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Institutions falling away
December 11, 2021 at 15:42 (UT/GMT)

Institutions falling away
Isn´t it interesting that Pluto in Capricorn in the time of Covid/lockdowns/mandates is bringing about the fall of gov´t, educational and religious systems to bring about a new way of seeing the world?
Pluto is the planet of transformation after all and Capricorn rules structures, institutions and systems of governance.
Pluto is the planet of transformation after all and Capricorn rules structures, institutions and systems of governance.

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December 11, 2021 at 16:54

During Pluto in Sagittarius there was crisis of the shared moral/international framework because of what followed after 9/11, a sense of moral malaise and confusion worldwide, and loss of faith in said framework, but it wasn´t as deeply pervasive and seemingly irreversible as what is happening now. It seemed that only someone else has to be elected, other than Bush, somebody more proper and a little bit normal has to be voted in for things to be restored.
Now we have USA Pluto Return, Pluto conjunct Saturn in 2020 all in Capricorn contributing to it. So it´s not only Pluto in Capricorn.. it´s so intensified.
I don´t know if it´s about new way of seeing the world - certainly, with so much change. But change isn´t always for the better.
Funny to see how every time Pluto passes the 25-ish? degree we kinda start thinking that this is how things will stay.. there is feeling of getting used to the new status quo, the world of Pluto in X sign. But for people who know astrology it is known that the next sign is coming fast.
I don´t know what to say more other that I´m eager to see the first signs of Aquarius. What is happening now is so deeply messed up.
I´m sure Pluto in Aquarius can possibly generate a different kind of hell in time, I mean if we are to reform societies fundamentally, things have to become even worse, and lots of force has to be used, but at least it´s nice to experience the simplicity / pureness of the 0-9 degrees of every transit, and a change of the tired Capricorn theme and focus will be welcome.

December 11, 2021 at 16:59


December 11, 2021 at 17:13

Moving out of the age of Pisces into Aquarius will also bring further technological changes/concerns but also a sense of breaking free of stagnant thought forms that Pluto in Capricorn has encompassed. Societal institutions must be broken down so new ones can emerge. We have to break a few eggs to make our omelet.

December 11, 2021 at 17:18


December 12, 2021 at 09:54

If anyone is disillusioned then perhaps something deeper is/has happened

December 12, 2021 at 10:36

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What may be a bad example but illustrative is how many people don´t stop at stop signs anymore. They slow down but don´t stop. What changed? They have lost the discipline to impose the rule upon themselves when no one is watching. I think you can extrapolate this to other things.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

December 12, 2021 at 15:51

Uranus and Jupiter are liberator energies but they are not in the best signs right now, leaving the Capricorn and Saturn energies with too much power.

December 12, 2021 at 16:04

Good summary here: https://medium.com/astrolab21/…

December 13, 2021 at 16:29

So firstly nothing is really a surprise now.
However for my second point though I admit that we have been given unprecedented freedoms than ever before but also think that there is a cost for that. And maybe we´re finally starting to
see that more and more.
Oh without a doubt X percent of rules are also more arbitrary than before. Partially because they contradict with our overall newfound sense of freedom

December 13, 2021 at 17:31

So back to the original question, "Institutions falling away." For me, the US federal government is getting bigger and bigger, becoming more intrusive and more controlling. Now with the vaccine mandate, it may be the "straw that broke the camels back" so to speak. I don´t know how many will refuse to get vaccinated and how many will be willing to lose their jobs to avoid getting it. But as someone else mentioned on a different thread, when you loose everything and have nothing else to loose, you can become very unpredictable. Individual freedom still reign high in the center US. For history , look when the US banned alcohol, (prohibition). It didn´t go as the government expected.
As I said earlier, it will be interesting how this all plays out.

December 13, 2021 at 17:42


December 13, 2021 at 20:15

Uranus, on the other hand, revels in chaos. It is a most mischievous archetype that represents the urge to break free from all the limits, rules and restrictions imposed by Saturn."
New World Order? Sounds like an AI driven (Uranus) order of law (Saturn or is Jupiter law?)
"Saturn is the great boundary maker. It limits, restricts, confines. It is compelled to define and structure the world and bring order to chaos.
Uranus, on the other hand, revels in chaos. It is a most mischievous archetype that represents the urge to break free from all the limits, rules and restrictions imposed by Saturn."
Sounds like burst of the internet bubble in 1999/2000. And:
"From the perspective of the Sa/Ur cycle, we can see this first quarter square in the year 2000 as a point of adjustment: a revaluing and retooling of the entire tech sector. The next phase in the cycle would witness the potent combination of wireless networks and smartphone technologies that pushed the internet age to new heights."
"The current Saturn/Uranus cycle began with the last exact conjunction — which occurred in February of 1988 — when these two planets met at 29º Sagittarius. "
A lot of technology had come out in 1984-1988 (The Mac and NextStep, both from Steve Jobs), digital synthesizers like the Yamaha DX7, Prophet VS (last synth) which changed music culture rather dramatically.
"
2009 was the housing crises, feeling it really deeply.
But what happens in 2021?
"During the tech bubble of 2000, what was disrupted (Uranus) was Big Tech (Aquarius), which caused limits and losses (Saturn) to the financial markets (Taurus). This time around, a scenario could play out where the disruption (Uranus) will occur in the financial markets (Taurus), causing limits and losses (Saturn) to Big Tech (Aquarius)."
Uranus is in its fall in Taurus. Is Bitcoin going to fall? (Bitcoin is from 2009) "It’s also interesting to note that the opposition occurred while Uranus was in dreamy and deceptive Pisces," So bitcoin was an answer to the deception but is it now a deception? That´s the question...

December 20, 2021 at 16:19

They haven´t let Anyone leave for almost two years and now only the vaccinated can leave.
Even that may not last for much longer if they are concerned about "Complete quarantining" of the entire country from he outside world.
Furthermore if you weren´t in your state when state lockdowns occured you may have been locked out and unable to return to you family for 4 + months.
This country he been paranoid and authoritarian like this for awhile though. Don´t believe the postage stamp with a guy in a hat drinking a beer.
However having said this. The virus situation is unprecedented. And some countries are being worse about it than others.
My point was just to say that we have gained so much freedom over the last 60 or so years and have "relative gains". Liberation etc. But maybe it´s not worth so very much when big businesses control the economy and democracy gets swung out the window at times like these.
Absolutely taking away basic freedoms contradicts the basic rights that we are used to. Maybe now people will realise that freedom is an illusion

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