Quick Guide To Vedic Newcomers

May 22, 2023 at 07:09 (UT/GMT)
(Virgo) Aren Levi
Quick Guide To Vedic Newcomers

These are simple rules for new or tropical astrologers that want to try vedic system and have no knowledge about its mechanisms ✔

1. Do not use knowledge about signs, houses, planets characteristics from your tropical system to your vedic placements.
- That means Vedic astrology has mostly different view on basic knowledge. For example what Sun stands for and its function.

2. Vedic astrology works only with Whole sign houses.
- every technique in this system comes from Whole sign house system.
- Other house systems would not work for vedic.

3. Outer planets and smaller cosmic objects.
- They are noticed by vedic astrologers but they have not as high significance as main planets, Moon, Rahu and ketu.

4. Do not doom yourself for having planets in debilitation/fall.
- There are many combinations that can bring very possitive results even through debilitated planets.
- "Bad results" could be seen subjectively for example Venus in exaltation sign of Jupiter pisces is inclined to pious nature which not everyone can see as possitive for their life and debilitated Venus could bring massive wealth which again can be seen negatively by pious people. ( current social-economic situations in world has to be acknowledge for reading any chart. )
- D9 chart which is chart that activates in your maturity ( which can be actiated through marriage, spiritual maturity, life experience usually after 30yrs ) shows how you lead your life and shows inner power of your placements.
( weak Sun in D1 which is birth chart can be exalted in D9 which shows medium results overall generally speaking. )

5. Every planet has its own special aspect.
- For example Jupiter has 5th, 7th, 9th aspect form its position and every aspect has its own meaning.

6. Conjunctions and combustions are functional everytime if planets are in the same house no matter the distance in degrees.
- If planets have closer distance in degrees to each other, then effects are stronger and planet with higher degree dominates the planet with lower degree which means it "controls" the other planets results and flavours it.

7. There are natural benefic planets like Jupiter, natural malefics like Saturn and neutrals like Moon.

8. Every asc has unique malefics and benefics.
- For example scorpio asc has its own malefics and those malfics are determined by houses they rule.
( for scorpio rising Mars is neutral because it rules its 1st house and malefic 6th house.
Mercury for scorpio risings is malefic because it rules 8th house and is his enemy in mythology. )
- If malefic planet for any asc is badly placed in bad combination then results are negative.
( for example malefic that rules 6th house placed in his enemy sign,
for scorpio asc that could mean Mars ruler of 6th placed in Mercuries sign virgo in 11th house. )
- If malefic that rules for example 8th house is placed in good combination then it gives medium to good results for 8th house matters.
( For example Mercury for scorpio rising positioned in its own sign in virgo in 11th house. )

9. Nakshatras shows more accurate results when it comes to sign energy.
- For example even tho Mars is weak or rather irritated in taurus, there is nakshatra Mrigasira that is taurus sign and Mars performs very well in it because it is nakshatra that is ruled by Mars in mythology.
- So Every zodiac covers 2.25 Nakshatras. For taurus sign there is one nakshatra purely taurus and 2 that taurus shares with aries and gemini.
Aries has 2 purely aries nakshatras and 1 that shares with taurus.
- We have 27 nakshatras.

10. If you are looking up your vedic placements online on google etc, write behind it vedic cause as i wrote before, tropical has different meanings for most of the stuff and google might find for you tropical meanings which wouldnt fit.
- If you want most accurate general meaning of your placements, write your position with asc.
( for example Sun in 10th house for scorpio asc vedic astrology ... )

11. If you want to see your psychological view on world and your emotions, you have to use your Moon as ASC 1st house which means chart will move every position. Then you can read your Moon chart.
- This is useful during transits cause then you can work with your emotions for future and manifest your own results.

12. Do not make conclusions about your chart for yourself, always advice with more skilled vedic astrologers.

13. Locate your Atmakaraka
- Atmakaraka is planet with highest degree and the "rule of planet age" which will be described in point 14 does not apply to it.
- Atmakaraka is planet functioning to the fullest with biggest impact on a persons life or at least recurring themes.
- Atmakaraka is so prominent that it is like having that planet in 1st house and it does give 1st house its "flavour".
- Rahu is something that you desire but do not really have and Atmakaraka is like something that you desire and have all the time but also with lessons to not sabotage yourself with it.
- Rahu and Ketu, Neptune, Uranus, Pluto, asteroids cant be your Atmakaraka.
- For example having Venus atmakaraka would give you libra/taurus vibe into your 1st house, you would be extremely interested in arts, films, music, beautiful things, beautiful people, sex and in some combinations even religion.

14. Degrees show age of planets and thus their direction and "fatigue"
- Some planets work great in "younger years" and some are most potent in "adult" years which would be from 10th to 16th degree.
- For example having Moon in 25+ degree could show emotional coldness or even aversion to emotions if not taken care of regularly no matter the position in chart.


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May 22, 2023 at 07:12
(Scorpio) IceSíckle
OOOO OOO I have a question!

Y´know how the seasons are reference points in Tropical Astrology...So what is the standard celestial reference point in Vedic Astrology. There are so many stars to choose from so which star is the basis for calculations. Thanks bro :4:
May 22, 2023 at 07:24
(Virgo) Aren Levi » IceSíckle
As i wrote to you in another post,
Having seasons as refferent point is not great.
problem is and i keep repeating it, not every part of the world has seasons and some parts have flipped seasons which means zodiacs are not really connected to weather.

Do not forget global warming or whatever it is... Cause my Country that is in middle of Europe does not have 4 seasons like it used to but it has 2 seasons which is Summer and Winter... It fuckss up agriculture sadly.
Its nice that western civilization used zodiacs as significators of seasons but it is not valid to present times and not for every country.

As i also mentioned before, vedic uses cosmos and stars unlike tropical that uses weather of Earth and do not get me started again on platypus and shape of Earth as significator for house cusps :61:

Here is asnwer to your question which you have made before you even read my post.
The earth takes one year to complete its rotation around the Sun. From the earth, it appears that the Sun moves around the earth. This apparent path of the Sun is known as ecliptic. An imaginary belt of 18 degrees width with ecliptic in its centre is known as the zodiac. Many groups of stars appear to have been studded on this imaginary belt. Vedic astrology recognizes 27 such groups of stars called nakshatras.

The zodiac encircles the earth like a circle consisting of 360 degrees. If this circle is divided into 27 equal parts, each part will be of 13 degrees and 20 minutes arc, known as a nakshatra. Each nakshatra is further divided into 4 quarters (padas or charanas), of 3 degrees and 20 minutes arc each.

Twelve divisions of the zodiac will have an arc of 30 degrees each, known as rashis (or signs).

May 22, 2023 at 07:33
(Scorpio) IceSíckle » Aren Levi
Bro I wasn´t here to debate you I just asked a simple question :61:

"i also mentioned before, vedic uses cosmos and stars"

And that´s why I asked which star and constellation is the reference point in Vedic...it must be linked to one of the stars :63:
May 22, 2023 at 07:36
(Virgo) Aren Levi » IceSíckle
The Vedic system does not depend on this shifting zodiac and relies on a fixed point on the zodiac as its starting point.
this point to be 180 degrees opposite to the Chitra nakshatra :37:
May 22, 2023 at 07:37
(Scorpio) IceSíckle » Aren Levi
So what constellation is chitra nakshata in?
May 22, 2023 at 07:40
(Virgo) Aren Levi » IceSíckle
So why do you keep bringing up tropical weather fetish :61:

You do not have to keep bringing up tropical shortcomings
May 22, 2023 at 07:41
(Virgo) Aren Levi » IceSíckle
The first two quarters or padas of this Nakshatra fall under the zodiac sign of Virgo and the last two fall under the sign of Libra.
May 22, 2023 at 07:44
(Aries) alhar » IceSíckle
Depends on whose technique to use.

Sri Surya Siddhanta, Dirk Siddhanta; taking Spica in the middle and using it, taking Lahiri that they calculated and adjusted for Indian people and country to have a proper living setting all work but depends on the technique that is developed on from it.

For instance if I use Dirk Siddhanta and write vedas like Nadi and years later if people check it using Sri Surya Siddhanta they will say I am not accurate.

Besides, normally Virgo constellation is 3 times bigger than Aries and other constellations have massive differences, they are not even equal :)

Using Sun as the reference or Moon as the reference they both are accurate but mean different things and this is known by only very few Astrologers out there.
This is where I´ll stop.

Wishing a great day to everyone!
May 22, 2023 at 07:44
(Scorpio) IceSíckle » Aren Levi
So does this mean :176: is the first sign of the Zodiac in Vedic while :177: is the last sign?

And yes I simply love the Tropical Zodiac. I´m a big fan boy :40:
May 22, 2023 at 07:47
(Scorpio) IceSíckle » alhar
Thank you for your insight kind sir!

But if Virgo is 3x bigger than Aries than this must mean not all the signs are 30° equal? So I guess what I´m saying is how can Vedic be more accurate than Tropical if there in an imbalance in the Zodiac yet all signs use 30° I guess it just doesn´t resonate with me.
May 22, 2023 at 07:48
(Gemini) oxx{]:::::::::::::::::::>
Actually some Vedic astrologers use Equal Houses to add spice to their readings. Of course, not everyone, but some do. 🤷‍♂️
May 22, 2023 at 07:58
Hi there OP Aren Levi, can you help answer one question for me. Ofcourse you don´t have to answer, your the OP of the thread, you just click delete my reply if you not see fit, I totally will understand.

Apology first, I´m Hellenistic and Medieval Astrology fanatic and student, so I don´t know much about Vedic except it shift 23 degrees backward from Tropical sign to Vedic.

So my husband has Tropical Scorpio Mars 24 degrees in 5th house. In Vedic it shift his Scorpio Mars 23 degrees backward so Sidereal/Vedic it become a 1 degree Scorpio Mars (still Scorpio Mars but it 1 degree instead). And in Vedic his Mars in 6th house.
So Mars in his Rulership sign and in 6th house (Mars Joy house), in Hellenistic Mars in it Joy in 6th house.

So how do you interpret Scorpio Mars in 6th house with Scorpio Ketu, my husband have Scorpio Ketu Conjunct Mars in 6th house, Sidereal/Vedic here. Since this Vedic thread, so I have to ask based on Vedic placement.

Thank you very much.
May 22, 2023 at 07:58
(Virgo) Aren Levi » oxx{]:::::::::::::::::::>
I have heard about it but i do not know anything about it so i cant comment on it. :37:
May 22, 2023 at 08:02
(Virgo) Aren Levi » IceSíckle
We have discussed this also in another thread so why are you trolling ?
You want to be banned from this masterfull thread ? :61:

Size does not matter.
The energies are equal and this is why they are divided by 30 degrees.

Like whole sign house system that you use comes from same principal :61:

May 22, 2023 at 08:02
(Virgo) Aren Levi » IceSíckle
i wrote it is 180 degrees opposite to chitra which is accuretly aries.
When you go clockwise you end up at pisces.

Why would you be fan of smt that is loosing relevancy ?
Nahh i am kidding :61:
No war in this thread. This is educational thread about techniques of vedic astrology.
May 22, 2023 at 08:05
(Scorpio) IceSíckle » Aren Levi
Don´t Ban me I am just trying to educate myself :61:

Ok I understand your point of view better thank you but you can thank me for the popularity of this thread as it is blowing up because of me :3:
May 22, 2023 at 08:20
(Virgo) Aren Levi » IceSíckle
have you seen my threads ?
Those are bangers and they do not even contain you :5:

But honestly thank you for showing knowledge of your tropical system and specially tropical shortcomings :37:
May 22, 2023 at 08:23
Thanks Aren for quick intro, very useful.
May 22, 2023 at 08:24
(Virgo) Aren Levi » sim
Thanks :15:

I might add some stuff later that could help even more. :37:
May 22, 2023 at 08:24
(Scorpio) IceSíckle » Aren Levi
Da heck you talking about!?!?

Your only good threads are the ones where I make my presence known. Remember all that shit with Mamalina and the AntiChrist? That thread was legendary because of my input as are the other ones I am in :61: :75:

And thank you for using a system that is unequal just like your pride and humility :3:
May 22, 2023 at 08:26
(Taurus) Astro-Seek.com
System message: Post has been written by user Hylonome, who already deleted profile on this website:
Interesting thread, Aren. I have never learnt Vedic because I didn´t really know where to start. This is certainly a good introduction to keep in mind, thank you for sharing 🙂
May 22, 2023 at 08:42
(Virgo) Aren Levi » IceSíckle
Oh wowowo calm down Icey :61:

No need to be hurt by your own decisions :20:

You say i have unequal pride and humility ?
You claim my threads are legendary because of you :61: That thread you mention is legendary because of Mamalina.

my other bangers have no involvement of you so who has unequal humility and needs to calm down his pride ? :61:
You just got humbleded boy but thats okay, you might grow from it :16:

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May 22, 2023 at 08:43
(Virgo) Aren Levi » Hylonome
You are welcome,
if you want any advice when it comes to vedic i am here, but i remind you and anyone reading this that i am not all knowing perfect and masterfull astrologer :4:
I am getting there tho ... :20:

May 22, 2023 at 09:06
(Scorpio) IceSíckle » Aren Levi
What´s wrong? Can´t take the heat from an ICE BOY!? 😤

Yes you need more humility and understanding of perspectives that aren´t your own :4: you cant be living life up your ass all the time :61:

I would hardly Call those thread bangers when most of them are quite toxic and spread with misinformation. Also. Those ones are just average my guy and when I come to the rescue uplift your threads to Heaven when they were going down to Hell :1: :78: :99:
May 22, 2023 at 09:15
(Virgo) Aren Levi » IceSíckle
nahh its Iceyy boii :61:

Again, stop projecting your issues on me.
You are living up your asss with these kinds of messages :15:

So the one you have mentioned with Mamlina and antichrist was not missinformative and toxic ?
Why did you claim it was your doing for it to be banger ? That would mean you are toxic and missinformative ? :61:
Do you read your own hypocrisy Iceyy boii :4:

Those threads i have written were bangers and if you say the opposite .. hey it might be your jealousy.

If they were toxic, i wasnt the one starting it.
They were not missinformative, not by me.
If they had more then 50 replies .. heck even 1 reply is success for me if it brings joy and wisdom to me and the other person.

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