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Placidus or Whole signs?.. which to use?
September 6, 2020 at 11:29 (UT/GMT)

Placidus or Whole signs?.. which to use?
I still haven´t decided on which to use. Which do you prefer and why? The whole sign system is the traditional one right?

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September 6, 2020 at 12:19



I was advised to begin with Placidus simply because of the enormous amount of information available, even just online, due to its popularity. This makes study easier. I am inclined towards WS, so I will probably do that in the end.

September 6, 2020 at 12:36

The primary difference I have noted is that using the former I have Jupiter in the 12th and with whole signs it´s in the first. Being in the first almost seems to make sense as it´s in libra and in conjunction to the ascendant as well but other than that..
Can I ask why your inclined towards the whole sign system?

September 6, 2020 at 12:41





September 6, 2020 at 12:53

Also I´m assuming being near chiron in the same house is BAD and undermines that possible placement 🤤
It´s good to hear someone else´s interpretation of their own chart using ws. Ahh so you don´t like Pluto being in the 12th? I don´t know I think being in the 11th could equally distribute the same energy just in a different location

September 6, 2020 at 12:56

In my chart at least, I´ve found whole signs to be more accurate in displaying external events.
In whole signs, Saturn rules my 4th house, and is in the 9th house. I lived in another country for a while, and for most of my life, it was like a "second home", even when I returned to my country of origin. (Saturn is also in Gemini.) Even now, I live someplace that can be considered "far away" from where I was born, although it´s in the same country.
Placidus seems more accurate to me in terms of reflecting physiological factors.
In Placidus I have my moon in the 4th; in whole signs, it´s in the 5th. Psychologically, I´m definitely a 4th house moon, without question.
However... I do have a kid. There´s nothing really in my Placidus chart that would indicate that. Empty 5th house, barren sign ruling it. Having the moon in the 5th, as it is in whole signs, seems to be more of an indicator of children...although I´ve seen people with not much going on in the 5th house who have kids... So...
Sorry I couldn´t be of more help in aiding your decision... I just personally find value in both systems.
And of course, which house system to use is a personal decision. It should be what works for us.

September 6, 2020 at 13:10


Anni, the final nail in the Placidus coffin for me was seeing the chart the other day of someone born way up north - that looked like a joke, really. In WS all is symmetrical and symmetry soothes my soul


September 6, 2020 at 13:14


However I have been thinking recently that planets in the 12th house can be turned into positives and people shouldn´t override potential positives with the possible negatives. Pluto in the 12th afterall could be a strong position for you ☺

September 6, 2020 at 13:26



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September 7, 2020 at 04:50

E.g. using placidus my Jupiter in libra is in the 12th in Virgo, but using whole signs it rejoins the Libra house that it´s sign belongs to rather than being under the rule of Virgo

September 7, 2020 at 04:54



September 7, 2020 at 07:35




September 7, 2020 at 12:47


September 7, 2020 at 14:35


My method is conclusion from how works your planet and this fits which house..but i believe sometimes two houses can affect that. Houses are always problematic subject in astrology and i already solved this problem. Because there is not certain solution about this problem.


September 7, 2020 at 18:41

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There are many house systems. Try using harmonics. No prob with house divisions. Plenty of books written. All you need is Ascendant and MC.


September 7, 2020 at 18:56

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The reason why I don´t use whole sign is that it doesn´t allow me to be both a Libra rising AND a Libra 12th house Sun.
It says I´m a 1st house Sun and to most people that know me, they would understand why that doesn´t make much sense.
A lot of nuance is lost with Whole sign and I can´t give you a better reason other than it doesn´t really resonate for me to view it that way.
I´m more inclined to use Prophyry than Whole Sign. Prophyry is used in Evolutionary Astrology and I resonate with most of EA....so I´m open to the idea it might be relevant. But whole sign......I see no good arguments for it.

September 7, 2020 at 21:47

I´ve used placidus and whole sign for synastry and the one that makes more sense to me in my current relationship is the whole sign synastry.
Experiment with both and keep an open mind to all house systems. Just take it all with a grain of salt. It\´s fun to try different house systems and see which resonate best. I like the theory that whole sign resonates more with how outer evens affect us, and that placidus is how our inner world is affected.

December 29, 2021 at 04:10

"A lot of nuance is lost with Whole sign and I can´t give you a better reason other than it doesn´t really resonate for me to view it that way."
This.

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