Help me understand LGBT

January 7, 2023 at 13:12 (UT/GMT)
(Sagittarius) risu
Help me understand LGBT
I don´t understand being gay or being trans etc, and I would love to be able to understand.

I just want to point out first that I love and accept these people, I simply don´t understand them.


I just can´t process how people of the same sex could be attracted to each other. I can understand if you want to have a life partner of the same sex, but I can´t comprehend sexual attraction, it just doesn´t make any sense, like magnets for example, 2 of the same side do not attract, 2 opposites do. The only conclusion I can arrive at is that these people are hurt/traumatised, and their behaviour is a result of this. All gay people who I have talked to carry this one same energy, and I can´t very well put it into words, but it makes me further believe that they are hurt.

I don´t know if this is the result of me having Capricorn Mars (Sidereal), and being obliviously traditional. But it´s conjunct Uranus, I thought I would be able to understand it at least hahaha.


And I don´t understand trans, because to me, I was simply born with a male body, and that´s the only thing that makes me male. There´s nothing inside me that determines whether I´m male or female. And If I was born with a female body, then surely I would be attracted to males?

I just want to understand this mostly because I feel unable to decide that I believe LGBT is unhealthy, so I want to be able to be convinced of otherwise.
I´ve never seen someone else with the viewpoint that LGBT is unhealthy/a delusion, whilst also being loving and accepting of them.

All love :79:

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January 7, 2023 at 18:41
(Taurus) Iceblu333
Well... Ummm... this should be fun...

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How do I start... Everyone has different likes... And/Or Wants (Biases)... In everything... Not just sex but everything...

Maybe someone once got into trouble in school and was paddled hard (non-sexually) and they LOVED it... And just kept getting into trouble to have thier lovely time being paddled REALLY HARD... And Harder... And Harder; They even once screamed "Yes, Daddy!"

*while thier eyes were rolled into the back of thier heads with pleasure*

Until the teacher decided to stop paddling them and started putting them in time out instead because the paddled person was enjoying it WAY too much... But by that time... The fetish was born!!!

On a lessor extreme You probably have driven on the highway and heard other peoples music playing in thier cars... And HATED it... Or Liked it... You have Your own predetermined biases and likes and dislikes... That you cannot control.

There are people who like caviar... There are people who detest caviar...

Some people like Donald Trumps personality... Others just hate him...

Ect... I digress...

That is why there´s a saying; "You do you, and I´ll do me"

Meaning; mind your business and I´ll mind mines because some differences cannot easily be understood.

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How can the same sex look at the same sex organ and think "Ohhh that´s Attractive..."? I mean just ask yourself how you feel when you see someone else with the opposite sex parts... They would probably feel the same as you feel about looking at the opposite sex parts...

If that confuses you... And I just found this out myself; Some Trans People play on the fact that men or women are attracted to a certain part of a body... Be it legs, slim figure, butt, ect ect ect.

You can hardly be paying attention and see them without looking at thier face and be like that´s a nice ass... Then boom closer look... OH GOD!!! IT´S A MAN!!! :41: :23: :28:

I´ve been Tricked!!! :42:

But... Let me stop.

Some LGBT women see a Vagina and are like that´s a pretty vagina, then obsess over it until they are find that they want it for themselves... It´s attractive to them... Clean, non entrusive, and she knows how to get it off... She may also dislike men... Or just feel uncomfortable around men and simply like women more. More attracted to a woman. Women know what women want.

Same goes for a LGBT man, he may simply see a large dick and may just be enamored by it... Or had sexual events happen that opened him up to everything possible sexually... What makes him... Get off better and stronger... He may simply like being around guys more because there is no having to act soft around a female and he doesn´t have to be the person saving/helping someone all of the time. Equal power, Equal mental... He´s probably attracted to strength/or strong bodies ect...

This is just my opinion however.

I do not 100% support the LGBT community but I do believe in Gay Marriage (Just not in churches).

Love is love, Hate it or love it.
January 7, 2023 at 19:10
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » Iceblu333
Oh, and just so you won´t be paranoid about "Alpha" males seemingly fitting my description... About being LGBT...

I think most LGBT males hang around females, and not males, mostly because of the shyness of being around stereotypical "Alpha" Male energy. And the fact that they really don´t want to be around something that they are attracted to but simply can´t have.

So, no I´m not saying "all" of the so called Alpha Males fit my description.

What I´m saying is that the Male just may be attracted to a Strong Man. And simply not attracted to a Soft Female.

If you ask any typical LGBT guy if he would date himself, he wouldn´t. I will say alledgely because I don´t feel like searching for the video, but again Alledgedly Jeffrey Star the YouTuber does not like Soft Feminine Men. He´s only attracted to straight/stereotypical built men who look/talk "straight as an Arrow" and throw down in bed like a straight guy as well...

If you asked most LGBT guys if they would date themselves they would probably say no...

But again this is my opinion. And again Alledgedly.
January 7, 2023 at 19:12
(Sagittarius) risu » Iceblu333
Lmao, some good points!

I guess I also don´t fully understand why people don´t value the things I value, such as a strong and truthful personality, or heart-felt passionate music, but I can at least get a grasp on it.

But sexuality is different, because the male and human bodies are literally made for each other, I just can´t even begin to understand it. Oh well :97:
January 7, 2023 at 19:15
(Sagittarius) risu » Iceblu333
But why wouldn´t they just be attracted to a strong woman? hahahah
January 7, 2023 at 19:25
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » risu
"But why wouldn´t they just be attracted to a strong woman? hahahah"

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Because that´s not masculine enough... And they don´t have a Dick...

The closest that you are referring to in that case is why aren´t they attracted to a Trans Person... And again... Trans is not Masculine enough... They Want A MAN! No pretenders!

Alledgedly...
January 7, 2023 at 19:34
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » risu
"I guess I also don´t fully understand why people don´t value the things I value, such as a strong and truthful personality, or heart-felt passionate music, but I can at least get a grasp on it."

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Oh no, a Personality is Different. A Persons values, such as A Strong, and Truthful personality is not acquired until a person has been humbled enough [through hard times] to understand empathy and the values of those traits. Some people have to learn" "Values" and that comes with time. Some still never learn though...

And FYI, you can´t teach them that; only life can.

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"because the male and human bodies are literally made for each other"

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Just because it´s made to be a certain way doesn´t mean that´s how it will be used. There are many poisons that are naturally and Literally meant to kill you but you use them everyday to clean your house, clean yourself, nourish yourself (preservatives)... Ect ect...
January 7, 2023 at 19:51
(Sagittarius) risu » Iceblu333
Maybe these natural poisons can kill you, but I don´t think that means that it´s their actual purpose of existence, to kill humans. Whereas I think the purpose of the sexual organs are to create life with the opposite gender.
January 7, 2023 at 19:53
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » risu
Just because you want something to be a certain way doesn´t mean that´s how it will be.

No one complains when thier Dick is getting sucked... But a mouth is for food and water... Not for sucking dicks...

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January 7, 2023 at 19:59
(Leo) Sunnyshadow » Iceblu333
Read the first parable

Lmao :61:
January 7, 2023 at 20:09
(Sagittarius) risu » Iceblu333
You done got me good sir :61:

But I still can´t get it to click in my head lol
January 7, 2023 at 20:12
(Virgo) rohini moon » risu
^ I misread that as "have dick in my head" and after meandering through this thread I can see why :61: :41: :41: :41:
January 7, 2023 at 20:16
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » risu
Ok :1:
January 7, 2023 at 20:21
(Sagittarius) risu » rohini moon
Not the path I saw this thread taking when I created it :61: :61:
January 8, 2023 at 00:31
(Aries) Wolfmoon
"I don´t understand being gay or being trans etc, and I would love to be able to understand."

You´re not meant to. It´s a mental health condition, or depending on how far down the rabbit hole you want to go, a form of possession.

The Gay idea was fed into western society by the media propaganda. Talked about on TV in the 60s. Episodes about it in the 70s. Characters in the 80s. Whole shows in the 90s. No show without one in the 2000s. Same with Trans. Just a decade behind. Eddie Izzard and Dame Edna etc

It´s all been part of the push to make society unnatural. The eugenics agenda etc

Once society accepts one degenaracy, it´s easier for them to accept another. Next TPTB are trying to normalize sex with animals and children. I don´t care what MSM says is accepted. Those are a hanging offense needless of the "legal system".

The Television is to Tell-a-vision. It builds reality for people to follow. As we live today couldn´t be more far from how we´re meant to be. People are sheep more than they know and will accept whatever fodder is fed to them.

Something in what I´ve said, in what Ice has said will have triggered some people. They won´t have realised until they read this. What triggered you? Where does it stem? What was put into your perception? Was it invited or enforced?

I started a thread about the trans thing some time back

https://forum.astro-seek.com/topic/…

" just can´t process how people of the same sex could be attracted to each other. I can understand if you want to have a life partner of the same sex, but I can´t comprehend sexual attraction, it just doesn´t make any sense"

There´s all sorts of information regarding this. You just have to go looking. It´s psychological. Stems from all sorts of areas. Supposedly the most common is sexual trauma recieved as a child. This could be something horrible or something as subtle as watching a film.

Another is nutrition, the male body isn´t supposed to be filled with as much estrogen that is consumed. All milk and dairy, any soy based products. They all carry estrogen. Near everything in a packet will have a label that says "contains soy". Impotency is a massive thing in society but no one will admit it, or if they do that won´t admit that it´s their diet.

Another is the nature of the upbringing. A nuclear family, balance of Masculine and Feminine, is needed to raise healthy individuals. Not to say that you can´t, it´s just far more difficult.

Why alot of gangs are formed. Lack of male role models so grown children look for other grown children to help fill this void.

The constant badgering by the media about it. If everyone turned their media boxes off, no one would bother even discussing it. Or they wouldn´t be so chucked about having an opinion.

"I just want to understand this mostly because I feel unable to decide that I believe LGBT is unhealthy, so I want to be able to be convinced of otherwise."

I know gay people personally who hate the LGBT community. They don´t feel they need one and don´t feel that everyone should know what they do in their private lives. He and his partner are decent people and they never mention it around others.

But then you do have the other spectrum, the clearly broken ones that have to talk about sucking a dick after 3 minutes of meeting them. They´re desperate to find someone to help them feel comfortable in their inability to cope with whatever they have going on.

Also, statistically, pedophilia is higher amongst the "gay community". Alot of people feel that children shouldn´t be introduced to anything sexual as they´re children. Sex isn´t supposed to be openly discussed no matter what sort it is. Those who obsess over it, porn addicts etc need serious mental help.

But then, all todays modern "psychology" stems from a Jew who believed having sexual attraction to your mother is normal. Or Kinsey, a pedophile who used "science" to rape and abuse children.

"I´ve never seen someone else with the viewpoint that LGBT is unhealthy/a delusion, whilst also being loving and accepting of them."

Two different spectrums. Lack of understanding from both sides. Ultimately, most people just don´t care.

"Stay away from me and mine, ill stay away from you and yours"

Ultimately the question around the trans thing that stumps the argument...

"Why should I accept someone who´s not willing to accept themselves?"
January 8, 2023 at 01:17
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » Wolfmoon
"But then, all todays modern "psychology" stems from a Jew who believed having sexual attraction to your mother is normal."

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The Jews!?!?!? :39:

The Jews!?!?!? :39:

... Are you secretly Kanye West?

How could you talk about the Jews!!! :39:

[Banned :61:]
January 8, 2023 at 11:59
(Leo) Spung » Iceblu333
Jew or not Jew, but I found it quite shocking when I first heard that the founder of netflix is related to a guy who pretty much invented propaganda, and who himself was related to Freud... very disturbing circle. I tried once to watch some netflix trans series, wanting to get some understanding. I couldn´t get through the first episode though, too dark, all the lying and cheating shown as a natural way to go through life, following your animal instincts. No wonder there is so much confusion and depression in that community. So no, Freud is not my guy. I prefer Frankl, who was also a Jew and survived Holocaust, and his search for meaning concepts, consciousness over unconsciousness.
January 8, 2023 at 12:06
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » Spung
I was being sarcastic... If you didn´t notice.

I don´t watch normal TV or shows anymore so I don´t know what show/movie you are talking about.

And yes, I agree with the confusion. It´s like it´s being done on purpose to destroy the youth and thier future...

The elites want people dumb so that they can control them. Most don´t even know what they are voting for; look at Cardi b now. Complaining about inflation but what she don´t realize is that she voted for the person who caused and can stop this rampant inflation... And won´t... :85:
January 8, 2023 at 12:09
(Sagittarius) risu » Wolfmoon
That helps me be more comfortable with how I feel about it, and helps me be able to trust myself next time I have a very opposing view, thanks for the reply!
January 8, 2023 at 12:09
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » Spung
Edited *

Cardi b rants about inflation....


Link:


https://youtu.be/Ge1Be13TVZw
YouTube
YouTube
January 8, 2023 at 12:22
(Taurus) Iceblu333 » Spung
This is what you´re children are being influenced by...

Link;

https://youtu.be/6KcGCKs3yeM
YouTube
YouTube
January 8, 2023 at 12:35
(Aries) shkico
> I just can´t process how people of the same sex could be attracted to each other.

you can ask the same question about literally anything else. like i ask myself why would someone be attracted to tattoos. some people like them, some people think they are hideous
January 8, 2023 at 13:01
11
Actually in Chris Brennan’s book Saturn is the one associated with unnatural lusts, depravity, “pederastic relationship between two males”..

I want to believe that humans are not same as animals. We shouldn’t become slaves to our senses (but that is, what constant propaganda all around encourages to do), although we should have morals and some higher purpose in life.

When u spend so much time thinking do I really relate to my gender, that must be some perversion of thought pattern. And again tied to sexuality, senses..
it is hard comprehend, why these things happen and in such big amounts now more than ever. But I also think, that those, who are worried and not ok with this, show more love and care, than for example those parents, who allow their child to do gender surgery.

Especially it is confusing, when it is tied together with spiritual matters, like saying soul has no gender.
But this movement seems not about that at all, but very body, bodily functions, sex, sexual appetite, sexual behaviors, fashion, makeup (the trans movements, who dress up), very material focused, has nothing to do with spiritual matters. That’s why I see it as perversion. U can go much farther, when letting lusts and senses rule over your life with no limits.
January 8, 2023 at 13:18
(Sagittarius) risu » 11
That´s interesting, because I thought Cap Mars would be the best at not allowing lusts and senses to rule over their actions.
January 8, 2023 at 13:33
(Taurus) Rosincvist
The climax of televangelism was the notion that prayer could magically turn young gay men into straight men!
An ex-basketball player in my former neighbourhood who was permitted by Republicans to look over everybody´s fences said he went through a semi-gay "phase"; I told him no one goes through a semi-gay "phase" and he was enraged for quite some time!
Environmental factors mean developing embryos are tampered with more radically each generation!
A certain portion of high-testosterone male foetuses are aborted because the carrying mother has a "healthy immune system"
You would never know w/o intensive investigation how many low-testosterone males actually carry Lesbian genes, because after all! No one associates a dick with anything that has to do with hardcore Lesbianism!
January 8, 2023 at 13:46
11 » risu
Saturn is known also for his work ethics..

“Saturn produces tax collectors, those who acquire great reputation, notable rank”

“Indicates spirit (demonic) possession”
“Childlessness, those who are unmarried”
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