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Sects and chart ruler
March 15, 2021 at 09:15 (UT/GMT)

Sects and chart ruler
Dear People,
I am currently hooked on The Astrology Podcast by Chris Brennan and his approach to traditional astrology and promoting the ideas and practices that were lost and now are getting translated now, comming into light.
The one of the things he is pushing, after Robert Hand, who praises Whole Signs, is day and night sect. Due to this theory it was one of the major concept while looking at birth chart and planetary strenght.
So when you have Sun in the houses from 7th to 12th you have a day chart and diurnal sect, where Sun leads it, Jupiter is benefic there and Mars more malefic.
When you have Sun below the horizon, in houses from 1st to 6th - you have night chart lead by the moon, where Venus is the most beneficial and Saturn is the malefic one. Therefore you might resonate more with your moon sign.
But how to interpretate the night chart, that is ruled by the sun (Leo rising), placed below horizon and being fairly unaspected (the only aspect it has to the MC)? Moon is found in her domicile, and is the most aspected planet in the chart.
How to understand that? Because the Moon seems to be the strongest planet in the chart, but due to the Ascendant the Sun rules this whole chart. Does that find balance? Or does it mean, moon is more important?
I am currently hooked on The Astrology Podcast by Chris Brennan and his approach to traditional astrology and promoting the ideas and practices that were lost and now are getting translated now, comming into light.
The one of the things he is pushing, after Robert Hand, who praises Whole Signs, is day and night sect. Due to this theory it was one of the major concept while looking at birth chart and planetary strenght.
So when you have Sun in the houses from 7th to 12th you have a day chart and diurnal sect, where Sun leads it, Jupiter is benefic there and Mars more malefic.
When you have Sun below the horizon, in houses from 1st to 6th - you have night chart lead by the moon, where Venus is the most beneficial and Saturn is the malefic one. Therefore you might resonate more with your moon sign.
But how to interpretate the night chart, that is ruled by the sun (Leo rising), placed below horizon and being fairly unaspected (the only aspect it has to the MC)? Moon is found in her domicile, and is the most aspected planet in the chart.
How to understand that? Because the Moon seems to be the strongest planet in the chart, but due to the Ascendant the Sun rules this whole chart. Does that find balance? Or does it mean, moon is more important?

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March 15, 2021 at 10:19


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March 16, 2021 at 00:43

Let me just add in passing that when the sun is around the Ascendant or Descendant there are some other factors to take into account when deciding if it´s a day or night chart.
In either a day or night chart Mars and Saturn are the two malefics. In a day chart Mars is more malefic (all other considerations aside) and Saturn is a bit less malefic. Reverse for the night chart. There Saturn is the main malefic and Mars a bit less malefic.
Jupiter and Venus are always benefic. But in a day chart Jupiter is more benefic. IN a night chart Venus is more benefic.
I am not sure I understand the rest of your question. If you have Leo Rising, you will look to the Sun to give you information pertaining to matters regarding ascendant issues. The ascendant has to do with personal matters and you look to its ruler (in this case the Sun) and which house it is in to give hints about the main direction of your life. So for example (and this is simplifying things quite a bit), the ruler of the Ascendant (in this case the Sun) in the 4th house, would suggest that your life path might revolve around family, country or even death (yes, the fourth house can be either and you would need to look at other factors in the chart, particularly lots- Arabic Parts- to determine which subject it does pertain to).
Before I answer the rest of your questions, keep this in mind: in traditional astrology it is the ASCENDANT that has more to do with the native in terms of his character, etc, than the Sun. The Sun will designate things about certain people or topics in the natives life but does not necessarily say anything about the native himself. This is in stark contrast to Modern astrology where the sun is considered paramount and where all the planets indicate something about the native´s psyche or personality. That´s just not the case in Hellenistic or any other type of Western traditional astrology. Hope that helps. Ask other questions as needed.

March 16, 2021 at 08:23

What I meant is that whatever planet (or luminary) rules over the Ascendant (of course it points out the area of higher importance or exposure and the sign color its affairs) it is said to be the ruler of whole chart.
But according to ancient pieces of knowledge it might not be a master of nativity. Like in my case - sun rules my chart. I identify with my rising 100% (thats the reason I started to learn more, because not identifying with my sun). But my chart is nocturnal, the Moon leads the sect and its also well placed - in Cancer 12th house (well...), having the most aspects and being close to the Ascendant.
So the question is: does it make the Moon dominant over sun (which rules my chart) and I should learn more and look up to the moon?

March 16, 2021 at 22:43

I would be more concerned about the issues related to the Sun, since he is the ruler of the 1st house and rules the main issues in your life, but of course, you should study both.
I am not sure if I´ve answered your questions, but please clarify further by asking questions.
The Master of the Nativity is another issue.

March 17, 2021 at 07:17

I am crossing my mind to find what is dominating in my chart and haven´t get to it yet, because the picture isn´t clear honestly.

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