The Astrology of the U.S. 2020 Presidential elections. Who do you think will win? And why?

December 12, 2019 at 08:20 (UT/GMT)
(Taurus) Iceblu333
The Astrology of the U.S. 2020 Presidential elections. Who do you think will win? And why?
Who do you think will win based on the transits and what you possibly see. And why.

It will be interesting to get a good perspective.

Let´s try to keep things strictly astroligical... well see how that goes...

Have at it!!!

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December 12, 2019 at 08:29
(Taurus) Iceblu333
In my opinion, I thought I knew the answer before but looking at Trumps and his competitions charts... I have no clue who will win.

Bloomberg after the 2020 elections begins his Sadi Sati period... or his period of losses, 12th house energy...

Hillary Clinton after the 2020 elections also begins her period of sadi sati.

Joe Biden will also begin his sadi sati period but later by a few months to a few years...

Bidens chart:…

Something has to happen to trigger sadi sati and it could be good or bad... Maybe they win but there is the karmic price of saturn... but Saturn is the Karaka of 12,8 and 6. So they may lose... badly

But the weird thing is that they all have a close moon aspect. Their moons are in Piscies or aries... so Saturn will be 12th from moon when in Aquarius...


Trump however will have Saturn enter his 6th house, but it is 3rd from the moon... meaning he will isolate himself from communication. Due to loss of election? sickness maybe?

Or maybe he begins to completely focus on work... 6th house. So he isolates himself and works isolated...

Any one want to share their opinions?
December 12, 2019 at 10:27
System message: Post has been written by user MarvinReal, who already deleted profile on this website:
When was Czech presidential election, the sick president regained again, partly because of public sympathy with his weakness.

Being re-elected is happening statistically more often.

Today are elections in the U.K. :5: Creeps are expected to win majority. Go ahead! :4:
December 12, 2019 at 11:01
(Libra) leorising
i ve seen a analysis of a astrologer that Trump will be reelect...
for predictions i believe you need to look at progressed birth chart... and to compare with birth chart of USA progressed too
December 12, 2019 at 14:29
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » leorising
Thanks, do you have the link to thier analysis?
December 12, 2019 at 15:07
(Libra) leorising » Iceblu333
its a video in portuguese...…

the president´s birth chart must be compatible with the united states birth chart

this astrologer its Maricy Vogel , she hit the trump election forecast when no one said that ...

This astrologer believes that Trump has a team of astrologers, as he chooses where to spend his birthdays that favor his transits for next year (solar revolution).
December 12, 2019 at 15:19
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » leorising
Thanks I´ll look into it,
predicting Trumps was going to win in 2016 was easy, there was a lot of trines that were in his career houses...

This time however... saturn is aspecting his 6th house/3rd from the moon... or isolation due to Saturn conjuncting his 6th house right after the elections or the first of 2021...

So I thought he might lose... but then again, all of his rivals start Sadi Sati... so I don´t know... maybe something happens that is so corrupt he isolates himself and tries to take down the corruption through working...

Maybe he gets sick...6th/3rd... this time things are more confusing.

And with what is shown in Nov 3, 2024... that Pluto Mars opposition looks nasty...

I just don´t know...
December 12, 2019 at 15:22
(Libra) leorising » Iceblu333
i have saturn in my 6th house transiting .. my 6th house cusp is cappricorn
...In my job I´m doing more difficult tasks. I had to wait a long time for this, if I had entered the "system" here in the same month would already doing this tasks more difficult ... but I decided to wait and I was already called for this new stage here ... (last month)

i ve looked at trump´s birth chart, his 6th house is aqquarius... he will have a long time to reach the part of the suffering in this area of his life
December 12, 2019 at 15:25
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » leorising
That would make sense... isolation due to more demanding work tasks...

But why does all of his competition begin Sadi Sati? They all have similar moon placements...

Does he begin investigating them I wonder?
December 12, 2019 at 15:26
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » leorising
I also forgot, Trump is in his Saturn dasa period... Any aspect Saturn makes will be extremely strong... it will manifest something saturnian...
December 12, 2019 at 15:29
(Libra) leorising » Iceblu333
saturn in cancer with venus...
in my opinion trump will be reelect...
his 6th house is aqquarius... he could be suffering in facts about his 5th house...

Birth chart of independence of USA…

Now i understand why i liked so much USA, my ascendant is in north node of USA (Leo)
December 12, 2019 at 15:30
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » leorising
Ok, I hope it´s not sickness... you never know...
December 12, 2019 at 15:44
(Libra) leorising » Iceblu333
using, i could see positive transits for TRUMP:

The truth works * Pluto opposition Saturn: * Mid-March 2019 until end of November 2021:

People at their best * Jupiter trine Ascendant: * A transit approaching its end, from 28 November 2019, remaining until 7 December 2019:

Mind the details * Jupiter opposition Mercury: * From 6 January 2020 until 15 January 2020:

A material peak * Saturn opposition Saturn: * From 13 January 2020 until 30 January 2020:

Impending shortages * Jupiter square Jupiter: * Mid-February 2020 until beginning of October 2020:

Danger of misjudgment * Jupiter opposition Saturn: * Mid-March 2020 until end of November 2020:
December 12, 2019 at 15:47
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » leorising
We will see, I just feel that its wierd for his opponents to begin Sadi Sati after the elections... all 3 of the main opponents...
December 12, 2019 at 16:34
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » MarvinReal
No offense, but I didn´t consider him.

He´s not as dangerous to me as the other 3

I´ll look for his chart now
December 12, 2019 at 16:37
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » MarvinReal
He has an Aries moon like Biden....

Bernie Sanders chart:…

They are all similar... Bernie goes into Sadi Sati the same time Biden does...

This is really wierd...
December 12, 2019 at 16:38
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » MarvinReal
Dangerous = able to beat Trump.

But in Every case, all of their 12th from moon houses are about to be hit by Saturn within that year or the next 2... its crazy...

I think he may actually win, even with all of this bad press...

I mean all of them... losses. But I´m still unsure... they say you need 3 signs to predict something...
December 12, 2019 at 16:45
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » MarvinReal
If anyone were to win, it will be Biden or Sanders astroligically... because of the house placements.

Saturn will actually be in their 10th from moon... but in the years to come they will go into Sadi sati...
Saturn owns the 10th house naturally... but Saturn has to do its job which is to limit... either Saturn will crystallize their career or stifle it...

Maybe that lines up with the Nov 3, 2024, transit...

Thanks for pointing that out.

So I´m still unsure, who´ll win.
December 12, 2019 at 17:34
(Libra) leorising
a naive question ... does changing a president greatly affect your life?
December 12, 2019 at 17:52
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » leorising
Yes, because of Obamacare there were budget cuts at my first job Truckstop. I lost my job due to budget cuts because if I worked a certain amount of hours they had to provide health insurance...

I did not vote in 2016 because I´m Pro-choice and am for planned parenthood, and for trans people being allowed in the military.

Trump is against all of that, which is why I did not vote.

This time I will vote Trump due to the fact that he´s focusing on the finances of people.

My choice is simple Democrats made me lose my way of living for 8 years.

Trump is focusing on removing what was done. But I don´t love him.

He´s made a lot of idiotic moves, so him being impeached and replaced by Pence via impeachment... I don´t know the result. But I feel safer with a devil I know than don´t know.

I´m neither Republican nor Democrat. I´m for everyone having the best comfortable life for everyone.

If things kept going how they were going, Social security would be no more. We needed financial changes.

I´ve seen the tricks of the government, with the student debt crisis. The government actually wants to keep that because it stimulates the economy.

A house sale? You will never own that house. Will pay taxes on it until you die.

No one can live self sustainably, because there are so many ways that you are stuck working 9/5 paying debts. You people don´t even have time to think, which is why people only glance at the news.

They are worried about debts the Government created to stimulate the economy...

Everyone is in a rat race.

But I digress,

Democrats win? You lose your Guns, your personal rights, and you are forced to pay for ridiculous ideas that fail. The lottery makes billions extra with each ticket sale and they say the extra money goes towards education. Well if that´s true, why is there so much student debt.

That money could be going to financing free health insurance. But no....

Republicans Win? There´s usually a war and a dumbass President (Bush) who causes problems just to keep power for a little longer... or to become rich-er.

Lose lose situation.
December 12, 2019 at 18:32
(Taurus) » Iceblu333
System message: Post has been written by user MarvinReal, who already deleted profile on this website:
We all know that U.S. is hell on earth. I spoke with several Americans, women and men. Well, in Europe at least something is for free and taxes are actually lower despite government giving you more. Now I complain anyway, but could be worse. Countries when total deductions about 60% and rest is eaten by housing, food, leisure, forget about health insurance, you would pray to die asap. :4:
December 12, 2019 at 21:51
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » MarvinReal
Ha, it´s not terrible if you´re rich.

The working class gets bent... And rode hard. Lol
December 13, 2019 at 19:12
(Taurus) » Iceblu333
System message: Post has been written by user MarvinReal, who already deleted profile on this website:
The Conservative Party (UK) won landslide majority today, highest since 1970. :3:

All London boroughs voted mostly for Labour and Liberal Democrats.

Again, the same divide like previously.

Now I am paying out £1,500 till midnight and another sum must leave soon so politics don´t bother me at all. :13:

How are you?
December 13, 2019 at 20:13
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » MarvinReal
The Impeachment will fail in the senate... But alot of secrets are about to come out... This is gonna drag on for a long time.

The senate has been waiting for this. And I believe Trump secretly wanted this outcome as well...

There will be a hearing in the senate and it will not end well for the democrats...

I wonder how the news media will try to change the narrative.
December 13, 2019 at 20:15
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » MarvinReal
This will drag on until the elections,probably.

But I really wonder if this will help Trump or hurt him.

That Saturn transiting the 6th or 3rd from moon is concerning...
December 14, 2019 at 13:10
(Pisces) fishscales
Word to the wise

No matter how great you think your astrological political predictions are, don´t get too confident and do something crazy...
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