hot femme fatale´s aspects - Discussions, questions

Marc Sales Moon in Scorpio in bad aspects to the ruler of 1, Venus or the signifier of the VII, VIII or V house ...

beep def scorpio or lilith in 1st house
scorpio rising not exactly sexiext gal but still ends up somehow being the ugly duckling attracting hot dudes whether she likes it or not and lilith 1st actually manifests the energy

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Juno, who´s symbol is a sextile above a little cross, is supersexual, and can be a deciding factor as important as .

Fallen_Mage ...Sounds like a hot mess of issues if you ask me. If you really wanna look at it from an astrological perspective, I´d say check for nasty aspects from the usual suspects: Lilith, Pluto and Neptune.

Morena_Lu I think placements:
(moon in scorpio, venus in scorpio) or tough pluto aspects to feminine planets (moon conjunct pluto, venus square pluto, etc...) could be femme fatal or could be deeply transformative and empowering- it all depends on how you work with the shadow energy activated by the placement or aspect. Also i would definitely look at the 3 liliths (black moon lilith, dark moon lilith and asteroid lilith) and fixed star Algol. Dark moon especially as it is exclusively about the shadow of the dark feminine.

Anyone with Venus-Neptune or Neptune in 1st has a certain j´nais cest quoi for milking desire out of others ~ Neptune entices by reflecting what the admirer/victim wants to see in the person.
Or, our own Neptune allows us to be "taken by" another..

And another thing about Femme Fatale I think is confidenece, and absolute comfort with herself, and I think both of these qualities manifesting with age.
So a woman to be called Femme Fatale is more likely would be in their late 20s- or 30s and older
I cant imagine young 17 year girl to be Femme Fatale...
its about very appealing mature feminity and confidence...

ram_goat » Morena_Lu And another thing about Femme Fatale I think is confidenece, and absolute comfort with herself, and I think both of these qualities manifesting with age.
So a woman to be called Femme Fatale is more likely would be in their late 20s- or 30s and older
I cant imagine young 17 year girl to be Femme Fatale...
its about very appealing mature feminity and confidence...

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I´ll say this twice for emphasis..
Right on, Morena..

Morena_Lu » ram_goat "I pedaled as fast as I could... as if I were escaping from longing, from innocence, from her. Time has passed, and I have loved many women. And as they´ve held me close... and asked if I will remember them I´ve said, "Yes, I will remember you." But the only one I´ve never forgotten is the one who never asked... Malena."


Malena or Monica was 36 there..



She is still irresistible.

Nola_la » Morena_Lu Monica

That movie was made for Her

I have "Malena" in my movie collection

Morena_Lu » Nola_la "That movie was made for Her "

Yes, I thought the same..


I really like that picture you posted, somehow I really understand that type of woman..

Apart from her truly majestic elegance, Monica Bellucci invests her character with an aura of tragedy, of some profound and unrelenting emotional trauma and pain which remains unspoken throughout the film and reaches its climax at the very end. Malena´s stunningly beautiful eyes remain constantly downcast, and her face -- tense and pierced through by psychic pain (she rarely raises her face, let alone speaks words)..


And the ending..what a masterpiece!



I also liked Natalie in "Closer"...

RohiniMoon Well, hot toddy!

I´m waiting to hear what you have come up with.

Cmon, don´t be coy!

TimeLord What about people with Venus Mars Conjunction very close to Angles ?

stigmí » Morena_Lu Just note....Monica has nothing to do with pluto/scorpio. But she has moon venus and mars in Leo. And this is what i feel as very atractive. But this is another type of atraction. For example Venus of scorpio is building her values on sex-appeal. Venus in Leo is simply queen x)

There is good question what make femme fatale from ordinary woman in her character.

Morena_Lu » stigmí She has 8th house stelium(Scorpio house)

Her / / in in the 8th house

She is ASC

Pluto trine Ascendant orb +5°09´
Mercury trine Ascendant orb -5°41´
Jupiter trine Ascendant orb +5°44´
Neptune sextile Ascendant orb +3°49´
Uranus trine Ascendant orb +7°49

I think that her beauty is very Plutonic if you ask me. ;)

SimonG » ram_goat I agree its confidence but nit so wholistic... i think its cinfidence in their power over someone. Unfortunately this tends to be stronger in young people in their unbalanced relationships with each other. So i think with age especially past the saturn return, the femme fatale becomes more and more exposed and analysed in public and has to retreat.

stigmí » Morena_Lu Of course...I know something about 8th house x)
So we should believe her...

Anyway, I think that scorpio aspects are not enough to make whole picture. Because it cant prove that this woman want to show it in extrovert way and that her self-confidence is real.

I read somewhere that femme fatale is combination of fire element and the role has also midpoint of asc venus. I didnt analyze it...

Morena_Lu » stigmí Well, the best way is to see what all fatal woman have in common.

Still, I think that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, maybe what is attractive to me will not be to you..:)


Maybe we should ask men what they think about this topic.

stigmí » Morena_Lu

Milami I attract men like crazy, and I dont say that to brag or something stupid as that, it is very hard for me,everyone looks at me like a peace of meat, not for Who I really am, my pisces moon try to find deeper conection with People but I cant cause Im Just "preety"in their eyes and nothing else they want to discover about me.I dont talk about men attraction only, this is happening with all People i meet. Lilith in 1st in taurus, pluto in 8th in scorpio, jupiter in scorpio, Venus in gemini

Morena_Lu » Milami Sometimes being a femme fatale is not easy..:)
Another scenario is when beauty alone can create the accidental femme fatale. In other words, the women don´t do anything intentional to create the situation. It is the people their beauty attract that fall under their own dangerous neptune spell. Some people will do anything for pretty face. At first you would think that an angular venus would be involved, but different people find different things beautiful so I guess any women could potentially be a femme fatale to certain people..;)

Milami » Morena_Lu Exactly,its hard I dont do anything to attrackt them, but i´ve noticed that I attrackt gemini men, and in general People with sun in 12th house, fiery moons..

Morena_Lu » Milami I hope that it will be better with time, you will for sure find a way to deal with that..:))
My professor used to say to my class-"You should all be happy because you are ordinary, there is no happiness with great beauty."

We did Anna Karenina at that moment, and we all know ending of that story..


Maybe we should examine natal chart of this tragic beauty..

"She was a girl who knew how to be happy even when she was sad. And that’s important—you know"
Marilyn Monroe

Nola_la » Morena_Lu I don´t know if this is the picture I like best . I added it here because it is very meaningful - one scene and a look that says more than words.

I want to watch this movie again...Tornatore´s films have a hint of nostalgia - here I am captivated by the image of Sicily (still beautiful despite the war), music, colours.

It´s not easy to choose the best picture - can´t decide because you can find so many beautiful pics in that movie

EDIT : And of course I like "Closer", what a great movie of Mike Nichols...

Nola_la » stigmí >"Monica has nothing to do with pluto/scorpio."

I disagree...

>" For example Venus of scorpio is building her values on sex-appeal. Venus in Leo is simply queen x)"

But I agree with that in 100%

Morena_Lu » Nola_la Monica, she is always beautiful..even when she is sad.:))

I adore his movies, "Cinema Paradiso" is maybe his best one, every time I watch it ..I discover something new. It makes you laugh and it makes you cry, yet it is so simple and straightforward. Maybe there lies its magic: no Hollywood superstars, no special effects, just pure emotions and feelings, love, fear, grief and regret, nostalgia for childhood and youth, memories of places and times that will not come back, memories of the loved ones. Some movies are there to entertain, some to scare, some to question...

This movie is there to affect your feelings.

MarvinReal You´re 24yo female living in Toronto, interested in women?

Also, your description of femme fatale sounds more like a hooker type which are rarely attractive women.

All of this seems crazy to me.

Btw: Morena_Lu mentioned Marilyn Monroe, https://bit.ly/31Xz23x and I previously said that she was just an average looking woman who just became famous in acting, while others didn´t, and who has similar body to most of you. I know it´s astounding statement, but anyway. She has lunar nakshatra of Dhanishtha of Aquarius Rashi ruled by Saturn, while Nakshatra Lord is Mars. This Nakshatra was mentioned as the very least likely to become a porn star, and very less likely to become a serial killer. Although she has had a very fiery Venus in Aswini, which has strong tendencies towards serial killing, but very low towards porn. Luckily her Ascendant is Ashlesha in Cancer Rashi of Moon, and Lord of Nakshatra Mercury. She got Mars in Purva Bhadra of Aquarius Rashi, and Rahu in Punarvasu.

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Edit: True BML exact ASC in Cancer. Moon in Capricorn in 7th. Venus Chiron in Aries in 10th. Mars in 8th is very inauspicious too. So yeah, wild life, abuse and suicide. Pluto conjunct Sirius. Sun and Mercury conjunct Aldebaran. An exceptional chart.