How do you cope with your enemies? - Discussions, questions

IceSíckle I think the best course of action is to love your enemies. There is more you can learn from enemies than you can from friends. People who oppose you present you a challenge to foster understanding between your ideals and their ideals. Maybe just maybe... an enemy is possibly a true friend cloaked in shadow

At least that´s how I view it.

Ellilunaa Revenge will come to them. I’m already living my life peacefully.

They will get their karma. Always . All the people who did evil to me suffered in the end.

Eros Arcano For me to have a desire for revenge, that person has to have seriously made me angry. I am lucky that whoever does me wrong ends up paying for it sooner or later without me doing anything, but if I have the opportunity to do it on my own, I will definitely do it. I am patient, but I really enjoy when the person is punished.

Hmm Sorry, I think the paragraph above would correspond to the first cases you mentioned. For something more serious I don´t know, for a long time I wrote about "perfect crimes" in which I literally made certain people pay, but in real life no one has made me angry to that level, so I don´t know if I would be able to recreate something like what I wrote.

Zephyrin » IceSíckle Calling an enemy a true friend... In a sense they help you to become a better version of yourself and to move forward in life.

Their ideals... Probably same with Satan´s ideals

The thing they showed was the truth itself and this is the only good aspect of those enemies I mentioned about, that I´m not being deluded anymore. But knowing the truth is painful as hell.

I was happier when I was oblivious of everything.

Zephyrin » Ellilunaa May karma f*ck them, literally.

But I want to see it with my eyes. I don´t know if they got what they deserved...

"All the people who did evil to me suffered in the end."

That is great and you are a Saturn dominant. Seeing your enemies suffer is no surprise

IceSíckle » Zephyrin Possibly an enemy is a true friend but not always..some people go their entire lives being cruel but don´t let their cruelty dampen your light and shine your light on their darkness through kindness and tenderness but at the same time you might have to remove yourself from their lives if you must to preserve the peace between you both

It seems there are alot of people following Satanic ideals in the world, but their path only leads to destruction

Zephyrin » Eros Arcano "I really enjoy when the person is punished."

YESS I completely agree with you.

I even forgot about the darkest traumas of my childhood but this is something else, I cannot stand the idea that they keep living peacefully after things they have done.

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Let´s get to the issue, I learned very bad things went behind my back 4 years ago during the Venus retrograde. I don´t know what can I do, I feel too incompetent and powerless to solve the issue. It is wicked...

My first ex from 4 years ago came back and confessed he cheated me, which I suspected at that time but never been sure if he really did until the last Venus rx in Leo in my 8H.

Cheating part is relatively tolerable, I accept that shit happens but there are other things.

Firstly, me, he, and the other girl are in the same college. It was 4 years ago.

The girl confesses her interest to my ex. My ex tells that he has a relationship with me and cannot be with her but she doesn´t accept this. She draws portraits of him and shows to him, tries to communicate with him.

Couple months later, I go to holiday somewhere near the sea with my family, and that ex has a house in the same location. We see each other. Of course he never tells me that girl comes to see him too from 500-600 kms away. They secretly talk to each other. And I´m thinking my relationship was going alright because he doesn´t act suspicious. One day the girl attempts to seduce him, they kiss but no intercourse.

My ex says she forced her to do this, says kissing is not cheating and that he enjoyed the idea of being liked by someone at those times. As if I wasn´t there for him. And he used to say I´m ugly or "not beautiful enough".

Today, I encountered one of the social media accounts of the girl whom he cheated me, saw that she is imitating my style, even my recent haircut, completely. The same model. She makes drawings. Guess who else also makes drawings? One must be a fool to call it a coincidence.

I´m going crazy over the whole situation right now. I learn or see a new detail about the same issue everyday, it is making difficult to forget it for me. This issue is bothering me very much.

Ellilunaa » Zephyrin You’ll always know somehow

With Capricorns, karma always circles back to whoever does us wrong. And Saturn dominant people. You see the themes of Saturn and how this plays out in our lives

I have Saturn in the 1st house as well which talks about that too. Karma is a huge part of my life, and I am protected by my ancestors. Daddy Saturn loves me after all….

I hope they’re proud of me , I’m really tryin out here

Zephyrin » IceSíckle May it leads to their self-destruction

"don´t let their cruelty dampen your light and shine your light on their darkness through kindness and tenderness"

I´ll try, Ice. Fortunately, I have people who care about me and remind there is still hope in goodness and kindness. Or else I would´ve felt completely lost.

Thank you

Eros Arcano » Zephyrin Understand. Your ex has all the traits of a little narcissistic psychopath: from the fact how he justified himself by minimizing his infidelity by blaming the other girl, the way he attacked your self-esteem by saying that you weren´t that beautiful, but above all with the UNNECESSARY triangulation when "confess" to you what he did behind your back so long later. What did he do it for? To screw you!

As for the other girl, she is also very screwed, she is another victim of him. Do you know why she is copying your personality? Because he uses you to triangulate her. I´m sure he always tells her how pretty and talented you are, how great your new look looks on you, etc. And that´s why the poor girl tries her best to look like you.

The narcissist always comes back so it´s no wonder he´s looking for you now. It serves to capture your attention and screw you, but also to humiliate his new victim.

How to punish a narcissist? Don´t give him any attention, show him that you don´t care, that you don´t care about his life. DON´T SHOW HIM THAT IT STILL AFFECTS YOU. The narcissist can´t stand it when you show him that you no longer care, he needs to get your attention (for better or worse) because he wants to feel like someone important.

Don´t worry so much about the girl, she is already paying, she is having a very bad time. As for him... Apply the coldest indifference, minimal or no contact if possible. He will not bear to see you stable and without any interest, good or bad, in him.

Erinmeow » Ellilunaa I was going to say this earlier, but figured you would

Everything you said is how I feel on the topic. Karma is one thing I firmly believe in. I´m grateful I grew out of the need to feel like I needed to see it in action.

But people who have intentionally made my life hell, or attempted always go through a bad time after.

Like others have said, you also end up coming out stronger after someone has intentionally slighted you. And growth is invaluable.

Zephyrin » Eros Arcano "What did he do it for? To screw you!"

And he chose the Venus retrograde times to do it..

Yep, I was good and moving on before then. I felt suddenly desperate and shocked after his contact. I mean, it has been 4 years, what can I do against those two now? Nothing, it seems.

"Don´t give him any attention, show him that you don´t care, that you don´t care about his life. DON´T SHOW HIM THAT IT STILL AFFECTS YOU."

When he contacted me, he said I was holding grudge against him for I kept him blocked for a very long time. So whatever I do to keep him away from myself and show I no longer care, he is too self-centered and thinks it is done for him. Weird but it is how he is.

"Don´t worry so much about the girl, she is already paying, she is having a very bad time."

This is the only possibility in which I find solace right now.

As far as he says they never had a relationship even after I dumped him. But who cares? I want them to get destroyed forever by a superior power.

Thank you a lot Eros I understood again that I shouldn´t give any way to a narcissist interfering with my life or mood.

It will just take time to forget, maybe another 4 years.

Sun is about to rise in couple hours here, I´ll try to get some sleep now. No idea what time is it in your location but have a nice day

Eros Arcano » Zephyrin Take a rest. Soon you will be very well. Sweet dreams.

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You can tell if someone is giving good or bad criticism, it just depends on how you are taking it as.

But of course, there are a few that will cross the boundary sometimes.

There’s a certain line to everything. Here’s the funny thing, my moon easily detaches from toxic situations and people but my mars wants me to snap

I’d say my is more of how I react to enemies considering it’s

Sometimes, people should also start to just not give a fuck. It helps.

Ellilunaa » Zephyrin I had to deal with a guy like that, and he’s actually from Turkey as well lol.. I’ve talked about him on here in some posts

Turkish guys keep coming into my life for some reason.

We’ve been on and off for a year now, he lives in a different country, we don’t speak the same language. We’ve been using a translator all this time. It was a never ending cycle of him getting mad at me, leaving me, and manipulating. He’s a loser, full stop. I once truly loved him but now I just don’t care anymore. I found out that he actually had a girlfriend for 5 years that he was on and off with as well, and he just kept going back and forth between us lmfao. I found it pathetic and I loved seeing him getting frustrated when I didn’t give him the love I used to every time he ran back to me. He was like a toddler 😂

He actually came back twice in these last few months, once was right at the beginning of Venus retrograde and the other time was last week.

I’ve roasted him so many times I just can’t be bothered anymore. He’s the one who decided to mess with me, so he’s gonna get my roasts and cold attitude.

He got his karma.. so I have no business with him anymore

I loved winding him up, he deserves it he can go back and drink his alcohol or whatever. Or go back to his ex that forgot his birthday apparently; earlier this week he was complaining that she forgot his birthday so he blocked her LOL. And I told him ‘she has a lot of common sense for leaving you’

I don’t know who this girl is, and honestly I don’t care.. but I feel sorry for her because she has to deal with someone like him

He always finds me through Facebook and would tell me to come back on Whatspp to talk, where I would just be completely emotionless and cold, and he would eventually get frustrated and leave.

he’s always telling me to come and visit Turkey, I do want to. I was planning to go to meet friends there that I made through social media, and I always wanted to visit anyway. But I told him that I’m going to visit his city, and just ignore him and one time the reason he left me was because he was annoyed I wasn’t coming to see him, when he knows there’s no way for me to possibly come. I can’t travel on my own, my parents don’t allow me and I had exams anyway.

stigmí I read your story…
If you are able to? If you are good at it? Try…

I admired people who are able to revenge someone with great style… they punished everything somebody did them and what is nice, that they stayed in their power and had respect…because noone tried it again…
I think there is something more in it…

I am not able to do this…I am too kind…I can do something in emotions but not in this way…

Well…not in all cases, but I think, some of them should be punished…not because of punishing itself but because of to get your power back…
And who is able to get power back without it are very happy*

ChironianSun Hello Zephyrin,

Remembering that nobody does anything against me but I live what I need to grow and evolve. Revenge would be against me not against them. When I live a situation even if it is uncomfortable or painful, I know that it is trying to show me something that I need to work on or realise.

So, in this case, why would I wish them dead if they came into my life to show me something for my good?

I know this is the unpopular view and I know no one wants to hear this version, but I´m afraid this is probably one (if not the only) of the most effective perspectives I can take.

I wish you the best

yourstruly27 the best revenge is to cut them out of your life for good, i have a story of revenge when i was in school

first at age 10 or so, i was heckling some guy and we started fighting, wam wam wam, and this imbecile this audacious bastard, he kicked me down a full flight of bleachers, we were al the way at the fkn top, 11 feet at least, the gymnasium was PACKED, completely full of people, since we as students came here in the morning, the whole school was there, i wasnt even embarassed i just knew i was about to completely kick this guys ass, as i stomped with full overwhelming might and power back to the top, (i felt like main character) i had pure evil in my heart and mind, i swung him like 5 times, and was turning the tables of my disgrace until to all my peers shock, this bastard.. kicked me back down again, the full 11 feet, the air was sucked out of the whole gym, everybody was watching...



i couldnt stop myself from falling but i tried it felt like i was grabbing nothing but air, my fall would not be broken, now my pride was completely shattered, but Lord knows i couldnt just let this slide, so a 2nd time i climbed back to the top with the fierceness of a thousand bulls full me twice shame on you, so i started wailing on this man with the full force of an archangel and i was going to probably accidentally kill him because i was full to the brim with evil thoughts on how best to destroy this kids existence and safe face, but before i could do anything too crazy BOOM spARTAn kick flew in the air, nah jk, one of his teachers came and stopped us with a shout that echoed all the way to the principals office and the workplace of my parents

i never forgot that day for like 6 years i always remembered that day in the back of my head and i was secretly plotting on him like my mars was in scorpio, so one day after like 6 years we were in a friends backyard and were all boxing and i challenged him because finally all the deviousness could be realized, all i could think about was my revenge, i was a bit scared possibly checking around for stairs and bleachers but i didnt care, i decided today was the day to kick this mans ass so bad that when i knocked him hed see me climbing those bleachers with angels or demons behind me, afterwards when his face was busted and his nose was having its time of the month i thought back with a smile on my face, then i looked at him in his eyes and as a fellow human, i realized tht i felt bad about it (halfway) and that day really made me question revenge, honestly revenge is just evil it truly is, that is why i say just cut them out your life (unless they kicked you down bleachers in front of your entire school) its just better to cut them out of your life and take back your power, because that guy had power over me for years with me hating him and wanting revenge and pretending we were friends when really i just wanted to rip his face clean off his skeleton, its just not worth it in the end, because of one how it makes you feel and for two how it will effect that person, its best to cut them out forever and claim your power of righteousness. and id also reccommend forgiveness, forgiving them will allow all that dirt to just run out of you, so that you dont feel like you gotta do something, its very healthy and very spiritual act.


chances are if you let it go that person who wronged you will get hit by a car, and we wish them a speedy recovery with no complications God has the greatest revenge, as a Leo, its natural to want your revenge, but i feel like if you do something bad will happen, just pray about it truly and ask God to take away your vengeance so that you wont be deceived by evil spirits and thus cause great chaos

yourstruly27 » ChironianSun wow honestly this is just the purest response, God bless you.

Eros Arcano » ChironianSun Everyone preaching love and now I feel like a psychopath for telling Zephyrin how to murder the daffodil and the imitator.

ChironianSun » yourstruly27 Ohhhh thank you so much for your comment! God bless you too

ChironianSun » Eros Arcano Ohh I didn´t read the comments, just the one before mine I think! haha!

I just read yours. Well, it´s still valid, my dear Eros... Everyone acts according to what they feel they have to do... I don´t own the truth, maybe my perspective is the wrong one here!

Eros Arcano » ChironianSun It is the correct one, love and peace above all. Excellent day, Solecito.

ChironianSun » Eros Arcano Ese es mi chico, Libra vibes always Thank you, have a wonderful day!

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