Ok let s settle the Placidus/whole Sign debate - Discussions, questions

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astreo Better explain your mismatches with Whole Sign / Placidus.
It would be interesting to read it.

Emanuel » astreo It´s funny cuz as I said,I was a big hater of whole sign (for not very valid reasons ). The core reason was that i didnt like many things astrologer Patrick Watson said ... I thought it was too fckin pretentious . So I just "hate" it . The other reason was MArs and Jupiter are in 9th house in Placidus,and I read somewhere that Mars and Jupiter make someone a very preachy individual,passionate anbout religious and academic matters ,very lucky in academic matter etc. Things usually related to 9th house and Jupiter/Sagittarius (though the core signification of 9th house didnt came from Sagittarius ) etc. I liked the idea of Jupiter being in 9th house (it s "domicile" in Alphabet letter system) and be somewhat "blessed" because of it . And I used much confirmation bias for this lol.

But i start to think....hmmm maybe my interest in religion,politics,other countries and their culture is not because I have Jupiter in 9th house ,but because i fckin have a Sagittarius Mercury in sextile with my aquarius Jupiter . I was another person from that point lmao.

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PErsonal Note : I like the idea that planets in a sign are all in the same house ( as in Whole Sign a Sign coresponds to a house) . In have Venus,Uranus,Mars and Jupiter in Aquarius. In placidus Venus and Uranus are in 8th house, Jupiter and Mars in 9th house . I feel this interpretation of placements in houses dissipate the "work together" energy that planets in the same sign . All planets in a sign work together in a way or another ( not actual conjunctions by degree,but conjunction be signs) ....and it feel off that their energy dissipate in different houses. For me it make sense that the energy of planets in the same sign (usually stelliums) are used just in one house .

rohini moon Who´s the stud?

Emanuel https://www.youtube.com/watch/…

I post her separately . Men she s good .

LotusStar Yeah the debate is not settled for me yet, but what if the appeal of whole signs is just us our need for order?

Where I notice it is in synastry... If someone´s ascendant is in the end of a sign and my planet falls 10 degrees or so before it felt more like a 12 house overlay not 1 house.

LotusStar » Jaided "So that´s what I started doing, paying attention to transits and now I´m back to Placidus because the house transits and the timing of when I felt the effects was more accurate."

Yes this too... Same for me.

Emanuel » LotusStar Actually the Ascendant represents the meeting point between the spiritual world(7-12 house) and the material world (1-6 houses) . So the 1st house (The house that contains the Ascendant) usually have a part that is above the Ascendant,but in 1st house ,and a part that is below the Ascendant ,but still in the 1st house. And this is perfectly normal,since The Ascendant dont represent just your physical appearance. So to put it nice :the part above your Ascendant in the 1st house is more spiritual and related to your vision of life .

Emanuel » Jaided "Overall I think I believe in Placidus transits though. When a sign changes, I don´t feel the house change until closer to the degree of that house, not right the sign changes. I have analyzed this very hard the last few months, lol."

Depends very much by the house in which the transit take place,aspects etc. If a planet switch in a empty whole sign house of course you will not feel it until that planet make an aspect to other planets.

Side note: slow moving planets usually takes longer in making their presence noticed . so it s not really a placidus or whole sign thing .

Astro-Seek.com » Emanuel System message: Post has been written by user Jaided, who already deleted profile on this website:
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Yes this is all true as well, I´ve kept aspects in mind as well when figuring all of this out.

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Funny you put that out I was questioning it yestersay, I highly relate to both, I think if you have a stellium its even more interesting to go for whole sign. I’m listening an astrologers that say’s thats its just like lookin from different windows deom the same house 🏠. Different Perspective of the same story. I guess I agree with that.

But looking at it from a whole sign in scorpio wqs mlre accurate for me.

Ho and BTW! I would have wrote a message to petr9 but he dosnt answer, hes mailbox must be overloaded, found a couple of bugs.. When you change house system
In the transit some transit house description dont change wich is unfortunate. Exemple my saturn venus is transkt my 7th house in placidius but then 9th house in whole sign and still get the 7th house description of the transit.

Rosincvist ........It is coincidentally similar to the issue of my past incarnation as Howard Phillips Lovecraft; The official chart I found up and down the internet puts his in the first house, but I know he really had it in the twelfth house. Whole sign puts my in the first house, but I know it is dangerously capable of becoming submerged in the dream-world of the twelfth-house!
Whole sign reduces the Zodiac to perfect pizza-carving............but how often is the final tally of pizza really democratic!

Castlewallsxo Mars in 12th (in Placidus) is more accurate to me than Mars in 1st (in Whole). I have a very repressed sexuality that I express in dreams (12th house) and never in real life.

astreo » Castlewallsxo I would have a Mars in Whole in the 12th house, my sexuality is not repressed for ANYTHING, in Placidus I have it in the 11th.
I´m staying with Placidus.

Emanuel I swear to God everytime Rosincvist or wildflower write something i dont understand shit lmao

fishscales For my chart, it seems to go like this:

Placidus is more accurate regarding internal, psychological components...

Whole signs seems more accurate regarding observable phenomena (such as where I physically live, etc.)

I use Placidus mainly, but I do admire the elegant simplicity/symmetry of the whole sign system.

So I guess I´m a somewhat blurry guy with an oversized chin...

Astro-Seek.com System message: Post has been written by user bruhmoment, who already deleted profile on this website:
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I relate to my whole more. I also relate to my placidus they both share different insights that relate to me. My whole just seems more WHOLE no pun intended its really that much of a difference.

Astro-Seek.com » Emanuel System message: Post has been written by user anotheralex, who already deleted profile on this website:
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Rosincvist is quite mysterious indeed.

LotusStar » anotheralex His chart has Mercury square Uranus, I suspected it did, his communication and writting style is definitely unique and different. No diss Rosincvist, just an observation, keep doing you.

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Rosincvist is my favourite commenter on this site. Astroseek would not be the same without him !!

Astro-Seek.com » LotusStar System message: Post has been written by user anotheralex, who already deleted profile on this website:
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Hoo that would makes sens it does have this Aquarius influence. Ya no diss at all, I really wish I could understand what hes saying because he looks knowledgeable!

Astro-Seek.com » Rosincvist System message: Post has been written by user Boyakasha, who already deleted profile on this website:
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There won´t be an another Rosincvist

ASTRSEEK Admin, Petr9 » OS* Rosincvist is my favourite commenter on this site. Astroseek would not be the same without him !!
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There won´t be an another Rosincvist
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ASTRSEEK Admin, Petr9 » Rosincvist Whole sign reduces the Zodiac to perfect pizza-carving............but how often is the final tally of pizza really democratic!
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Placidus vs Whole sign finally solved