What makes you Convinced of astrology? - Discussions, questions

viv Astrology works!
As astrologer Renn Butler says “astrology is a tool, to say you don’t believe in astrology is like saying you don’t believe in gardening! “
That said I haven’t been willing to be publicly “out” as an astrologer til now, because I didn’t want to have to defend it in my very medical model workplaces. Standing for art therapy was radical enough. There probably were some past life persecution stories hanging around too. Best Viv

fishscales Read a book about Pisces I found at the library when I was about 6, and realized there was no way in hell I was not a Pisces...

In more recent times, little tidbits of information from more minor influences, like asteroids, remind me that there is definitely something to it...

Kasperanza https://youtu.be/fAzKB_3IXeQ

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I read about Vincent van Gogh and that he not only shared my birthday but also that he was Cancer rising. That was a major clue. From there on the information just became more and more detailed, I couldn´t believe how accurate it was.

No psychologist could have ever told me about this level of detail. So that was obviously a clue. But I had also read that astrology is a pseudoscience and all that. For me, if there is a model which predicts reality better than current ones, I take it!

I went to study mathematical modelling which I never finished and I´m not sure if I ever will with my Saturn transit now. So yeah, it works! Maybe not as I would like to but that´s the whole point. There is a mechanism of influence.

It is my opinion that the ascendant is the most important factor beside the date of your birth of course because it puts all the houses in place and because it is hidden, it is so close, it is a big part of your identity and I would see a map of psychological ideas like anima, animus, id, ego, super ego and astrological placements. That is my goal eventually. I will wait...

astreo As they say ... ´´ Astrology is psychology´s beloved sister ´´


Many psychologists are against astrology because they say that it is a pseudoscience and they refuse to read even a little.

Read and compare it with various birth charts of people you know. You´ll be surprised...

fishscales » astreo "Many psychologists are against astrology because they say that it is a pseudoscience"

Yes, says the group whose entire discipline is based on personal theories...

When did such a thing become "science"?

fishscales » fishscales The state of modern psychology:

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I always asked myself why people behave the way they do and that actually brougt me to astrology.
I found my truth within it.

astreo » fishscales Yes

I have been to psychological therapy with several people and, it seems to bother them that I talk about astrology, because they want to see themselves rigorously scientific with their methodology.

Like the classic by Iván Petróvich Pavlov and his "CLASSIC CONDITIONING" OR THE "OPERATING CONDITIONING".

The Tarot has a lot of psychology and, instead of being interested in learning a little, they seem to take offense at being seen as "tarot readers."

rohini moon » fishscales I said it before and I´ll say it again

Why would Anyone ever take health advice from a fat person? That´s number one..Nevermind a transvestite fat person.

They really play too much.

nikkia There´s very little I am convinced of, generally speaking. Leaving room for doubt is the space that allows for wonder and possibility.

Astrology is not something I SWEAR is the end-all and be-all to All.

My background has always been a bit ´mystical´ or ´out there´ as some might say. I´ve always enjoyed Astronomy, so this is a perfect companion interest.
I love learning about movement of the Cosmic clock.

The people in my life just roll their eyes... and accept that I find astrology interesting enough to ´waste my time´ with... like useless hobby. Not one of them care a lick about it.

Astrology is something that´s just for ME - because I see its value in my life.

LotusStar I wasn´t really convinced when I was just reading zodiac signs and personality traits (until I discovered there was a whole multi-layered chart on top of just sun sign and ascendant). But what really convinced me was when I started to track and notice effects of some full moons, eclipses, retrograde, transits... It just works.

There´s a few times I tried to drop it just wanted to live my life without thinking about it anymore but anytime something big or crazy happened I couldn´t resist the urge to check and it sucked me back in.

JessSezItSoftly Well, I´m still getting to know it more.. but when I read about scorpio suns way back in the day, I couldn´t believe how much it described me... especially the determined part... and it gave me an answer to why I would take all the clothes of my dolls at age 3..... 😆😂😂😂

I knew about sex at like age 4 or 5.... I dont ever remember learning it, just remember knowing about it and the intimacy that comes with it... How can someone know about that at that young of age?? Guessing it was my innate instincts????? Idk....

Anyways, it really gave me an answer as to why for some things I always wondered...

Plus it just gave me validation that my instincts for never wanting to judge, compare, or criticize people because we´re all created differently, it gave me validation for my own instincts with understanding (and or respectfully accepting) people as there are...

Those are just a couple things..

fishscales » rohini moon It´s a real life Bizarro World...

Anna239 » fishscales Hahahaha omg that´s Too true

Maybe the truth of it is that they would not like the answers they might find. That everyone is different and has a unique set of problems/tasks that they were born with. (That is not directly or solely related to either medical genetics or changing environments)
In a way this makes us both less and more malleable, yet also maybe they cannot diagnose everyone!

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I also believe that we are here to evolve throughout the challenges we have to deal with and overcome.

MØ - Live to Survive

been down the valley of regret
I swam in the river
I reached for peace I couldn’t get
‘cause somebody said it would be there

nights of messed up energy
thought you’d be the last of me, baby

I live to survive another heartache
I live to survive another mistake
I live to survive another heartache
I live to survive
I live to survive another heartache
I live to survive another mistake
I live to survive another heartache
I live to survive

you cling to lies and call it truth
it’s so deep in your nature
you dragged me down that hole with you
so now you can stay there

love sure is a mystery
but you won´t be the last of me, baby

I live to survive another heartache
I live to survive another mistake
I live to survive another heartache
I live to survive

watch me I’m back on my feet
I’m back on my feet
I’m back on my feet
ready for the century
for the century
for the century, yeah
You thought you were out of my league
I´m out of your league
I´m out of your league
watch me I´m back on my feet
I´m back on my feet
and free

I live to survive another heartache
I live to survive another mistake
I live to survive another heartache
I live to survive
I live to survive another heartache
I live to survive another mistake
I live to survive another heartache
I live to survive

baby
I live to survive
another heartache
another mistake
another heartache
oh yeah


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1janos My fundamental training and occupation is as a psychotherapist, since 1985. Trained in Humanistic and Transpersonal psychotherapy.

While working with people I became very curious and suspected, that progress could be facilitated, if I had greater insight into what was going on in the depth of their consciousness.

I imagine you´d agree with me, that astrological symbols and their interrelationship can be used to describe the issues, challenges and even potential solutions for addressing people´s ´life battles´.

In my experience, there is potential for significant progress and personal growth. The amazing amount of information, that can be accessed in the depth of a chart, makes it easier to understand and realize.

The patterns in life´s apparent chaos can be observed using this tool. The Tarot, I Ching and the Runes can be used in a similar way, but far more detail is available from astrology.

ZynCitrus Practice. It´s not a religion, you don´t have to believe in it. Learn it and test it. It´s simple as that.

viv » nutelina Maybe have a look at Dr Stanislof Groffs model of the psyche It includes the trans personal and perinatal aspects of the psyche too as well as different layers of the Collective unconscious. He is the psychiatrist who worked with LSD before if became illegal and then he developed Holotrophic Breathwork at Eassalen in California. His astrological colleague is Dr Rick Tarnas who wrote mega works called Passion of the Western Mind and later Cosmos and Psyche. I recently did an online astrology course with Renn Butler, who is also in that tradition. Renn has these amazing slide shows of biographies of people where specific aspects are prominent, lots of musicians artists writers political figures might interest you.

Sunnyshadow I read a Leo horoscope and it really described me well. Me having 4 planets in Leo, maybe too well

Then i finally found a book that had tables in it to find where all the other planets were located and started to learn more about it. First was probably ascendant and Moon and started making more sense. Kept digging into it.

When I found Pluto in 1st house thats when it started making alot of sense and I was convinced it was a legitimate science

Wolfmoon It works.

I´ve always had an interest in astrology but never looked past the sun signs.

History and mythology are my jam.

After I woke from the illusory slumber I went on a massive hunt for the purpose of everything. That lead me back to Astrology where I delved deeper and now it seems to consume my life.

1janos » astreo Operant conditioning.

1janos » Anna239 Well, yes!
If you see an orthodox psychiatrist s/he will stick a diagnostic label on you sooner or later.

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Astrology is like a resume/tool to provide for myself which can be applied to what kinds of talents,relationships,psychology…etc that’s in story for my whole life .That’s all rolled into one along with it being a tool to unlock your truest self without the burden of believing it as a religion.

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I come from a very strict, catholic household.

My interest in astroligy started as a teenager, i was was so fascinated and drawn to it and at the same time afraid of it. I was told since i was little, that astrology is demonic.
Transiting Uranus over my personal planets freed me from those irrational fears.

I just have to look at the synastry of my personal relationships. Always so truthful.
Thats the proof for me.