hot femme fatale´s aspects - Discussions, questions

Morena_Lu » Nola_la I didn´t watch that one, maybe one part..Sofie is there also..;)

I will watch it for sure, I liked "Apartment" with her, a wonderful story about the consequences of obsessive love. :))

Nola_la » Morena_Lu "I believe that time destroys everything. You can take one beautiful apple, red. After a while, it becomes shrivelled and full of worms, just like what happens to us."

I´m almost sure that only someone with a strong 8th house could say something like that.

8th gives mysterious/enigmatic aura too - that´s a femme fatale attribute for sure . And something very useful for actors

Have you ever seen "Don´t look back/Ne te retourne pas"? I think this very mysterious look of hers has been well used here.

I add poster of that movie. Maybe it´s not the best, but film seems to be interesting.

Morena_Lu » Nola_la "Hahahaha.I laugh because I remember that a popular Google question about Monica in the past was "Monica Bellucci never smiles" ."

Yeah, I remember that, haha.

"I see Monica as a mix of that loves beauty and harmony, a very powerful and proud and , who also needs balance. This Saturn on the Ascendant is a cherry on the top...

And I agree with you, I also see Her beauty as very Plutonic - it is the effect of a strong 8th house in her chart."

I like that Saturn, she is always graceful, serious, proud..I like when a woman is like that, when you know that you must respect her..:)

I also think that because of that Saturn/Virgo and the 8th house combination she is really down to earth, aware of everything, this qoute of her is a good illustration.


"I believe that time destroys everything. You can take one beautiful apple, red. After a while, it becomes shrivelled and full of worms, just like what happens to us."

Nola_la » Morena_Lu >"Monica, she is always beautiful..even when she is sad.:))"

Hahahaha . I laugh because I remember that a popular Google question about Monica in the past was "Monica Bellucci never smiles" .

I saw your interpretation of her chart and I think that this Saturn on the Ascendant gives her such a very reserved look. And she always looks mature. But this seriousness as a reflection of Saturn/Cap is something I really like in her

I see Monica as a mix of that loves beauty and harmony, a very powerful and proud and , who also needs balance. This Saturn on the Ascendant is a cherry on the top...

And I agree with you, I also see Her beauty as very Plutonic - it is the effect of a strong 8th house in her chart.

Morena_Lu » MarvinReal I know a lot about her life, and from her Tropical chart you can see that she will have bad ending..

Also, her code was problematic in a way, 797...

MarvinReal » Morena_Lu At the end of my post I admitted that she has astrological reasons for being exceptional. All major planets in nasty nakshatras and very feminine ASC and Moon. Killer combinations. And it killed her. Did you watched those videos?

Luna Alba I won´t talk about celebrities ...but from what I saw in my life, Gemini influence or placements do enable the owners with femme fatale skills.

They just play men (not saying it´s moral, but that´s what femme fatales do) and are so driven in achieving their objectives...just crazy. It seems they always get what they want, including the man they want.

Their inquiring mercurian mind help them win and charm even when they do not have a thick sensuality the Earth signs have...


I don´t think I like their vibe, but sometimes I wish I were one of them .

Yeah, I could have used some Gemini placements :d.

I also noticed women w Sagi Moon have a very libertine, promiscuous side. This is a generalisation based on some examples I know :)

Morena_Lu » MarvinReal Between Marylin and Monica, I would choose second one. Maybe Marylin is not fatal for your taste..but she was to a lot of people... She was for sure very charismatic..Anyway, I always thought that she was represented like some dumb sex symbol, and she wasn´t that.

Academic Sarah Churchwell studied narratives about Monroe and has stated:
The biggest myth is that she was dumb. The second is that she was fragile. The third is that she couldn´t act. She was far from dumb, although she was not formally educated, and she was very sensitive about that. But she was very smart indeed—and very tough. She had to be both to beat the Hollywood studio system in the 1950s. [...] The dumb blonde was a role—she was an actress, for heaven´s sake! Such a good actress that no one now believes she was anything but what she portrayed on screen..


Still, we can agree to disagree about what is beautiful..You can post what you think that it is a femme fatale for you.

MarvinReal You´re 24yo female living in Toronto, interested in women?

Also, your description of femme fatale sounds more like a hooker type which are rarely attractive women.

All of this seems crazy to me.

Btw: Morena_Lu mentioned Marilyn Monroe, https://bit.ly/31Xz23x and I previously said that she was just an average looking woman who just became famous in acting, while others didn´t, and who has similar body to most of you. I know it´s astounding statement, but anyway. She has lunar nakshatra of Dhanishtha of Aquarius Rashi ruled by Saturn, while Nakshatra Lord is Mars. This Nakshatra was mentioned as the very least likely to become a porn star, and very less likely to become a serial killer. Although she has had a very fiery Venus in Aswini, which has strong tendencies towards serial killing, but very low towards porn. Luckily her Ascendant is Ashlesha in Cancer Rashi of Moon, and Lord of Nakshatra Mercury. She got Mars in Purva Bhadra of Aquarius Rashi, and Rahu in Punarvasu.

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Edit: True BML exact ASC in Cancer. Moon in Capricorn in 7th. Venus Chiron in Aries in 10th. Mars in 8th is very inauspicious too. So yeah, wild life, abuse and suicide. Pluto conjunct Sirius. Sun and Mercury conjunct Aldebaran. An exceptional chart.

Morena_Lu » Nola_la Monica, she is always beautiful..even when she is sad.:))

I adore his movies, "Cinema Paradiso" is maybe his best one, every time I watch it ..I discover something new. It makes you laugh and it makes you cry, yet it is so simple and straightforward. Maybe there lies its magic: no Hollywood superstars, no special effects, just pure emotions and feelings, love, fear, grief and regret, nostalgia for childhood and youth, memories of places and times that will not come back, memories of the loved ones. Some movies are there to entertain, some to scare, some to question...

This movie is there to affect your feelings.

Nola_la » stigmí >"Monica has nothing to do with pluto/scorpio."

I disagree...

>" For example Venus of scorpio is building her values on sex-appeal. Venus in Leo is simply queen x)"

But I agree with that in 100%

Nola_la » Morena_Lu I don´t know if this is the picture I like best . I added it here because it is very meaningful - one scene and a look that says more than words.

I want to watch this movie again...Tornatore´s films have a hint of nostalgia - here I am captivated by the image of Sicily (still beautiful despite the war), music, colours.

It´s not easy to choose the best picture - can´t decide because you can find so many beautiful pics in that movie

EDIT : And of course I like "Closer", what a great movie of Mike Nichols...

Morena_Lu » Milami I hope that it will be better with time, you will for sure find a way to deal with that..:))
My professor used to say to my class-"You should all be happy because you are ordinary, there is no happiness with great beauty."

We did Anna Karenina at that moment, and we all know ending of that story..


Maybe we should examine natal chart of this tragic beauty..

"She was a girl who knew how to be happy even when she was sad. And that’s important—you know"
Marilyn Monroe

Milami » Morena_Lu Exactly,its hard I dont do anything to attrackt them, but i´ve noticed that I attrackt gemini men, and in general People with sun in 12th house, fiery moons..

Morena_Lu » Milami Sometimes being a femme fatale is not easy..:)
Another scenario is when beauty alone can create the accidental femme fatale. In other words, the women don´t do anything intentional to create the situation. It is the people their beauty attract that fall under their own dangerous neptune spell. Some people will do anything for pretty face. At first you would think that an angular venus would be involved, but different people find different things beautiful so I guess any women could potentially be a femme fatale to certain people..;)

Milami I attract men like crazy, and I dont say that to brag or something stupid as that, it is very hard for me,everyone looks at me like a peace of meat, not for Who I really am, my pisces moon try to find deeper conection with People but I cant cause Im Just "preety"in their eyes and nothing else they want to discover about me.I dont talk about men attraction only, this is happening with all People i meet. Lilith in 1st in taurus, pluto in 8th in scorpio, jupiter in scorpio, Venus in gemini

stigmí » Morena_Lu

Morena_Lu » stigmí Well, the best way is to see what all fatal woman have in common.

Still, I think that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, maybe what is attractive to me will not be to you..:)


Maybe we should ask men what they think about this topic.

stigmí » Morena_Lu Of course...I know something about 8th house x)
So we should believe her...

Anyway, I think that scorpio aspects are not enough to make whole picture. Because it cant prove that this woman want to show it in extrovert way and that her self-confidence is real.

I read somewhere that femme fatale is combination of fire element and the role has also midpoint of asc venus. I didnt analyze it...

SimonG » ram_goat I agree its confidence but nit so wholistic... i think its cinfidence in their power over someone. Unfortunately this tends to be stronger in young people in their unbalanced relationships with each other. So i think with age especially past the saturn return, the femme fatale becomes more and more exposed and analysed in public and has to retreat.

Morena_Lu » stigmí She has 8th house stelium(Scorpio house)

Her / / in in the 8th house

She is ASC

Pluto trine Ascendant orb +5°09´
Mercury trine Ascendant orb -5°41´
Jupiter trine Ascendant orb +5°44´
Neptune sextile Ascendant orb +3°49´
Uranus trine Ascendant orb +7°49

I think that her beauty is very Plutonic if you ask me. ;)

stigmí » Morena_Lu Just note....Monica has nothing to do with pluto/scorpio. But she has moon venus and mars in Leo. And this is what i feel as very atractive. But this is another type of atraction. For example Venus of scorpio is building her values on sex-appeal. Venus in Leo is simply queen x)

There is good question what make femme fatale from ordinary woman in her character.

TimeLord What about people with Venus Mars Conjunction very close to Angles ?

RohiniMoon Well, hot toddy!

I´m waiting to hear what you have come up with.

Cmon, don´t be coy!

Morena_Lu » Nola_la "That movie was made for Her "

Yes, I thought the same..


I really like that picture you posted, somehow I really understand that type of woman..

Apart from her truly majestic elegance, Monica Bellucci invests her character with an aura of tragedy, of some profound and unrelenting emotional trauma and pain which remains unspoken throughout the film and reaches its climax at the very end. Malena´s stunningly beautiful eyes remain constantly downcast, and her face -- tense and pierced through by psychic pain (she rarely raises her face, let alone speaks words)..


And the ending..what a masterpiece!



I also liked Natalie in "Closer"...