Mercury retro and Moon waning or waxing

November 7, 2019 at 13:16 (UT/GMT)
(Pisces) IleneTs
Mercury retro and Moon waning or waxing
Following a discussion on a topic from Salomea and Mantzourana concerning Mercury retro and Moon waning or waxing, I want ask you the following.

For example:

What would you choose if you wanted to set up a company?
Of course this is not complete.

But suppose you had in mind to start a business on Monday, November 3, 2019, and in your Natal chart you have Jupiter on 3 Leo and is ruler of the 2nd house and Venus is ruler of the 10th house.

1. Let´s see what Mercury and the Moon are doing on:
negative: Mercury retro 27 Scorpio
positive: Moon waxing
very positive: Transit :154: 3 :179: :193: :156: 3 :175:
(= ruler 10 :154: :193: ruler 2 :156:)

2. Let´s see when Mercury goes direct on:
positive: Mercury direct 11 Scorpio
negative: Moon waning
negative: Tr.Venus 24 :179: out of trine with :156: 3 :175:

3. Let´s see when the Moon is waxing again:
positive: Mercury direct 14 Scorpio
Positive: Moon waxing
Negative: Tr. Venus in Capricon and out of trine with Jupiter.

Next Tr.Venus 3 Sagittarius is in December 2020, that´s more than a year.
Of course there is still a trine between Tr.Venus on 3 Ram with Jupiter, but that gives different influences.

What would you choose?
For example, do you let a nice position like Transit Venus trine Jupiter pass as :154: :193: :156: = (10 :193: 2) to opt for mercury direct and moon waxing?

Please Choose number 1, 2 or 3 if you like to share your opinion.

This is just one little choice you have to make, because there´s is a lot more to choose as other transits and progressions, before you can make a right desicion. :

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November 7, 2019 at 14:00
(Virgo) MarvinReal
I didn´t follow that previous discussion thoroughly, just few bits of it. But I had an impression that I disagree that Mercury must be direct when you starting. Mercury Retrograde is not bad for any activity or business, especially not bad for people native of that particular retrograde. I mean, if there is direct motion in current transits, and someone is born with retrograde, ... it can actually be the case that current Direct makes you bipolar, multipolar, or anything what is unnatural to the native. In any endeavour you have to be yourself the way you are.
November 7, 2019 at 14:35
(Aquarius) nikkia
Option number 1:
Since the nature of the business is fashion and social media - this is very tempting.
(I am not skilled enough to truly analyze all the combinations and possible implications)

I´d cast a chart for the business birthday itself - see what that looks like.

We all survive Mercury retros.
I´m unsure about the waning moon´s influence on modern commercial commerce. So there´s that.

Great topic, IleneT´s
November 7, 2019 at 18:08
(Pisces) IleneTs » nikkia
Thanks Nikkia and also for your reply! :15:
November 7, 2019 at 18:12
(Pisces) IleneTs » MarvinReal
Hi MarvinReal,

That´s what I´m trying to say too. It depends on many other factors.
You have people who feel strongly about buying something or starting when Mercury is retro.
Probably because then the mental pressure is less.

If you discourage them, there is a chance that they will not do or dare to do it when Mercury goes direct.
The possibility is even present that such a person even gets into a depression.

So my advice is, if you feel the spirit of doing something and it is reasonable, do it and deal with it.
Better action with maybe some problems, then no action at all. :1:
November 8, 2019 at 03:19
(Virgo) MarvinReal » IleneTs
My mother has probably everything retrograde then :8: She already wasted big chunk of her inheritance and security for retirement. I used up much less of my own, but this year already costed me dearly. We share expenses with partner and I am limiting her shopping sprees. Not bad so far. Thanks IleneTs.
November 8, 2019 at 11:28
(Cancer) Mantzourana
I would choose number 4: the morning of 28.11.2019
positive: Mercury direct 15 Scorpio
positive: Moon waxing and in Sagittarius
positive: Moon close to New Moon
positive: Moon conjunct transit Jupiter

This answer is very close to your 3rd choice, so if you limit our choices only to the 3 you mentioned, I would choose number 3.

I could choose number 1 IF I had started planning for this company when Mercury was direct. I would have expected some difficulties at first but then the things I would expect to go well. But it wouldn´t be my first choice.

I don´t think there is a right or wrong answer.
Everything is subjective in life.
I just shared MY opinion.
November 8, 2019 at 13:59
ASTRASTRO-SEEK ADMINSEEK Admin, (Taurus) Petr9 » IleneTs
I also agree Ilene :15:

I´m Mercury retrograde native ... and I actually like these retrograde phases - they are naturally for me :97:

- Sometimes I return to some unfinished stuff/project from before and I suddenly have lots of new ideas and inventions I didn´t have before;

- Sometimes I have to return to some "finished" stuff/project and to deal with some errors and glitches ... but it´s so cool to find the problem, to fix it and have lots of new ideas and various perspectives about this issue;

- And btw I just currently returned to my very old idea and finally STARTED working on it;
(I hope that I will finish it until the retrograde´s end :61:)
November 8, 2019 at 14:02
Btw I´m not much used to these wanning/waxing Moons in combination with retrograde Mercury :43:

But I just recently added new option - "Annual Mercury graphic circular movement" ... and I could try to implement also these Moon phases there (I mean full moons and new moons during the year)
It might be helpful for observing these mutual Mercury & Moon phases
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November 8, 2019 at 16:48
(Aquarius) nikkia » Petr9
I´m also born with Mercury retro - and everything you said is true for me, too.

I´ve done this naturally, long before I discovered astrology.

It´s been like a lucky charm for getting stuff done and bringing new ideas into the mix.

I truly enjoy this mental energy.
November 9, 2019 at 10:40
(Pisces) IleneTs » Petr9
Hi Petr,

It will certainly help and totally to do research on it. :15:
November 9, 2019 at 10:55
(Pisces) IleneTs » Mantzourana
You made a 4th opion namely :152: :191: Tr. :156: , but since we don´t know the rest of the horoscope and therefore we don´t know where Moon is the ruler of, I really wanted to stick to the 3 options.
Thank you for making a choice here too. :15:
November 9, 2019 at 11:10
(Pisces) IleneTs » MarvinReal
:63: But even your mother´s Sun and Moon never go retro :3: :74:
November 9, 2019 at 17:14
ASTRASTRO-SEEK ADMINSEEK Admin, (Taurus) Petr9 » nikkia
:15: :37:
November 9, 2019 at 17:16
ASTRASTRO-SEEK ADMINSEEK Admin, (Taurus) Petr9 » IleneTs
Hi Ilene,

I tried to prepare Moon path during the entire year and highlighted the waxing x waning phases between Full moon & New moons:
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November 9, 2019 at 17:17
ASTRASTRO-SEEK ADMINSEEK Admin, (Taurus) Petr9 » Petr9
I will probably play with colors little bit and try some more variants:
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November 9, 2019 at 17:18
ASTRASTRO-SEEK ADMINSEEK Admin, (Taurus) Petr9 » Petr9
and this a merge of Moon path & Mercury path:

is it somehow useful for this research? :25:
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November 9, 2019 at 19:24
(Pisces) IleneTs » Petr9
Wow that´s fast. :15:
As you said, you have no problems with Mercury retro. :4:
I really want to try it out, but grandson is staying and is already 12, so it takes before he goes to bed.
So helas it will unfortunately be tomorrow. :37:
November 10, 2019 at 08:55
ASTRASTRO-SEEK ADMINSEEK Admin, (Taurus) Petr9 » IleneTs

As you said, you have no problems with Mercury retro
I just found, that I have to re-design/re-build the entire annual option from scratch, because it´s loading the server too much :43: :39: and I have to invent a better and different solution.

haha yeah .. I have no problem with Mercury retro :61: :61:
November 10, 2019 at 10:00
(Pisces) IleneTs » Petr9
Oh no! :23:

Maybe Mercury retro doesn´t want you to place it in one circle with the Moon? :85: :4:

But I want to try it out this afternoon.
November 10, 2019 at 10:06
ASTRASTRO-SEEK ADMINSEEK Admin, (Taurus) Petr9 » IleneTs
Maybe Mercury retro doesn´t want you to place it in one circle with the Moon?
I guess so! Separate circular Moon path (without Mercury) works flawlessly :4: :61:
November 10, 2019 at 10:34
(Pisces) IleneTs » Petr9
And it looks very nice.
But the combi looks fantastic on first sight. :15:
But I still have to try it out.
November 10, 2019 at 14:21
(Pisces) IleneTs » Petr9
Hi Petr,

It took a while to see how it works.

The red line is Mercury with 3 retro periodes.
The black spots - New Moon
The grey spots - Full Moon
The blue lines when the Moon is waxing.
The black lines when the Moon in waning.

And yes: it works. :15:
I´ve checked my birthday 11 March for this year and I saw at once:
Mercury retro and a waxing Moon.

Also for research nice to compare how much this combination happens.
For this year:

:153: retro: 5 March until 28 March
:152: waxing 6 March until 21 March

:153: retro: 7 July until 1 August
:152: waxing 2 July until 16 August

:153: retro: 31 October until 20 November
:152: waxing 28 October until 12 November
November 11, 2019 at 12:10
(Virgo) MarvinReal » IleneTs
You omitted dots after number of the month.

If you write it like you did, in GBR we will think it´s about 28,11 of some money or accounting calculations, instead of about a calendar. Apart of the fact that most people here don´t understand "mainland" European measuring of time. :4:
November 11, 2019 at 13:33
ASTRASTRO-SEEK ADMINSEEK Admin, (Taurus) Petr9 » IleneTs
Cool! :15:
November 11, 2019 at 13:36
ASTRASTRO-SEEK ADMINSEEK Admin, (Taurus) Petr9 » MarvinReal
yeah ... all those different date and number formats across the globe are confusing pain in the &*^%^%# :23: :39:
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