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Most judgmental/least trusting signs/or sign combinations?
September 24, 2020 at 09:04 (UT/GMT)

Most judgmental/least trusting signs/or sign combinations?
I´m asking this question as I recently had to end a friendship with a Sag/Scorpio after some time as she didn´t stop her critical attitude. Being part Libran this was somewhat difficult but also necessary and easy in the end knowing that better communication/attitude wasn´t coming. I had liked her direct manner and "unrelenting" idealism and genuinely intense emotional responses but it became too much and directed at everyone and she wouldn´t learn how to just become more easy going. Anyway... although this isn´t the only individual I know with this combination and a similar attitude to other people I would like to know what everyone else thinks.
*or placements that could create a higher level of suspicion or distrust
*or placements that could create a higher level of suspicion or distrust

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September 24, 2020 at 09:47

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What planets did she have in Scorpio?
I know someone with Scorpio Moon/Pluto can be kind of rough. Saturn/Moon/Pluto, Moon in Scorpio just by itself.
Mars in Scorpio can be as well depending on the degrees of course and what they aspect. I knew some with Capricorn and Sag that was quite brutal that way.
Sagittarius Sun/Scorpio Moon Can be.
Scorpio Moon/Venus in Scorpio/Mars in Taurus/Juno in Sag.
Uranus in Scorpio/Venus in Scorpio can be a real dick/Sagittarius Sun with Saturn in Virgo.
Saturn in Virgo/Mars in Virgo/Moon in Scorpio/Sag Sun.

September 24, 2020 at 09:47

I really do not think that there is a "sign" or "placement" which would make a person judgmental or least-trusting. People are very complex. It is understandable that you have a bad experience with that friend of yours but whatever placement she had cannot be apply to everyone. In my personal experience I did not get along well with Libra or Leo but I am still keeping an open mind with whoever I meet. Please keep in mind that people are much more than their signs or placement.
thank you, take care :)


September 24, 2020 at 10:14

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Yes, you do have to have open mind since you attract the same energy, but in different combinations and really about maturing, growing, and learning to communicate more effectively. Learning how to use your personal power more in a balanced weigh instead of staying in lower consciousness and fighting and arguing all the time about anything and everything. Choosing your battles wisely.
But there are certain archetypes and planets that influence certain behaviors, but you always have a choice how you use that energy in an unhealthy or healthy way in relationships.


September 24, 2020 at 10:39

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Mercury Conjunct Mars might be one.
https://darkstarastrology.com/mercu…

September 24, 2020 at 12:44

Mars in 3rd likes to interfere with the business of other people even if they have not that right.
Virgo ascendants... They can be sometimes unnecessarily harsh and inconsiderate to others, highly judgemental, I can not say they are dishonest.
Pluto and Lilith in 3rd house... They know how to trick you, use words as weapons. Latter words are also valid for Mercury/Mars conjunction but they´re not that bad as long as someone doesn´t mess with them.


September 24, 2020 at 13:02

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I rarely get into people´s business with Mars in the 3rd. I don´t even hang out with a lot of people intentionally because I´m Introvert. If I do interfere it´s only if it´s a situation that harms others in severe way. I don´t even talk on the phone. Usually, I do stay out of other people´s business since it is the two individuals karma and dharma being worked out. Once in awhile some people do need a third person to mediate for certain reasons.
I technically don´t even like conflict! So may be dependent on whether they´re Extroverted I guess with Mars in Scorpio in the 3rd, or some other archetype like Mars in Gemini, Mars in Aquarius, Mars in Libra being Air signs. Maybe Mars in Aries because they love the conflict once in awhile. Mars in Leo kind of loves to start drama at times.

September 24, 2020 at 14:01

I myself have Mars in Cancer in 7th and still have difficulty taming it. It is also weird that its conjunction to Sun and North Node make things more difficult.

September 24, 2020 at 14:09

Interesting...I have Scorpio Moon and I think it often works like a lie detector

On the other hand I hava Mercury trine Neptune and I know that lying comes very easy to me. Of course I am adult and I can control it, but in the past I could do that even for fun




>"Pluto and Lilith in 3rd house... They know how to trick you, use words as weapons."
I agree with it in 100%. Pluto in 3rd house is such a tricky placement.
But it depends on which side you look from...
Pluto as a planet has such a bad reputation, it seems to me that most people looking at its placements in chart associate it with problems/struggle. The way someone deals with it is another, more complex thing, but thinking : "Pluto = problems" it seems that Pluto in 3rd is still softer than other placements and in my opinion it is one of the better placements if you own it, of course...Worse if you have to deal with them...
I understand what you mean - a conversation with someone who always tries to trap you, often even treat every conversation as a battle to win. That attitude is almost comical and meaningless for me, sorry...I agree with you - people with Pluto in 3rd can use words as if it was a game of chess

Mars in 3rd? I don´t know anything about that placement, really...


September 24, 2020 at 14:17

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Maybe so. I have always been kind of into the tools, methods, techniques, and possibly influenced by relatives since age 13. And while might have been a bit more wild during Saturn in Aquarius, kind of mellowed out in Saturn in Pisces when I had my child and just kept working on stuff, because I didn´t want to pass emotional and mental patterns on to them. Which has paid off when I see them now in 2020.
Maybe channeling that energy a lot into writing because I write a lot every day! Always been a prolific writer of some sort.


September 24, 2020 at 14:23

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Uranus opposition Mercury I know can be quite brutal with arguments, loves to start stuff!

September 24, 2020 at 20:32



September 24, 2020 at 20:54

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Many Gemini placements are difficult, prone to lying. Mercury Gemini just saying.

September 24, 2020 at 21:35



Taurus sun in 9th,mercury in aries,virgo asc..
Everything aside,i seriously hate lie,and liars,HATE.
(Not just in a way that every person will normally..)
At the same time,cant manage to lie..
Wouldnt say im a good manipulator,you need to be cold and patient,wait for the time and stab the knife with your words. If i think something i will put it into words instantly and purely,sometimes even naively


September 24, 2020 at 21:37



September 24, 2020 at 21:49

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I kind of thought I wasn´t sure about Taurus Sun either, since I have kid with Sag Ascendant, Jupiter in Sag, and Moon in Sag, Mercury in Gemini, and I always taught him to tell the truth no matter what they did, and I know last year there was mail box hit on accident. No problem telling the person. So, I think Taurus Sun isn´t necessarily accurate, depends on how you teach your children right from the start about honesty, and not making them feel guilty, shame, or blame for making mistakes, or being themselves, and just teach them to be honest, and talk about about why it was wrong, and never had a rebellious child doing it that way like other people who try to control their kid, threaten them, intimidate, and scared them to death for making mistakes.
I think people lie, because they´ve been conditioned to believe it´s not okay to speak their authentic truth, be themselves, make mistakes, fail, and often get abused for making mistakes. And then they lie because they fear getting into trouble or getting abused again. So, they go hide what they´re doing.

September 24, 2020 at 22:08

Just because you met one Scorpio/Sagittarius who was like this doesn´t necessarily mean another one would be. house placements, aspects and conjunctions could be nothing alike..
That being said, I don´t know what sign is the most judgmental but having Saturn exalted would make a person very judgmental, but In the correct manner. Just and fair. Balanced. But still Judging, if that arrangement lands in your first house - they would make a top notch judge

September 24, 2020 at 22:12




September 24, 2020 at 22:33

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That´s also the truth. I always say what you do behind the scenes is more important then face value. You usually feel guilty when you are doing something you know you shouldn´t be doing.
But we all have human nature and a shadow side and screw up time to time. I never met anyone who didn´t lie.
There are times we use White lies just to be polite. Sometimes people dress bad, have body odor, bad make up, bad hair and we might have to work with them or go to school. Lol
I used to laugh sometimes when church ladies would gossip.
All you can do is try your best to be honest as much as possible. It is just the natural process we go through.
Although there are some who are chronic liars and deliberately lie. While some have mental disorders.
So you really have to pay attention to why someone would lie. I mean a lawyer tells you to protect yourself. A domestic violence counselor as well to protect self and children.
Police go under cover.
It is quite interesting to look at different angles why someone may lie. Even as a health care worker I had to say I cannot admit or deny I help this person.

September 25, 2020 at 00:36


If she is your mother, you´re lucky indeed. As an ex boyfriend, they are terrible!

September 25, 2020 at 00:41

Such a great phrase. No doubt you know how to stab people verbally with that Aries Mercury and Mercury/Lilith opposition lol

September 25, 2020 at 00:55

Oh, I have always dreamed of encountering an evolved Scorpio Moon in my life, you can be the one

"Mercury - Neptune aspects has many other disadvantages and because I´ve met many people with these aspects (squares,sextiles,oppositions), I must admit that Mercury - Neptune are one of the least favorite aspects, especially



Even the conjunction of it is truly problematic. I know someone with that aspect trying to make all classmates love him constantly, and even he even lies to reach his purpose, do everything to be respected by others.
Of course he is an Aquarius Sun, Leo Moon and Virgo Ascendant. Mercury in Aquarius and Mars in Pisces... Yikes

Actually Pluto in 3rd, if used correctly, may give talent in literature. Just a theory.
Mars in 3rd is hard to deal with, I associate it with Mercury/Mars conjunction because they like each other a lot as far as I observed. May be highly critical, hurtful and sharp-tongued if not directed in a good way.

September 25, 2020 at 01:08

A wise thing to do use that energy for literature indeed, good for the tireless nature of Mars.



September 25, 2020 at 07:53

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What about Mercury Trine Neptune? Also prone to lying?

September 25, 2020 at 19:40

But if there are Sun or Mars aspecting to Neptune, I approach suspiciously.

September 26, 2020 at 08:23

*just looking up her chart again, I don´t know if any of these aspects are relevant but she seems to have a lot of squares + planetary aspects between Pluto, Saturn and chiron
Mercury Square Saturn
Mercury Conjunction Pluto
Saturn Square Pluto
Jupiter Sextile Chiron
Sun Square Chiron
Saturn Square Ascendant
Venus Conjunction Pluto
Mars Sextile Saturn
Sun Conjunction Mars
Moon Trine Mars
Venus Square Chiron
Venus Square Saturn

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