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Which planet or planets have heavy effects on you?
August 23, 2020 at 06:09 (UT/GMT)

Which planet or planets have heavy effects on you?
Mine pluto and Saturn but who is first one even hard to me say. I don´t want to say all time they have negative effects on me , i love difficulties but i cannot deal with them with my free will. Third planet for me the heavy one is Uranus. İts effects can be good or bad sometimes but very interesting and surpsing. I wonder how you feel about such planets and how they have effects on you?

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September 14, 2020 at 19:42

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Saturn and Mars. My first Saturn return was crazy so hopefully my second will be better as I´ve done some inner work.
Mars being strong in my natal and in a malefic house casts a shade, during certain transits into a house or exact conjunct with a natal or transiting planet can bring interesting experiences.


September 1, 2020 at 14:22


September 1, 2020 at 14:12

Ken Wilber wrote many years ago:
"What you´re looking out of, is what you´re looking at".
I also consider myself a student of nature and life. Imagine you agree with me, that the topic seems not to have any limits.
I´m unsure how it would be possible to share knowledge with you. I don´t have a secret process or do anything fancy.
Please let me know if you have any ideas.

September 1, 2020 at 14:07


September 1, 2020 at 14:02

What I state is highly subjective, non-scientific and biased personal opinion and not "The Final Truth".
All I hope for is your consideration and perhaps a possibility of progressing together on the path of discovery.

September 1, 2020 at 14:00


I always question everything what i learn. Btw i don´t only learn astrology , i most time watch documentaries about universe. I think it is too late for me studying astrophysics or astronomy but i take good information from these documentaries. I try to connect astrology and astrophysics and astronomy. İ believe in universe everything has connection with each other but I try to understand why and how? You can be uranian astrologer , i heard your interpretations are very good but i must see that. I will be so glad if you share some knowledge with us. I do that eventhough i am not astrologer.

September 1, 2020 at 13:51

I am just repeating the answers and hope you consider them.
I´m not expecting for you to blindly accept what my personal opinions are, but I can´t repeat the opinions I arrived at more clearly, than stated before.

September 1, 2020 at 13:44

Though the philosophy of science is a fascinating topic I´d rather not enter into that one. It would lead us away from the discussion at hand.
There is little doubt, that biology and especially endocrinology rules our the material/physical aspect of our human existence.
Astrology - in my view -, can describe the most complex, subtle and depth experiences of thought, emotional and spiritual aspects of life experiences.
I don´t know if you´re joking when you write:
"Since the sun and moon are the closest planets to our solar system, itself being part of a much larger system..."
You refer to the Sun and the Earth´s Moon as planets.????????? Do you not know the difference?
In older texts they are referred to as ´Lights´, perhaps due to the Sun emanating light due to nuclear fusion and the Moon reflecting it intensely, due to it being relatively close to us. Mercury, Venus and Mars are closer to us than the Sun.
I´m unsure, if you´re familiar with the Uranian School of astrology originating mostly from Hamburg Germany. After the overly complex and hardly justifiable introduction of hypothetical planets, the vast body of research was simplified into a surprisingly subtle and highly accurate system of thought based on mid points or half sums. This refers to especially significant mathematical points half way between the Lights, planets and other calculated significant points in astrological calculations. Interestingly enough, these calculated points describe unexpected and surprising qualities, that repeat at a distance of 45 degrees from their directly calculated positions.
The application and integrated interpretation of these factors into a chart analysis yields remarkably in depth results. I´d recommend you check it out.

September 1, 2020 at 13:15

September 1, 2020 at 13:08

If you believe, that planets are influencing you, me and everyone else on the planet from distances of several hundred million and in the case of Pluto well over seven billion kilometres away, there are two possibilities.
1. You misunderstand what astrology is about. That can be corrected by studying the topic in depth. I´d strongly encourage you to do that. It is a vast topic.
2. You can be diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic. That condition requires antipsychotics and your life is almost but ruined by severe psychopathology.
Astrology is NOT based on cause and effect. Those concepts are valid in simple physics like mechanics, optics etc.
Life is just a bit more complicated than that. I am sure you know that by now.
Astrology is not prescriptive; it is descriptive. It is based on the application of reasonably simple maths to a highly complex system of symbology.
Nowadays with the available computing power - and good people like Petr who know how to use it -, it is possible to do these reasonably simple but labour intensive calculations with remarkable accuracy in seconds by just about anyone with access to this site among others.
Whoever studies this worthy subject, must sooner or later move beyond Cartesian philosophy and Newtonian science. The 1650s and the early 1700s are well and truly in the past.
Astrological symbols represented by various planets, the Angles (Ascendant and Midheaven), various mathematical points in natal charts, their angular relationships based of geometry and their so called movements (transits, progressions) in time, appear to coincide with certain personal qualities, life events etc. All this information can be used to describe people´s character, personal qualities and unfolding of life events - by a skilful interpreter -, with access to reference texts and detailed research of the same.
These coincidences were referred to as synchronicities by C G Jung the Swiss psychiatrist, who summarized his findings at the end of his life on the topic in the book: ´Synchronicity, the Acausal Connecting Principle´. Acausal or without cause. Please read the book for further in depth clarification.
The thorough understanding of an astrological chart and therefore a person´s life is a very arduous undertaking. That effort can yield remarkably accurate and descriptive results, but for me - for example -, it takes about 100 hours of concentrated work.

August 31, 2020 at 16:37

Talking about the influence of the planets, I would say that the most obvious is the existence of a "circalunar" rhythm that regulates our biological activities over an average of 29.5 days, as does the circadian rhythm over 24 hours, and at the same time on our moods (I´m not talking about choices, but could be another topic for discussion


I would say that these are the mysteries of the infinitely big as well as the infinitely small.
Edit : ... I´m only here to broaden my field of vision... even if I may seem "firm" in my way of presenting things, it´s all about questioning.


August 31, 2020 at 15:16



August 31, 2020 at 15:14

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If only I could manipulate mr. Pluto.
1janos is the right man to ask. This thread for instance. The skill




August 31, 2020 at 15:11

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Woah.
I am glad you now agree to share the communities views. No longer playing devils advocate then



Welcome



August 31, 2020 at 15:11

If only I could manipulate mr. Pluto.

August 31, 2020 at 14:54

Take the topic very seriously, though I gave up long ago on attempting to convince others about its validity. Sceptics or those who don´t even study the topic before dismissing it just annoy me, because they are ignorant. They ignore, and to me, that is a great sin.
My fundamental training and occupation is as a psychotherapist. Trained in Humanistic and Transpersonal psychotherapy and have been in private practice since 1985.
While working with people I became very curious and suspected, that progress could be facilitated, if I had greater insight into what was going on in the depth of their consciousness.
I imagine you´d agree with me, that astrological symbols and their interrelationship can be used to describe the issues, challenges and even potential solutions for addressing people´s ´life battles´.
To accomplish that, I need to invest a significant amount of time and effort to understand their chart. I also need to spend a significant amount of time in intimate contact with a person to understand what they realised of the potential described in their chart.
The thorough understanding of an astrological chart and therefore a person´s life is a very arduous undertaking. That effort can yield remarkably accurate and descriptive results, but for me - for example -, it takes about 100 hours of concentrated work.
The interpretation of my own chart appears spot on, based on the graphic depiction on this website. Said interpretation goes vastly deeper than the computer generated introduction published under said graphics.
It is at your peril if you ignore Petr´s warning:
"Before reading the following interpretation done by a computer it is good to note that any planet position or aspect mentioned in your horoscope may be insignificant. You should always remember the rule:
Nothing should be evaluated separately, things should always be considered in a broader context and with regard to other planet positions and aspects of the horoscope."


August 31, 2020 at 14:20

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I think you mistake me 1janos. I am not trying to say i am right. I am suggesting to you other ways to try to view the charts before you disregard it
I dont know if you are jesting slightly because would you buy a rugby shirt and a ticket to the game to walk around there talking in the ears of people watching the game about what a waste of time it is to be there


Lol.
It seems to me you are not happy with your read, hence the view, again i suggest looking at different time birth charts, play around with your time and gps co-ordinates your chart might then start to make sense

August 31, 2020 at 14:02

I am not going to repeat information, that is well covered elsewhere to make a point. I am also not interested in playing "I am right, you are wrong games."
I have no idea what your comment:
Then again i also would tweak my time and insert it then see if im a pisces or another ascendant. Inserting the right time and co-ordinates will get you a more accurate read, for sidereal try LST time or switch to vedic
refers to in this discussion.

August 31, 2020 at 13:54

Planets have no magic powers and do NOT influence our lives directly by any means, that I´m aware of.
No cause and effect can be established, as far as I know.
Please refer to the concept of synchronicity.

August 31, 2020 at 13:43



August 31, 2020 at 09:37

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Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion but i dont think you made your point valid by citing a wikipedia article as proof, thats just not holding any water unfortunately..
Then again i also would tweak my time and insert it then see if im a pisces or another ascendant. Inserting the right time and co-ordinates will get you a more accurate read, for sidereal try LST time or switch to vedic


August 31, 2020 at 08:50


August 31, 2020 at 08:38

The distances involved are hundreds of millions to several billion kilometres.
I hope you´re being realistic and accepting of scientific facts, that demonstrated and validated a lot of theories. I also imagine you see, that the extremely weak electromagnetic field, that emanates from our physical being, that you call the aura is forever changing. I, as most other people with a little training can see auras. It is a very dynamic and complex phenomenon. The level of intensity, colour and thickness of it depends on how an individual feels, how energetic or tired they feel and other factors, like what they do at the time when their aura is viewed.
So far, no-one has demonstrated or tested - to the best of my knowledge-, that each and every planet in our solar system is emanating extraordinarily powerful electromagnetic waves, that appear to subtly influence our life and psyche.
Without the intention of upsetting you, that kind of belief is akin to magical thinking. Please read Wikipedia article, that is very well written and is there to demonstrate my point.

August 30, 2020 at 20:18



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