Black moon lilith conjunct ascendant in 1st house - Discussions, questions

11 I´ve noticed this is very popular topic and have been discussed many times in Forum

Etherealmind » 11 Yeah I feel like people have a sort of fascination for this placement.

Some people don´t really understand the deep meaning of and just consider the superficial interpretations of it.

11 » Etherealmind Maybe that’s why people try to find out more about it ? Cause they don’t understand.

And fascination, cause there is truly something about it, that causes strong reactions!

AmberMoon » 11 There´s no aspect to my Ascendant in my chart but I have Lilith at about 30° from Asc, in H1.

And I also feel these strong reactions from the outside world that I don´t understand.

Can´t tell if it´s Lilith but to stay within the theme, men are always worried or suspicious or scared, also.

11 » AmberMoon I think it’s because you can’t hide your shadow side. It’s in frontline.
You might think all is ok with you (which is true), cause you were born that way. But for others it can be a trigger

Aren Levi I have Mars, Pluto, Juno, Lilith and chiron 1st house + scorp asc

in sidereal all in scorp


i feel satisfaction in creating "taboo" situations in other peoples lifes and mine too

dont know if it is because of these placements

i always like to look for line that seperates "good" and "bad"


men and women likes to touch me

Etherealmind » 11 True !

"And fascination, cause there is truly something about it, that causes strong reactions! "

What kind of reactions ?

I´d like to know if it also correlates with my personal experiences for now (I have ASC but I feel like I experience it in a more inner way, it´s more about my soul´s will !! ).

Each person is a unique case ofc but there must be similar tendencies !

11 » Etherealmind For example this strong reaction to make repetitious posts about it

I think similarity could be daring nature. Provoking with your being and presence

Etherealmind » 11 I think similarity could be daring nature. Provoking with your being and presence

Hmmm in that case you´re talking about my Leo Venus lol

More seriously I always get confused with this placement lol cause it´s also conjunct my Pluto ASC and as it can have similarities with it´s hard to differentiate them on a same angle. For me is more about soul´s will and is about magnetism.

11 » Etherealmind So you have double effect.
Must have some additions aspects, that make you also skeptical, fact checker.

Ways_of_Leavin' Oh, not the Ascendant, but I do have her conjunct my MC..! And asteroid Lilith (1181) is right on my ASC😮

I´m not really sure how she manifests in my life... I read recent posts (here and other forum) that often, when she is conjunct your MC the native seem to provoke strong reactions in others, and often people might respond negatively. I could agree with this; I often feel as though my mere presence simply annoys a lot of people (though also some people instantly like me a lot). Not to sound like I´m bragging or something but many people seem mesmerized by me or something. Maybe it´s also Sun Aqua/Pisces ASC though, making me a bit of a weirdo idk. Also Pluto H8 Scorpio I heard could cause this. Or even Sun hard Pluto - people can dislike you for no reason, even take out their bad stuff on you.

I also read about sexualization. That´s also true for me I suppose. I guess I don´t mind it either tbh - which might be something more unusual. Even in the workplace I often receive very, um, strange comments. Maybe it´s because I have Lilith conjunct MC.

Well, it´s an interesting topic! I need to pay more attention to Lilith. Following this thread...

Etherealmind » 11 Must have some additions aspects, that make you also skeptical, fact checker.

Hahaha indeed

Ways_of_Leavin' » Aren Levi Oh, I also have often these people who are very "touchy" with me... Always thought it had sth to do with my Venus cnj ASC square Mars. Maybe it´s really because of Lilith 🤔

Though sometimes I remember as a kid, some people would just hug me. I mean random strangers. I think they noticed that I was unhappy, and wanted to show me support ? Lost-looking Pisces Asc ? Idk... But, mostly it´s in this um non-supportive way which I guess you are referring to

Etherealmind » Ways_of_Leavin' even Sun hard Pluto - people can dislike you for no reason, even take out their bad stuff on you.

Okay I think I won the lottery HAHAHA here.

For my part, it´s more about not managing to control these 2 planets sometimes and as my ASC is also involved in the square it creates very paradoxical feelings regarding my public image but I´m working on it and I improve myself through years I can see and feel it

Ways_of_Leavin' » Etherealmind :D I have that as well, Sun square Pluto. Square to Pluto in Scorpio H8. I swear - sometimes people act like volcanos near me !! But it has eased now with age. I have noticed, that it depends a lot on my mood and general ´state´. Also ofc general attitude. I have learned not to take shit from people. Guess it´s sth ppl notice

Oh I´m life path 8 in numerology btw🤪

Etherealmind » Ways_of_Leavin' Oh really ? In my case I´ve never had big issues with people ! It´s more about learning to control both planets correctly cause it can create big energy blocages which can create lots of anger (mainly inner) and people can feel it even if you don´t want people to notice/feel it. It can create low vibes in the atmosphere.

Ways_of_Leavin' » Etherealmind Yes, I think you are right... it was what I was thinking also; inner tension translates into outer tension (just - it seems more so for Plutonians ?).

Asteroid Dejanira is conjunct my ASC as well. So, it could be the reason for victimization. Actually, asteroid Lilith + Dejanira + Venus + ASC are all conjunct ! That probably also affects my relatioms to people.

Guess when one learns to feel content everything will be alright.

Aren Levi » Ways_of_Leavin' random strangers hugging kid

i think your Venus and Lilith both do create your experiences

ye, i remember only one time when somebody touched me in a supportive way ( excluding family )

AmberMoon » Ways_of_Leavin' This is an interesting transposition.

So, in your experience whatever happens on the Ascendant with Lilith, here at MC manifests as concentrated to your professional life, right.

And when you leave work, how do things change comparatively?

AmberMoon » Aren Levi For an H1 like that to be a 😁 touch magnet, hm, are you trying to create a self-fulfilling prophecy 😄

Ways_of_Leavin' » Aren Levi Okayyy not small kiddo! Haha sorry I was unspecific. It happened even in high school. Like I would be with a group of friends, and some random person would just grab me to hug me. Maybe it´s normal where you live, but in Norway people are not so touchy-feely, at least not with strangers, so it was in fact something I perceived as unusual... (but maybe in Italy or something it could be quite common ? ...)

And I did not enjoy it actually. Because it made me feel um victimized or something. Like, I am someone who obviously needs support ?! (lol...) If it would not be on the street or something like that, in a more personal or private setting, ofc it´s different..

Ways_of_Leavin' » AmberMoon I´m not sure... I feel this energy is mostly with me everywhere hmm... I wonder about asteroid Lilith conjunct Asc, maybe that´s why (I read all the Liliths have different meanings though - just I´m no Lilith expert)

Just some people come with very inappropriate comments at work... Even in front of everybody. I mean, some do not try to hide it at all. Which makes me really wonder if it is in fact Lilith - that she somehow makes one signalize that ´it´s OK´ ?? Some of it caught me totally by surprise. Like, it was definitely not something coming from me - or at least not intentionally. It happens not only at work though, but other public settings (MC?). It just seems some people get very vocal and feel they can say ´whatever´. And I think it´s not what most people experience, at least not from what I have noticed. (Well, I have heard about much stranger stuff, but at least it was more private or subtle). I get a feeling sometimes, that I´m ´on display´. In various ways. But people commenting me, and what I do, in public. Guess it´s something I as a 12th house Sun and Saturn feel uncomfortable about (exposure) hmm. (But that stuff would make a lot of people uncomfortable - more uncomfortable than me myself.)

Aren Levi » Ways_of_Leavin' i get you,

well, if they did not grab your ass while hugging, they do not know how to hug

yee, Northern people are too cold, also people from england i heard

Aren Levi » AmberMoon "trying to create a self-fulfilling prophecy " explain this to me

i think my prophecy or destiny is not to be a toy of others if i do not wish to be

AmberMoon » Aren Levi Well, just that I would never advertently touch a such embodiment of Pluto, flanked by Mars and Lilith in domic.

I would touch Cancerian H1 though 😁they´re obviously asking for it... (for the record: joke).