.1Astrology9. - Discussions, questions

Kisses I still check transits but I give less significance to them now since I’ve started using the law of assumption more

Catch-22 I thought they just wanted to see how well they fit with that significant other. Synastry here, synastry there.

Perhaps that´s shit too

Rosincvist ...Can the Science of Astrology truly be the target of those who would turn back the clock to a false illusion of greater simplicity and ease!
Using the words that jump off the page `clean-Aquairinum-fuel´
The more pristine and untouched the Unobtanium the more unexpected the final transfer!

Aren Levi » Catch-22 Do not get me started on those stupid synastry questions

but if it makes people less insecure about their significant others ... whatever.

Aren Levi » Kisses Honestly,
last thing that makes me interested in any peoples charts are their Rahu placements.

Transits influence people but they do not make things for people.

Aren Levi » Rosincvist I believe that there is beautiful peace in simplicity of spiritual knowledge for majority of humans.

Playing with ultimate truth that we all have written in our birth is daring and can end up being venturous.

stellium12 Hate to see you given up on astrology. Before you completely sign off come on over to the western side. From my opinion many use astrology for something it isn´t meant for. To me it is about self discovery and understanding people you come in contact with. I know this will upset a lot of people but it isn´t about what is in your future, are you compatible with your partner, what career is best for you etc.

When you get into sidereal astrology it is very fatalistic and I could never resonate with it. I am very skeptical and listening to sidereal astrologists they come across to me as scam artists. They push fear so you keep coming back for more.

I know personally, that astrology explained a lot of things in my life and got me to accept myself and to be content with who and what I am. I often compared myself to others but felt out of place. It was through astrology with the placements and aspects that I discovered this is my normal. Applying it to others it made me understand what they are about.

Aren Levi » stellium12 You must have misread my post or i have badly written it.

I love vedic astrology and i believe in it.
Same goes for Western.
Hell, any system.

I just hit boredom in using it on people.

I am getting interested in global influence and generational more then individualistic.

stellium12 » Aren Levi That´s cool. There are some interesting astrologers who look at planetary positions to predict world events and trends. Not sure how accurate they are but fun to watch their interpretation.

Joanna Suzanne » Aren Levi Maybe asking about synastry is stupid, but that´s what astrology is. It´s stupid.

In my opinion it should be used only for the entertainment, not as a Spiritual or religious belief. I saw a lot of strange questions on this forum, some of them I asked myself. Hopefully, I will get out of this. It has been an addiction during difficult times. It doesn´t work anymore.

Aren Levi » stellium12 I agree

Aren Levi » Joanna Suzanne Nahh

it really all works if used properly by skilled people.

I just find the synastry usage completely ridiculous.
Especially for people that do not even know each other.

OS* » Joanna Suzanne -Maybe asking about synastry is stupid, but that´s what astrology is. It´s stupid.

and here you are making a forum tread asking about your Navamsa chart. Smh.



It doesn´t work anymore."

There´s a way out. Remember, you have freewill to remove yourself, from it.

Joanna Suzanne » OS* Yes, I asked about navamsa out of curiosity. I like interpretation of charts and this is my guilty pleasure. Whatever will be in the chart will not be absolute truth to me.

I hope to get out of toxic spirituality, but it´s hard, I was exposed to this very early, when i was a teenager. It take time to fully get out of it. Some concepts still sit in my head.

Graham 9 out of 10 people are not "ready to hear" the messages of astrology (at the time when it is delivered) ... so most astrologers will become bored of delivering messages which go unheard.

Yet ... whenever 1 of those 10% hears a message that enables them to turn a difficult life around, the interest (of the bored astrologer who delivered it) is invariably renewed.

Moreover, one should never underestimate the value of leaving messages on the table of those who are "not yet ready to hear" ... since many of them will become ready at a later date.

Morena_Lu » Joanna Suzanne I think that people expect that astrology is like some crystal ball made for predictions only- will I have kids, will I be with him/her, will I gain this or that?

It is not, it is more to discover yourself, to understand others, help them grow. We are all humans, we are all imperfect.

It can be dangerous if we have some fatalistic approach, some people will not date someone because of that aspect, sign...it is almost ridiculous. Also, I think that a lot of people need psychological help more than astrology, they are depressed, in problems, lack of faith is present there, low self-esteem...

I think that people should believe more in themselves.



I agree with Jung.

According to Jung´s teachings, the collective unconscious is common to all human beings. 1 Jung also believed that the collective unconscious is responsible for a number of deep-seated beliefs and instincts, such as spirituality, sexual behavior, and life and death instincts...

Jung’s Understanding of Astrology

More than just defining astrology as art, technique or science, Jung recognized that astrology provides a “psychological description of character,”[19] with the planets corresponding “to the individual character components.”[20] He felt “the horoscope is the chronometric equivalent of individual character, through all the characterological components of the personality,”[21] and that a person’s natal chart could provide insights into “what her [the patient’s] soul intended for her to achieve.”[22] Our natal chart, in other words, is like a mandala of our soul’s plan for this incarnation.

By comparing the movement of the planets through the year to one’s natal chart, in the process of examining the “transits,” Jung felt we can get an example of synchronicity in action: Transits provide a “meaningful coincidence of planetary aspects and positions with the character or the existing psychic state of the questioner,”[23] on the individual level, and insights into “unconscious, introspective perceptions of the activity of the collective unconscious”[24] on the collective level.

These insights can be for short temporal frames–months or years of a society’s activities–and for the much longer millennial time frames of eons. Jung got the epithet “father of the New Age”[25] for his idea of how the “collective psyche” of the human race changes with the “end of one Platonic month and at the beginning of another.”[26] He felt obligated, as a medical doctor, to alert people to the nature of our time–how we are living through a major cosmic transformation as the age of Pisces gives way to the age of Aquarius.

Aren Levi » Graham I know,
and i agree,
maybe i will return to human astrology in the future

OS* » Joanna Suzanne I don’t know what your past is or your motivations, what exactly you’re trying to exhort here. but I do see you comment very often on theses forums treads saying -astrology is not real, astrology has no effect, astrology is stupid.
etc.

It’s nice to have more than one pass-time, perhaps something you’re not constantly criticizing or complaining about. . .



-I hope to get out of toxic spirituality, but it´s hard, I was exposed to this very early, when i was a teenager. It take time to fully get out of it. Some concepts still sit in my head.

I hope so, for you.

Joanna Suzanne » OS* People here are trying to find solutions to serious problems.
I know I reacted too many times with similar posts, but I´m mad that people who need help are getting astrogical explanations that are beyond their control. There is a lot of new age stuff everywhere, when you are looking for help. It can keep a person stuck.

I will stop writing posts.

Honestly, I liked astrology as any of you, but after seeing it´s not reflecting the reality I have doubts. Sometimes predictions working, sometimes not - it looks like a coincidence.

Aren Levi » Joanna Suzanne It always works,

but many people do not know how it works so they do not help others correctly.

Nos sonhadores i smell typical virgo pessimism and over exagarated emphasis on idk ... ?tristesse? i bet you coulda been touching anything wether astrology voodoo or what ever ... but i know this feeling of seeing shit everywhere and let me tell you the thing is not the astrology but what you put your focus on and what kind of moods one radiates , attracts etc.... learn to be creator and not just observer if everything turns into too mutch negativity ....usually i GUESS seein all that negativity means you gotta convert it into something good or at least be a cathalyst for it ... like helping hand or what ever ... i m not quite sure yet myself what it means

Aren Levi » Nos sonhadores Thanks,
but i just feel bored by astrology connected to human charts.
I did not post this thread as some hate letter, but i was asking what makes other people enthusiastic about human astrologyy so i can find that spark again.

As i wrote above, my personal life is better then it ever was and that makes me cut off unnecessary activities that do not make me happy right now.

InfiniteVoyageXIII&VII Totally agree with you. But calling it as "human astrology" is wrong, it´s natal astrology. The reason of this is effort to transform astrology into materialist discipline.

Aren Levi » InfiniteVoyageXIII&VII I know but i really like the sound of "human astrology"

Nos sonhadores » Aren Levi because other people have trouble understanding people ... and astrology is a tool that may help them ... success not guarenteed ... like with pretty everything in the world ... maybe you simply don t need it if it already feels boring to you ?!?!