Death chart (without time)

November 29, 2019 at 17:47 (UT/GMT)
(Virgo) MarvinReal
Death chart (without time)
When my grandfather became widower in 1985, he luckily met this woman and they were together until he died in 2003. Today she died as well.

Birth: August 4, 1930
Death: November 29, 2019

Rest in peace, Markéta!

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November 29, 2019 at 17:55
(Virgo) MarvinReal
I don´t know even time of death. If I manage to find out that information, I add it.

I put 12:00 p.m. hypothetically for birth and death. No houses system.

Inner wheel is date of birth. Outer wheel is today´s transits.
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November 29, 2019 at 18:09
(Virgo) MarvinReal » MarvinReal
I see it
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November 29, 2019 at 18:33
(Taurus) IIyyaarr13 » MarvinReal
People born with :176: :159: were never common & are getting harder and harder to come by! :24: :8:
November 29, 2019 at 18:35
(Pisces) TimeSciences » MarvinReal
Implying that when :160: eventually opposes natal :160: and likewise :156: very high to 100% probability of end of life? With :156: being associated with medical conditions in medical astrology including diabetes and/or obesity, do you know if she had either or both of these conditions?
Also, :159: is opposite natal :159: If anyone else reading here can give a thorough medical astrology analysis that would be great!
November 29, 2019 at 18:38
(Virgo) MarvinReal » MarvinReal
She survived many months after the last Saturn Return.

Perhaps that was when we had very little communication with her and she started to deteriorate. The same like other elders. Now the only one remaining alive.
November 29, 2019 at 19:25
(Virgo) MarvinReal » TimeSciences
A cause of death I don´t know, but my relatives visited her less than three months ago and she looked healthy and strong.

That Neptune-Neptune is not exact, but it was definitely undergoing opposition in last few months or this year.
November 29, 2019 at 19:35
(Virgo) MarvinReal » IIyyaarr13
You´re right. She may have been Virgo rising. In that case, Neptune would transits through her 7th house.
November 29, 2019 at 19:45
(Virgo) MarvinReal » MarvinReal
She briefly experienced also Uranus Return.

Only those who live beyond 84 years can have it in their lifetime.

... That´s why I always felt that :156: :157: :199: are more important for human lifespan than :159: :160: and yet to be discovered Planet Nine. Nobody can ever experience Neptune Return or Pluto Return.
November 29, 2019 at 23:21
(Taurus) Morena.Lu
"When my grandfather became widower in 1985, he luckily met this woman and they were together until he died in 2003."

No matter how long it takes, true love is always worth the wait.
It´s a wonderful story.
November 30, 2019 at 12:31
(Sagittarius) GoldenLion5
Sorry to hear of your loss. I believe this is what just happen with my Aunt as well I noticed the Neptune opposition Neptune, Capricorn Pluto opposition Cancer Pluto, and Jupiter in Sagittarius Return. Although, she was Saturn in Pisces. That time of year like you said.
November 30, 2019 at 14:04
(Virgo) MarvinReal » GoldenLion5
Thanks. I say that most of my dead relatives have very significant death charts, or very significant synastry of their death towards my birth. But I noticed that some death charts of strangers almost lacking indicators of death. Can be death of anyone so insignificant towards their own birth charts?
November 30, 2019 at 14:16
(Virgo) MarvinReal » Morena.Lu
It´s so romantic I know :6: :76:
November 30, 2019 at 16:10
(Taurus) Morena.Lu » MarvinReal
:1:
November 30, 2019 at 17:11
(Sagittarius) GoldenLion5 » MarvinReal
Oh my...maybe I should make that a plot in a story. Husband dies and limo driver is her true love. :) Candle light dinner in the grave yard! :) :61:
November 30, 2019 at 17:31
(Aquarius) nikkia » MarvinReal
I´m sorry for your loss, Marvin.

You raise an interesting question: Gets deep quick.

**Can be death of anyone so insignificant towards their own birth charts?**

Can the natural death of a elderly person be unremarkable? I think so - especially if ´long´ life is indicated in the natal.

Maybe, the Time of Death isn´t as significant in natural deaths as it is when the death process actually begins.... just a thought.

I think the manner of death is easier to see, retrospectively.

Some people just go easy.
Not seeing death in transit gives me a sense of peace for them and me.
November 30, 2019 at 18:49
(Aries) nutelina
I´m sorry to hear that Marvin! Good luck to you and your family. :62:
November 30, 2019 at 18:53
(Virgo) MarvinReal » GoldenLion5
That sounds like BML in Capricorn! :69:
November 30, 2019 at 18:56
(Virgo) MarvinReal » nikkia
Very philosophical as all Aquarius women :35:
November 30, 2019 at 19:01
(Virgo) MarvinReal » nutelina
She lived long and happy life surrounded by the loved ones, what else to wish? Lot of grandchildren. Guys from Krkonoše mountain are probably more productive and women more fertile. Perhaps the fresh air, cold weather, occasional landslides and avalanches makes people used to on hard life. Including toilets without water and dozens of animals on each farmhouse. I´ve born in the gate to Krkonoše. Does it count?
November 30, 2019 at 19:35
(Gemini) Sinem
God rest your grandfather´s soul. :68:
November 30, 2019 at 19:37
(Taurus) Morena.Lu » Sinem
I think he died in 2003.
November 30, 2019 at 19:44
(Gemini) Sinem » Morena.Lu
Don´t you think "god" can protect the soul of someone who died in 2003? I think you should think broad.
November 30, 2019 at 19:55
(Taurus) Morena.Lu » Sinem
Of course, I just thought that you misunderstood because he was talking about his wife. :1:
November 30, 2019 at 19:59
(Virgo) MarvinReal » Sinem
Yes, my step grandmother died in 2019. Children (my father included) were born only during marriage with grandmother. Thank you for mentioning him as well. ... By the way, your comment how to deal with Virgo is very smart woman. :>
November 30, 2019 at 19:59
(Gemini) Sinem » Morena.Lu
Great maneuver, but between my intentions and my words! I know the difference :1:
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