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Confliction between freedom and wanting to be tied down to some placement (lasting)
September 18, 2023 at 19:46 (UT/GMT)

Confliction between freedom and wanting to be tied down to some placement (lasting)
What in my chart indicates this
I know my Venus in the 9th
I know my Venus in the 9th

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September 18, 2023 at 20:21


September 18, 2023 at 21:13


- Your South Node

Any other information that you would like to provide? What do you think about this?

September 19, 2023 at 09:34

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Check it out,
I must say I´m not into it myself, but I do know people who do

September 19, 2023 at 19:34

I find this to be a very good answer
And I agree
I had wondered it.. yet I didn´t know if this aspect had ´much weight´
Also because my Nn and Sn are in reverse (Libra asc) I feel like that can be confusing
My Venus is also square my moon, but I kinda feel like any freedom and uncertainty is coming from Both of them

My sun in the 11th may also have want me to stay put,
And also I had thought 4th house Neptune
Hmrrr... I don´t know if you could say how I could appease my moon at the same time as my Nn and sun

Interestingly my moon is in sync with my Neptune and mercury, idk exactly what that means

September 19, 2023 at 19:36

Moving on and trying somewhere new
Or isolating from the masses at the very least

September 19, 2023 at 22:07
Linda Harris
» Anna239
This is a VERY common dynamic in a lot of people´s lives. Wanting to keep your options open...using your creativity and intuition.....versus having security and routine ....
One aspect is Venus square Moon....Gemini vs. Virgo....very much this issue. Freedom vs safe routine...
But just being a LEO...I mean Leo doesn´t want to feel "stuck" without options.
However, you have had your Saturn return...so by now you should sort of know what you want...be able to "visualize " your future...no matter how unique and unusual it is...KNOW what you definitely WANT in your future and what you DON"T want...that will make it easier for you to make ongoing decisions.
Sometimes this can be a delicate balance.
Linda
One aspect is Venus square Moon....Gemini vs. Virgo....very much this issue. Freedom vs safe routine...
But just being a LEO...I mean Leo doesn´t want to feel "stuck" without options.
However, you have had your Saturn return...so by now you should sort of know what you want...be able to "visualize " your future...no matter how unique and unusual it is...KNOW what you definitely WANT in your future and what you DON"T want...that will make it easier for you to make ongoing decisions.
Sometimes this can be a delicate balance.
Linda

September 20, 2023 at 00:58

It´s an inner battle that people have even if they don´t ever actualise on it externally in any extended ways
But I added isolated from the masses for a very good reason.
Sometimes I feel suffocated by it living very close to the/or a nucleus
It confuses me as there isn´t much sense to be made of it I think
As a Leo actually I´d rather commit, dust off my hands and sit back and relax
However... my 12th house moon, though in Virgo, occasionally feels like

What am I doing with my life??
I hope I am sacrificing my peace of mind for something tangible and truly realistic
If it isn´t I´d really prefer no part in any of this..
And my self expression feels stifled where I am too.
It seems like the present situation/people around cause this effect
I know it´s largely my personal self reacting in an individual way but..

September 20, 2023 at 01:05

There are still some big questions at play,
And it could be wanting peace of mind, authenticity (kind of equally freedom) Vs realism and Literal grounding of expectations

September 21, 2023 at 01:28
Linda Harris
» Anna239
Well, I think you are underestimating the number of conflicts in your chart.
Not only does Gemini clash with Virgo, it also is the opposite of Sagi....
Sagi likes the wide open spaces...Virgo likes space too...Gemini is the "city mouse".
It´s really a very big polarity. You may have to go where you feel you want to be at any one time and then move on....to someplace else you feel comfortable.
It´s hard to feel security under these circumstances...but you may have a gypsy in your soul.
So...it´s complicated...and your expectations need to be more mutable than fixed.
Leo likes to be at ease and have fun....but...that is only ONE dynamic of the Leo psyche. We need to DO things...creative things....even if the money is short.
Linda
Not only does Gemini clash with Virgo, it also is the opposite of Sagi....
Sagi likes the wide open spaces...Virgo likes space too...Gemini is the "city mouse".
It´s really a very big polarity. You may have to go where you feel you want to be at any one time and then move on....to someplace else you feel comfortable.
It´s hard to feel security under these circumstances...but you may have a gypsy in your soul.
So...it´s complicated...and your expectations need to be more mutable than fixed.
Leo likes to be at ease and have fun....but...that is only ONE dynamic of the Leo psyche. We need to DO things...creative things....even if the money is short.
Linda

September 21, 2023 at 15:13

Because I have the clash between my moon and Venus, but then there´s a link too because my 9th house is ruled by the 10th which is buddies with my 12th
But... Then also my 1st is ruled by the 9th where Venus is despite my 3rd where my Nn is being ruled by the 1st despite being Opposite to the 9th house...
Actually I´m not fully considering this aspect until now
But my Nn is square my moon and sextile Jupiter

September 21, 2023 at 15:18

I´m also used to it more than the opposite state
So I can´t imagine staying like this for years..
But I stay only for the people 👀
(Not that I have a family or partner currently)
Only people it turns out give me security
I also like the feeling of at least vaguely fitting in,
But yeah I also want my freedom or mental health within this it turns out
And it may not be too specific more than to say that I find cities oppressive even if they aren´t overtly designed to be so

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