that you need to put work in fixing up where you currently live.

FOWL » stellium12 Ha! oh WOW! The tenth from the seventh (your wife´s mother) is ALSO the Sun! So it´s not the house you hate... it´s her Mom!
Well... Given your significator is about to move into the exaltation of the Sun.... I think what needs to happen is you need to deal with your issues with the mother, and there is a chance in the very near future, this year specifically, that you can start to enjoy her presence... the interesting thing is that your wife and her mother are sextile, so mainly seeing eye to eye, there appears to be the likelihood that you will come eye to eye with both of them when the Moon conjuncts Jupiter... you have to work on your issues with the wife AND the mother.
Is one of your wife´s siblings in the mix here screwing things up?

FOWL » Ana Cerveza Well the horary I cast was whether you WOULD come back to this thread and let me know how the questions turned out, not if you could change your fate or not... just that you would come back and let me know how it went.

FOWL » stellium12 In twelve years I guess, unless there´s some element to your relationship between your wife and step-mother which could assist that move in six years.

FOWL » stellium12 Thank you so much. I´m really just exploring this technique, so I hope people take it with a grain of salt.. but your horary was a huge step in proving the technique for myself. I want to reiterate, the most pressing thing for me was the indication that you would like the place you move to less than the place you are in now, and that there is work to be done with your family, and house you are in now. That seemed super clear to me, but when that work is done, things could change in numerous ways.... I feel like this horary is relevant for the current situation in your life... but I always believe we can change how things play out for us.

FOWL » stellium12 Both of these questions are a matter of reception and essential dignity.
1. The Sun represents your current house... (and your mother-in-law as we learned! I feel ok within the context of this chart to give them both this significator, as I feel like your displeasure with your current house is related to her), the Sun is in it´s own detriment in Aquarius... it is in bad shape.
2. Your significator is currently at 29:55 degrees Pisces. The significator of the next house is in both it´s detriment AND fall! ( I question this in the long term as I generally use Aquarius as the exaltation of Mercury and Leo as the fall, but for now... I´ll be textbook about horary as much as I can.) So you will HATE the new home. But... the Moon is about to change signs... in Aries, the Sun is exalted! The Sun is your current home. It is in bad shape in detriment.. so it´s obvious.. work on your current house, and you will grow to love it.

FOWL » stellium12 Thank you... this has been my favourite horary chart so far... and is inching me closer to believing in it as a practice and using it seriously.

FOWL » stellium12 Police would consult? wild.

ZynCitrus When will I change job and will it be better for me?

If you have time I would appreciate that a lot

FOWL » ZynCitrus The chart does not show you changing jobs, I´m sorry.
But it does imply that there are hidden qualities to the job you are currently in that you need to explore and uncover. (antiscion of your signifier the Moon conjunct Part of Fortune.)

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(dragonfly) Fowl, I have a question, this time concerning me :-) I´d appreciate your help.

I have found a cat that my husband would absolutely love to have. He is determined to buy this one, but I have some doubts. Because of past experiences, I´m afraid that we will end up with a pet with health problems again. Will this cat be healthy? Or, if I buy this one, can I start saving a fortune for his medical treatment right away?

I´m not going to rely just on astrology in this matter. I asked the breeder for all the health certificates I could think of. On paper everything is ok, but I still have doubts. Especially since the breeder is from abroad and we communicate in broken Polish.

What do you think?

FOWL » (dragonfly) Here´s how I see it Dragonfly... the Cat IS healthy... (signified by Saturn ((lord 6)) dignified in Aquarius, and its own triplicity..) but... your money is in detriment with it... (signified by the Sun, lord 2) and your Sun is IN the seventh house of your partner, ruled by Saturn, in its own detriment. How I see it is that the cat is very healthy, but will still cost you money. Your Sun is in an angular house, so I feel like you can handle the cost, but Saturn is in the later degrees of Aquarius, so it seems like it may die unexpectedly, as it loses its strength at that point, but is no longer in detriment to your money. Perhaps in five months even... but your partner will LOVE the cat, and you´ll think it´s ok. Sort of seems like you should get the cat, but I don´t think it will be THAT expensive.
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(dragonfly) » FOWL Wait, there is a risk that the cat could die even in 5 months? Then what would be the point of buying him?

FOWL » (dragonfly) Love is love! YOUR PARTNER LOVES HIM! hahhaha.... I mean... that could die in 5 months is a stretch. COULD I said... I´m trying to figure out why when his strength changes he stops costing you money, and the cat´s significator IS in the eighth house of death. I have to say this chart isn´t that clear to me, or maybe I´m not thinking clearly today because I cast another chart I´m really puzzling about... but that´s what I can see in this chart. Let me know how it turns out!

rohini moon Where did my normal jovial-mood disappear off too? I am in rare form the last few days. Where did it go?

FOWL » rohini moon Your partner stole it. Or your ex if you don´t currently have a partner. Also... it´s winter. You are literally signified by the Sun here... in the deepest depths of the Sun´s detriment! That was easy! Very literal!
Actually your co-significator, your emotional Moon side, is in the eleventh house... is it a friend that you wish were more?

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rohini moon » FOWL "Your partner stole it."

Ohhhh ain´t that the truth. No more needed to say here..

plumreme Ooh, love this. Also learning. Thank you!

Will I fall in love again? (will it be good for me?) (and if the chart shows, will there be any community input/element/support/strain to this mix?)

I´ve been feeling so settled into being pretty done and in a new stage of life with less romantic intensity and more focus on self/career, but have seen other indications (releasing/transits) that I might have another hit.

FOWL » plumreme What sort of community are you talking about?

plumreme » FOWL Thank you - friends, neighbors (small town, so just whether that will factor in at all, or it will be more private).. not super important, just if it jumps out as a part of the story.

FOWL » plumreme Ok! This is a cool one! I´m getting a clear story here! So you´re signified by Venus, and your future partner is signified by Mars... that´s a nice signifier to begin with! At any rate, it´s shown that you´ll be in a relationship a little bit sooner than 6 months. It´s also implied that you may have already met them! your co-significator the Moon is JUST separating from conjuncting his significator by a few minutes, so this not only implies you´ve just met, but that you have something in common.... what is it? Well lets see, they are both conjunct within Gemini, ruled by Mercury... ok what does Mercury signify? The ninth house which doesn´t really make sense for the question you asked... but Mercury also signifies FRIENDS... this is someone who is either already a friend of yours, or a mutual friend... so will this affect your community? This partner already LOVES your friends!
now to the actual relationship... Your thinking self is Venus, at five degrees of Pisces... So first off, your Venus is ruled by Jupiter, which signifies neighbours in the third house, so we see your concern here, you love your neighbours, or conversely, if not, you are being controlled by their opinions. I hope it´s the first option! You are exalting your own thinking self, and in the tripicity of Mars! Also your own term and exaltation. So the good news here is that you like the guy, and have enough power here to be able to make sure the relationship works for you. You are in control. Your Moon is in the Face of Mars, so again, you like the guy a bit, he´s fine, more of a friend vibe from what I can see here. But your emotions are in the detriment of your neighbours! So maybe you are TOO concerned about what the neighbours think....
His masculine side is in its own detriment... (sun in Aquarius) so I think I have a pretty clear picture here. You´ve got a guy with low self-esteem, not alpha male vibes here, so you aren´t that in to him... but there´s a friendship there at least. Your aspect comes together with a square, so you come together with some difficulty, likely your own reticence to be with him.
From what I can see, it´s likely a nice relationship, but not exactly thrilling, but I don´t really see you getting harmed.

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plumreme » FOWL Wow. and uh oh. and thank you.

I agree it´s pretty clear after you breaking it down - I´d have definitely missed some things, not to mention casting for yourself is questionable. I really, really appreciate this, FOWL!

I should say I´ve been in a "just friends" situation for about 6 months with someone who´d previously been an on and off (somewhat casual and with him kept at something of a distance) romantic thing for three years. I feel nothing anymore (as a result of his behavior), not even dislike, just nothing. My close friends can´t stand him - think he´s obsessed/crazy. He uses his position in the community as a type of power over. I´ve already been harmed here, and if I did it again with this one, i know that would worsen, not improve - this is someone I interact with with the firmest of boundaries (I let up an inch, he´ll take a mile). I hope this is not a "well, you´re going to, despite yourself", because...

I have Pluto moving into opposition with my Sun, thus the concern for (another) controlling situation. My Lot of Eros is releasing in a very interesting manner *right now* (Peak/Active, Active, Active... and LOB, and in a repeat pattern). So I´m happy to hear I´m in control in this situation - Love has always felt very very out of control for me; I´m swept away. And somewhat often by types who are very alpha/dominating. I´m ready to choose differently.

Looks clear I´ll be in *something* - but how will I *feel*? Will I feel bleh about it - or will I fall in love, get my Love Drug, even if it´s not gonna put my soul through a blender with huge thrill? Curious if the question you asked the universe was whether I´ll be in a relationship or whether I´ll fall in love? And if you´re finished with this query, no worries -- just curious philosophically as to how the querent´s and the astrologer´s question/communication impacts outcome. I think it´s the *astrologer´s* understanding of the question that is answered by the chart, rather than the querent´s (if say, for example, "falling love" is querent´s understanding and "in a relationship situation" is astrologer´s), and this could be a way of running a little test on that?

Larger complication, philosophically - I wonder if knowing all of this now, I can undo it. simply recognize it when it appears, say "ahh, you must be he", and run in the opposite direction -- Is that cheating? ha.

I´ll report back. Thank you, FOWL. I think you´re a natural here, even if you´re not a huge fan of divination.

FOWL » plumreme Interesting points. First off, the man you are talking about is clearly not it, the chart shows a weaker man who is in with your friends and community, and also shows you in a position of power to ensure it is a healthy relationship for you.

You may have a point about how I perceived the question versus what you were after. The chart that was cast does not show passionate falling in love... it shows the opportunity for a healthy, but not invigorating relationship. Now that I get more of the story, I can understand why you were asking about friends and neighbours! Oh dear!
See, the Ascendant in this chart represents YOU... it doesn´t represent me. So the way you phrase your question, and the way the astrologer, if they are divinely blessed with the ability to do this (no idea if I am or am not yet, just practicing here) will come to the answer you need regardless. Perhaps my slight misinterpretation of your question gave you the answer you needed. There is a chance at love here in less than 6 months, but you will have to put aside your previous misconceptions about what love is. Separate love from lust, and you have a chance at the sort of relationship which is both good for you, your friends, and your neighbours. Just the fact that you asked the question with that caveat shows you are maturing in a way where you want something healthier.