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Enemies - not visible in chart?
September 27, 2019 at 21:56 (UT/GMT)

Enemies - not visible in chart?
That´s not the first time I´ve tried to find my "luck" to enemies using astrology...Without success, because I have enemies in real life.
I´ve tried to analyze my chart in this area and...I don´t see anything specific. Well, maybe I´m still a beginner in astrology, because I do not notice the presence of enemies in my chart,but I have them in life.
As far as I know 7th house shows open enemies and 12th house hidden enemies and how I guess some planets there? I don´t have any planets in 7th or 12th house.
So there are probably more indicators of this or I really can´t interpret charts.
What gives me luck to enemies? Some addition to that - luck to "gossipers" who can harm. It´s not nice to say that, but I´ve often been the object of gossip/rumors
I´ve tried to analyze my chart in this area and...I don´t see anything specific. Well, maybe I´m still a beginner in astrology, because I do not notice the presence of enemies in my chart,but I have them in life.
As far as I know 7th house shows open enemies and 12th house hidden enemies and how I guess some planets there? I don´t have any planets in 7th or 12th house.
So there are probably more indicators of this or I really can´t interpret charts.
What gives me luck to enemies? Some addition to that - luck to "gossipers" who can harm. It´s not nice to say that, but I´ve often been the object of gossip/rumors



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September 30, 2019 at 10:01



September 29, 2019 at 16:26

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I have some similar placements to you Nola, and have had my fair share of enemies in the past, mostly in the workplace. 4th house Pluto and scorpio moon square 8th house Mars. I´ve always blamed my scorpio moon. It makes very touchy and easy to upset. I think people have picked up on that and have often taken the opportunity to play with it and dump their dirt. Also 11th house Saturn which has never made a follower, never been a big fan of the group, always outside. And being introvert and quiet has made me the perfect shit magnet.
But yeah, that scorpio moon has been difficult to live with, and has brought me lots of enemies I believe.

September 29, 2019 at 13:08

I guess there will always be preps and greasers,

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September 29, 2019 at 12:29







In classical astrology (Whole Signs) Venus is in your 7th house.
These are very powerful aspects, not everyone can handle this.

September 29, 2019 at 02:55

It is what You said about how if no one hates You You aren’t trying.
I would be disturbed if I didn’t disturb someone!
Pissing people off and being offensive is my #1 priority!!!
I am true to my Aquarius roots. Don’t like it ?!! Fuck off !!!



September 29, 2019 at 02:49

September 29, 2019 at 02:28


Luckily we dont all fit into the same mold. How boring would that be?
Little NF to lighten things up
https://youtu.be/J7MYJ8Kxhwc

September 29, 2019 at 01:38

September 28, 2019 at 11:44

Chiron in 11th house I have it there too but Taurus, you Gemini, Gemini is communication? Maybe you should be more poetic.

September 28, 2019 at 11:41

I guess like the luck to enemies is being outspoken and honest, critical, judging. Every time you get hurt it resonates like a tuning fork. If an enemy comes he or she can sense you are affraid. They will come after you.
Asc. Leo you are proud. 10th house in Aries. Moon in Scorpio deep feelings. Sun in Pisces empath. Pluto in the 4th house like me. And of course Moon opposition Mars


September 28, 2019 at 11:37


September 28, 2019 at 11:31

I prefer the term "dualistic" for Gemini. I think they have two sides, but I don´t think it´s a conscious thing with Geminis. I mean... They may be conscious of it, but they switch from twin to twin in an unconscious, natural way, without an agenda.
I think being "two faced" is more of Libra thing.
Libra is always thinking about and adjusting to the "other guy." Then, their self interest kicks in, and they feel like they´ve given away the farm, and they start to get resentful and possibly manipulative in order to gain back the ground they lost. Yet at the same time, they are still desirous of having harmonious relations.
This can create the impression of two different people, but unlike Gemini, Libra has a plan. They want to achieve harmony, but sometimes don´t realize the unhealthy ways they go about it. Libra´s keen understanding into the dynamics of one on one relationships can work against them here: they can be excellent manipulators, yet not realize that manipulation is getting them farther away from what they want, which is a real and balanced relationship.
They could get over this if they embraced their Aries polarity and operated from a more self oriented place. That way, everyone knows what they are getting. Everything will balance out naturally, because by being true to themselves, Libra will attract those who like them for who they are, and not attract those who don´t.
"Self oriented" doesn´t mean "selfish", it just means operating from a place that feels right to them, without taking into consideration what the other person may think.

September 28, 2019 at 09:48

Leo rising attracts people weak that try to make us change our powerful mind .
Nowadays I use this person ( shallow friends) to send message for people that try to control me hahah , but I just can do it , using my moon in gemini shallow too, I don’t keep in my heart this feelings . In my case that shallow friends give me information too, ( I don’t know if it’s Jupiter in 8th, that I gain with enemies too) but I don’t i don´t walk away from this people because they could give me information just when they try to hurt me

September 28, 2019 at 09:40

6th is lover (betrayal) of our husband


September 28, 2019 at 07:45

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I was recently dating someone with 1st house Pluto. A very bossy controlling woman always complaining about something or someone. "Small people with small thoughts" was very much the kind of thing she would say. In the short time I knew her, I didn´t notice she was making many friends tbh, mostly enemies. Sad really, very tough exterior, but very lonely underneath.

September 28, 2019 at 05:11

This is 100 percent true. Leo is seen as a positive sign, despite some flaws, but I am sure that Leo Sun or rising Leo draw enemies.Same with some Scorpio placement.
I can admit that Moon in Scorpio is very intense, but it doesn´t mean : "hateful","agressive","conflicted". But it gives a lot of tension.
And I have that Moon strapped to Pluto in Scorpio (it´s generational).
>I am just speculating Nola.
It´s ok,I don´t mind.


September 28, 2019 at 04:48

Oh, I know that but experience that in a few ways - the one you described
is not necessarily the most common. I can usually tell who talks about me too much and I feel that "tension".
>"Does that have any meaning to You?"
Unfortunately yes, because it is not just low level chatter.Maybe it´s not something that hurts me to the quick, but can be harmful in the social sense - so we talk about things that nobody can ignore : maybe word "reputation/social status is too big but that´s more or less the point.
I´ll try to give an example :
If someone - I have problem with description in English - let´s call it...If someone can lower your position 2 floors below using rumors (but not only), you should be worried about.In my case rumors are harmful and I just know it. But I don´t talk here about problems from work at the office or corporation. However, it´s still a public image that is the result of how I fall in the eyes of others (social) and it has some impact on ... my career,even if that all happens in rather small groups,among colleagues. And when we add to that self-awareness...
Sorry,maybe it´s confusing,but... It´s kind of hard to explain.
I think it´s - like fishscales and Ancient Astrology said in my previous topic - 4/10 issue or maybe 5/11 issue. I feel conflict there.
I have Pluto in Scorpio (4th house) conjucted with that Moon in


September 28, 2019 at 03:26

If people love You others will hate You.
Gotta make some waves and rattle some cadges.
It would be terrible not to be disturbing to some people!
It adds spice to living!

September 28, 2019 at 03:13

Not related to your chart per say, but always heard that Pluto in 1st house either people like you or hate you. Get scapegoated as being "bad" or whatever. True in my experience.
I´ve learned to adopt the IDGAF about what other people say about me. Let ´em think what they think. Small people with small thoughts. Smile at you´re enemies, it drives them crazy

September 28, 2019 at 02:50

Gemini is “two faced” . What I mean is people are nice to You Nola to Your face but talk badly about You when You aren’t there.
Does that have any meaning to You?
Just my thoughts.
Also occurs to me that Scorpio moon and Leo rising are powerful signs that could draw some enemies.
I am just speculating Nola.

September 28, 2019 at 02:42

He’ll get You a deal on some gator meat!


September 28, 2019 at 01:22

September 28, 2019 at 01:00

Were any of these enemies you´re talking about previously friends?"
I am not sure about Chiron. Wounding?


It´s a bit of a reference to my previous topic about Mars in 11th house.
I wrote there that I have luck to "friends who easily become enemies".
And I am quite sure/feel it´s a 11th house matter, but
now I can only wonder if this is the influence of Chiron or Mars.
I´ve thought about it before that Mars as a malefic planet can work very agressively in my 11th house and create negatively affected contacts/ behaviours in my "friend circle".
At first sight I was convinced that placement should give me a power, but...I don´t see luck there.
I am not in Vedic astrology and don´t understand
what the 6th house has to do with subject like enemies. I´ve never associated that with 6th house and never heard about it.
But I have Neptune in 6th house





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