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Do people become more like their sun or ascendant as they get older?
June 27, 2022 at 13:28 (UT/GMT)

Do people become more like their sun or ascendant as they get older?
I have read both of these claims.
The idea of the sun is that we earn it, and maybe move further away from our moon.
The same for the ascendant,
The idea of the sun is that we earn it, and maybe move further away from our moon.
The same for the ascendant,

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June 27, 2022 at 13:35

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No we just become more like ourselves as we get older, the immature brain needs guidance and some don´t know how to turn off learner mode and actually use their own brains.
Also the age is 25 on average for critical thinking, this is due to the prefrontal cortex development.
Which coincides with how stupid younger people are vs people around 30 or more after the first Saturn return.
https://paradigmtreatment.com/teens…

June 27, 2022 at 14:50

Which means that it depends for everybody. People whose ascendant is afflicted will probably become more like their ascendant (if they succeed in recognizing their problems and changing themselves), but people whose ascendant is not afflicted probably won´t.

June 27, 2022 at 16:16


June 27, 2022 at 16:36
plumreme
"The idea of the sun is that we earn it, and maybe move further away from our moon.
The same for the ascendant"
I´m feeling this to be personally true lately, anyway. I´ve always felt my sun with me, but way moreso my moon and rising (which are together). I´ve felt like I have to grow toward both my MC (afflicted by the moon/Nep) and Sun (focal point of T square with generational opposition most of the earth has) *through* maturing that moon - which is maybe going "away" from it. Sun almost feels like a resolution/destination point for me now.
Also thinking a lot on the tension between and differences in, as we age, the AS and MC.
The same for the ascendant"
I´m feeling this to be personally true lately, anyway. I´ve always felt my sun with me, but way moreso my moon and rising (which are together). I´ve felt like I have to grow toward both my MC (afflicted by the moon/Nep) and Sun (focal point of T square with generational opposition most of the earth has) *through* maturing that moon - which is maybe going "away" from it. Sun almost feels like a resolution/destination point for me now.
Also thinking a lot on the tension between and differences in, as we age, the AS and MC.

June 27, 2022 at 16:48

I would say for me I don´t quite feel like my Sun Sign completely. Only in certain circumstances the Scorpio Sun presents itself. I live life more through my Rising sign whether I´m around others or not.

June 27, 2022 at 17:02



June 27, 2022 at 18:19

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soemone once said to me the Sun-Principle is lived more at childhood ... and wehn i think back on my life this makes pretty good sense ... the other aspects come through during teenage years ... but you re not neccessarily inclining towards the AC wich is really nothing more then a type of first impression fassade ! ... try to see the horoscope like a group of people (the planets) thrown toegether wehn you are born , and it takes them a while to figure out eachother ... during early life thefirst mishaps (squares) come up but also good workings together (conjuctions) and so on ...

June 27, 2022 at 20:00


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June 27, 2022 at 21:07

June 27, 2022 at 21:31

We have a choice, which part of our personality to show.
Our sun self side, our mars assertive side, mercury intellect objective side or our loving venus side etc.
People act on all these at the appropriate time & situation.
Loving venus with family, mars with adversaries, and so on.
Person can choose which side he wants emphasize more to grow in, be more loving, be more assertive, be more diplomatic & detached calculating etc.
And he/she shall become that way, with developing habits, routine & mindsets.
But situations can trigger this change too, when one is on his/her venus side, and he/she gets badly hurt, by being too personal with another.
Might then shift their mannerism to emphasize their mercury side,
By being objective more detached and calculating before going into personal matters & opening his/hers venus.
Hope that helps gives some insights

Cheers


June 27, 2022 at 21:39

Even if my Taurus sun is in harmony whith my Libra ASC due to natural ruler Venus, i always feel more my 8th house crazy gemini moon and the Pluto in 1st conjunct ASC make me always feel like scorpion. reserve, introspective, heavy energy.
But as astrologers always said.. if your Taurus! You always going to be Taurus! I dont even like to eat men!!!!

June 27, 2022 at 21:51

I feel it just like! Maybe we are meant to integrate the energy of the ASC as we progress.
I always felt i add difficult expressing my ascendant util recently... and i am 40th!!! But a couples years ago i change... my ASC. I change my hair, i get thinner because of work...i dress black and get into astrology. When i start to read about progressions i realize that my ASC as progressed to Scorpion in that year. Even with a great interest a part of me remain "agnostic"... i can´t explain it but people don´t even reconise me.
I turn darker but more aprotchable and a more confident.

June 27, 2022 at 22:07

We are so complex and i learn new things about myself every day .


June 28, 2022 at 10:00


And you have similar thoughts for the sun?

June 28, 2022 at 10:03


June 28, 2022 at 10:05

I do agree with the idea that the sun is the ideal though

June 28, 2022 at 10:11

Do you feel the influence of this also?

June 28, 2022 at 11:06

If your Venus is heavily afflicted, there is a high probability of problems arising in the sphere of relationships and love life, this is very likely to be an area where you will want to change yourself. In the process, and if you succeed, you are very likely to adopt qualities and an overall attitude that makes you closer to a positive/constructive archetype of the sign where your Venus is located in.
The same goes for the Sun, Mars, the Ascendant, and every other personal stuff in the chart.

June 28, 2022 at 12:40


June 28, 2022 at 12:47

In childhood and adolescence, I was as emotional as Cancer but as I grew up, things changed and I felt like a Leo, with harsh-tongued and detached. My loved ones said I act and look like a Capricorn.
The problem is, I have no Capricorn placements except Lilith and SN in 1H. I really wonder if it is possible to stick to SN forever. In a sense I reject evolving into NN in Cancer in 7H. I still feel inecure about home issues, children and marriage. It is not the life I want.

June 28, 2022 at 13:56

I do notice my Sun qualities more as I grow older, I didn´t relate to them as much before. I don´t think the ascendant qualities change too much but I feel like they are more an outer layer... if I may, compare this to a pizza

All the parts of our chart speak in their respective areas.
I see my ascendant qualities come out more when I am in new and unfamiliar situations. It´s the part we consciously present in new situations and that initiates out to approach the world and people around us. I dont think its changed but I dont identify with it that deep. I almost feel like the IC is more like who are "deep down", the stuff we´re made of.

June 29, 2022 at 12:41

But would you say this is the experience of the average person?

June 29, 2022 at 12:55

People who I do not know
Ahhahaha the ic, idk if I’m very Capricorn-ish. Hm maybe a bit
I’m looking forward to be being more like my sun tbh

June 29, 2022 at 14:46

The more afflicted a planet is, the more problems she leads to.
Even if your main flaw is let´s say a lack of self-consciousness (Neptune opposing the Sun for example ?), there will eventually be people in your life to tell you that you should realize this or that.
It depends on the affliction, how many problems it leads too, how altering these problems are to the person´s overall happiness, what impact they have on the person´s life.
In that process of changing, there can be people surrounding us that will help you get better, but one can also be born in a family or around people who will not only encourage them to continue manifesting their flaws, but who will even make them worse, and those people will need more time to get better.
But basically, someone with a very weak and heavily afflicted Mercury is very likely, at some point in his/her life, to learn how to communicate better, if Mercury is in Taurus, the person will keep a naturally Taurus way of communicating, but it won´t be as messy as before, manifesting a purer Taurus way of communicating.
If it´s the Ascendant and the person is Aries Rising, the person may suffer feeling that she has trouble using the qualities of Aries as she lacks confidence in herself, and someday she begins gaining confidence and one year later she appears as an Aries in her overall way of being.

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