NORTH NODE DIRECT - Discussions, questions

Rosincvist Your is being biquintiled by stationary ; That means some of who you are is from the -scape!

NSM » Rosincvist Thanks for your reply ... I do not get it though... what is this supposed to mean?

JayJayAstrology Your chart on astroseek has it as R. As far as I know, the Moon´s Nodes never move direct. Where did you read that they can go direct?

s81 Here at astro-seek the (north) node that appears in the mean one (that´s why it is signaled by an (M) symbol) and it is always "retrograde" (R) since for the calculation it is took the average motion of the Moon (amongst other parameters).
The (north) true node (less used) it is a completely different story, there is no average to be calculated, so it has not an homogeneous display. Certain days in a month it will look like "direct" but I don´t think that is a correct term for it... IMHO, a calculated point can not be retrograde, it is not a moving body.
Of course we have all different opinions, and that´s ok.

Graham Did you receive the message I sent you ... about your natal chart?

NSM » Graham Yeap..

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The nodes wobble back and forth all the time, that´s why there´s a true and a mean node. The mean node is an estimate while the true node shows the nodes exact position on the wobble. It´s like a minor detail I wouldn´t personally take it much into account, however of course everything can be seen through the lense of its symbolic value.

NSM » AdeptMagician thank you Adept Magician

Keep safe and happy

NSM » JayJayAstrology Hi Jay Jay
i read it in vavious astrological sites... Acc to them some days they are direct....

NSM » s81 thank you S 81 keep safe...

JayJayAstrology » NSM Here are two quote from Dane Rudhyar posted on astrodienst - astro.com - a popular astrology website. I could come up with more samples of this kind of statement if I looked. I´d love to see a quote or a website saying they go direct.

"The axis of the Moon´s nodes has a retrograde motion in the zodiac; and retrograde motion, in geocentric astrology, means motion in a direction opposite to that which the Sun and the Moon always follow. As these two "Lights" symbolize essentially, in terms of any earthly organism, the bi-polar life-force, a retrograde motion is one that takes place in counterpoint to the life-force. In times when the worship of this life-force (cults of fertility, sex-oriented rituals, etc.) was the basic factor in tribal religions and agricultural societies, retrograde motion was usually given a more or less negative meaning".

"In the case of the Moon´s nodes, however, we do not deal with the combined motions of celestial bodies but with the relationship between two orbits. What happens is that the plane of the Moon´s orbit has a sliding "backward" motion with reference to the plane of the Earth´s orbit, the zodiac. This motion is continuous; the Moon´s nodes never go "forward" in longitude".

NSM » JayJayAstrology Hi Jay Jay

I have read it in many forums in various astrological sites (does not mean anything of course and that is why i have asked your opinion)

for example
https://www.mollysastrology.com/top…

JayJayAstrology » NSM Thanks. This person on molly astrology (you shared the link) does mention direct motion but suggests that there is no significance to it. I have no idea if direct motion is true or what it might mean. I cannot find anything on it when I search. A long time ago, I read that the nodal motion isn´t something that is accurately calculated anyway - either mean or true. They are points in the sky along two orbital planes - not material "things" - and are averages of a motion between orbital planes - as the Moon and Sun move in the sky.

I doubt that there is anything in astrology, including north node of the moon, that indicates whether a person will or will not not incarnate again. I don´t think we can look at a chart and know the native is a new or old soul. I just know that people relate to their nodes in their charts - that it works - but who knows how it works? Who knows how astrology works at all - never mind the Moon´s nodes?

Many of us would like to think we won´t have to come back - but - I doubt if any one of us have that kind of knowledge. People say a lot of things on the internet that we have no idea is true or not. There are many mysteries no matter how evolved you are. I´ve read many theories - but with no way to verify any of it.

I feel like whether I will be back or not, I have work to do because I´m here. I do my inner work as best I can. If I come back, I´ll do my work again. If I don´t, then I look forward to the next adventure, whatever it is. All I know, is I´m here now - and eventually I will die. I do believe we do not die when the physical body dies, but exactly what happens after I die - well - there are many theories that we cannot prove. So I´ll wait until I get there. That´s how I personally handle this question for myself.

NSM » JayJayAstrology Thank you Jay Jay
i appreciate your reply and your time and respect your opinion on this

take care
nsm

alcg99 A person who had North Node 12°11’d and died in a car accident with transit North node 1H 17°45’ doing a quincunx to eachother. Saturn Natal chart were 0°17’r and Saturn Transit 0°45’r. They correlated exactly an quincunx. Natal Saturn in 2H (movable things) and transit Saturn passes the natives 8h.