Venus´ house placement in natal chart and attitude towards romance and relating

March 22, 2020 at 04:30 (UT/GMT)
(Libra) themagi
Venus´ house placement in natal chart and attitude towards romance and relating
I´ve heard many versions of this, but would like your take on it. What is the meaning of Venus´ house placement in one´s natal chart, if any, in regards to romance and relationships?

Does my Venus being in the second house (regardless of sign) say something about how I relate to others, or is it just the sign that matters? And if does mean something, what does it mean?

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March 25, 2020 at 12:46
(Pisces) fishscales » orkest
"I think that jokes have some kind of power."

They do.

Say someone makes a joke about a topic you take very seriously. You may react angrily, fill with pride, indignity, self righteousness, etc. What´s happening in that situation is that your own ego is attacking you... Controlling you. You become a victim and a slave of your own attachments.

But, if you´re able to look past all those things, and enjoy the harmless nature of a joke, you´ve just slapped down your own ego. Even if you don´t think a particular joke about something you take "seriously" is funny, but you don´t get offended or perturbed about it, you´ve risen above yourself, and there´s definitely power in that: It´s the whole point of life.

Just ask Jesus. :3:
March 25, 2020 at 03:06
(Libra) themagi » Peter Davis
"I see! Well, welcome to the club, haha! But trust me, the right girl would not make you feel bored at all. I had an interaction with a female friend where we talked daily and for quite a few hours a day, and this for many months (with some "break-ups" in between, haha, or many? haha). And I tell you, bother, I just couldn´t get enough of her! There was no way for me to get bored with her; not a chance. So it is all about having the "right" connection, you know. Unfortunately, there were other "complications", but none that had anything to do with boredom. I mean, we were able to talk for a whole day long and not have enough. I´ll miss her for eternity, though, :-((. Next lifetime perhaps."

"Just live in the present, my friend, and let the future take care of itself. Nothing more wonderful than "living in the moment". No offense (well, it isn´t really an "offense", haha), but it seems you have never been really in love, haha. Because when we are, we don´t really care about any of that. Being with that person becomes the "natural" and "expected" thing. Everything just "flows" in a perfect balance, you know. As I said, it is all about the "right person".


Actually, I do take offense to that. How do you expect any man to dualisticly grade his experiene in terms of having been in love or not?! According to whose yardstick!The nerve!

Ahem!Well, I had one real relationship my whole life, and it was quite a while ago....I can tell you we also had unreconcilable "complications" ourselves but there certainly was big love there and boredom wasn´t it....but my Saturnian foresight saw the seed of ´the end´ for the relationship and as much as it broke our hearts we had to terminate due to no longterm potential.....

That being said I can intuit what you mean by not growing bored and things just flowing and being in balance.....love for another might not have triggered such peak experiences for me....but other things like alligning with my soul and spiritual stuff.....did reconcile apparent "win lose" scenarios in my mind where I wasn´t afraid to miss out on all sorts of things because what I had in front of me fulfilled something deep - once you find the vein of your alignment....everything else shifts. But this growing bored dynamic is about the starting relationships/dating phase.

As for living in the moment....I don´t see my FOMO as a problem necessarilly...I´m just a multidimensional spirit with a lot to explore. It´s not like I´m perusing the rest of the world and thinking of greener pastures as I start a relationship with someone.....it´s just that my needs are very hollistic and all-encompassing and it takes a certain kind of profile to tick all boxes. I can´t justify a relationship without that....hence getting ´bored´.... But if I don´t entertain the idea of dating ´anyone´ then I´d be shooting myself in the foot because I´m not even going out there to see what´s in the sea.

I also have a very strong personality. Not all levels of emotional maturity can handle that....call it being an old soul, whatever....and I´m very aware of the power I can have over a girls emotions and often times have it happen they are more into me than I am into them...or just aware of the magnetic pull of that Venus/Scorpio/Pluto - I used to be the kid all chicks liked and remember hating that feeling; I think a lot of classial Libra qualities I sort of denied in myself due to that - my hate for humanity helps me balance my natural facility with charm. I say this with no pride whatsoever...but I can be kinda intense and I think I push people away pre-emptively to not create drama.

"You need an "Uranian" kind of partner, yes. An Aries or Leo (a high vibrational one) with very strong Uranian traits. And some strong Virgo or Gemini placements."

Yes, Uranus quintiles my ascendant and trines my NN. But Virgo? No offense man, your people´s sign is growing on me lately but.....what on Earth would ever make you say that? I´d think I´d suffocate with a Virgo. good god! The opposite of Uranian!

Yes, high vibe Leos are totally different from the average Leo...it´s the sign where emotional maturity is easiest to see for me...and I´ve had great chemistry with at least one Leo. The pompous, stick-up-their-own-arse Leos who can´t laugh at themselves or would not approve of my Gemini buffoonery need not apply though. Nothing worse than Leos who feel themselves to be too "dignified" to engage in self-deprication. Actually...in general terms....I don´t think I can take a partner who can´t laugh at herself. That´s one of those litmus tests for me in relationships to gauge the character of a person.
March 25, 2020 at 03:02
(Virgo) RohiniMoon » fishscales
Fish wins. THe end

:61: :61: :61:
March 25, 2020 at 02:46
(Pisces) fishscales
Tough crowd...
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March 24, 2020 at 21:15
(Virgo) Peter Davis » themagi
"Hey the connection between Aries and my stance towards conventional relationship stuff rings very very true. Never thought of that. Although as a Libra Rising my fifth house of romance is also in Aquarius, so that makes it a double whammy (since Uranus is also about independence, non-conventional, freedom etc)"

Exactly!

"I definitely need freedom in relationships. I think my Uranus opposite Moon is a beotch to handle though...I´m always afraid of hurting girls even before I start something with them....because the painful truth is that I grow bored easily and change my mind quickly ........."

I see! Well, welcome to the club, haha! But trust me, the right girl would not make you feel bored at all. I had an interaction with a female friend where we talked daily and for quite a few hours a day, and this for many months (with some "break-ups" in between, haha, or many? haha). And I tell you, bother, I just couldn´t get enough of her! There was no way for me to get bored with her; not a chance. So it is all about having the "right" connection, you know. Unfortunately, there were other "complications", but none that had anything to do with boredom. I mean, we were able to talk for a whole day long and not have enough. I´ll miss her for eternity, though, :-((. Next lifetime perhaps.

"...on one hand it´s true that fixed Venus energy makes me very very committed....but my emotions can feel trapped when commitment is expected....."

Same here! But I believe it has to do with meeting the "right" person, you know.

"I have a very ´let´s see what happens tomorrow´ view of relationship.......with a mix of committedness.

That´s because of your Aries NN, I believe. We need to make sure that we will remain free and independent, without losing our individuality (and habits) in the process. Trust me, it wouldn´t happen with the right person.

"I´m full on locked on on that person while I´m with them....but I know my heart might ask me to leave everything and go take a job somewhere else in the world or change my mind on the fly.....and I always feel relief when I quite jobs or relationships.....a big theme in my life is FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out)...my Gemini Moon and other placements make it so I can see so many amazing potentials."

Just live in the present, my friend, and let the future take care of itself. Nothing more wonderful than "living in the moment". No offense (well, it isn´t really an "offense", haha), but it seems you have never been really in love, haha. Because when we are, we don´t really care about any of that. Being with that person becomes the "natural" and "expected" thing. Everything just "flows" in a perfect balance, you know. As I said, it is all about the "right person".

I used to think - until a few days ago - that I didn´t know the true meaning of "being in love". To me, that was a silly, "illogical", "impractical", and nonsensical phrase. If it wasn´t "perfect", then it couldn´t be "true love", I believed. But it has a lot more to do with "perfection" and never having arguments/fights. I can´t even explain it, haha. Because it is one of those things that we need to experience in order to understand it. And to understand how not being able to be together with the one we love and to still call it "being in love", is very confusing to say the least. But it is also true. Perhaps I will never understand the mechanism of that completely; I am too Virgo-like, it seems, haha.

"That being said.......it´s also very true I crave stability. If a girl shows up that meets all my needs...or the situation we are in (environment, etc) then I may stay indefinitely in one place....but if some needs aren´t met, I can´t compartmentalize."

I understand.

"Yes, I´ve been realizing Aries energy in women is extremely attractive to me. She can´t be immature...as immature Aries energy is as off putting in the same degree....but an independent, self-assertive chick who is okay beating her own drum (I think that´s the quality that I most like; I want an soul that matches my respect for freethinking and going my own way; women´s who just go along with society´s programming don´t have that essential quality I like in a partner)."

You need an "Uranian" kind of partner, yes. An Aries or Leo (a high vibrational one) with very strong Uranian traits. And some strong Virgo or Gemini placements.

"One VERY important placement I´m starting to understand plays a big role....and isn´t shown on Astro Seek is Vesta on the 7th. Vesta has to do with where you are invested, where you have a spiritual zeal of foresight and almost purity......and mine is in the 7th in Aries. It trines my Juno (also connected to marriage), Saturn and Uranus and actually quincunxes Venus. It represents my kid´s dream,desire and vision of my perfect partner........which I think accounts for that Uranus oppo Moon dynamic - I intuitively know deep down my true partner must have this special feeling to me........I´m not terribly motivated to pursue relationships as my life shows..........but I always had this intuitive sense of this energetic blueprint I have inside for the partner that most suits me.......it´s heavily hidden now by a lot of energetic knots and conditioning.....but it speaks to a very spiritually aware woman who sees my true nature very deeply......."

I totally understand and I can relate to that myself.

"Anyway, the Venus/Pluto thing about relationships has some truth to it. I never had a very active romantic life...but maybe because my desire for freedom is really big....and because I intuit a lot of inner work goes into having truly authentic relationships....and that´s not what I see in society."

Relationships are not a "hobby" or a "need" as most people think. They are not meant to "complete us". Only a "Whole" person who has faced his/her demons is ready for a relationship. A true relationship is about two individuals who feel very complete own their own, independently of their relationship; who have already understood the real meaning of true "intimacy" (which has absolutely nothing to do with sex); who have already faced their dark energies; and who desire to share what they are with each other, but without trying to possess or "own" one another; and who give each other the space and freedom to remain an independent individual as well. And to me, that´s a true relationship. Anything else is but the manifestations of our Ego.

"So, yeah, if I was more of a serial monogamist like most people....I´d probably bump into a lot of drama.....because relationships must go through that "Scorpio litmus test"....if you can´t handle exposing your shadow to me and vice-versa....the relationship is doomed."

Yep! That´s your Pluto-Venus talking, haha. And Venus ruling your 8th too. Nothing feels more wonderful than the feeling of being able to show our shadow side to another and feel accepted and understood. Not necessarily justified or supported on any negative and socially harmful behavior, but understood and given the chance to change and to improve ourselves.

"I am very emotionally demanding of a partner. I must meet their soul. If you ARE all Scorpio n shit...but it´s a pattern for you to go through drama in relationships....I´m not game either....I´m well aware of the power of the Plutes....to wreak havoc in people´s lives."

Oh, I just hate drama!!! I am already 51; I am totally done with dramas, haha. Not interested, thank you!! Now, I only want to have peace, balance, and harmony. And I rather spend the rest of my life "alone" (I am never alone if I have myself) than having to go through ANY kind of drama again. Now way!!

"It takes a mature soul to be able to handle Scorpionic themes with the right balance and maintain their emotional equanimity in the relationship."

Most Scorpios I know just can´t do that, unfortunately. So yes, it really takes a very mature soul.

"Anyway, thanks for the input bro. :) It´s very appreciated."

Sure! You are most welcome; always my pleasure, :-).
March 24, 2020 at 13:36
(Virgo) Peter Davis » orkest
You totally missed my point, but that´s ok. We can agree to disagree.
March 24, 2020 at 12:29
(Sagittarius) orkest » Peter Davis
Is there a deeper reason to not to make jokes of religion?

Is there a list what you can´t make jokes of?

-religion
-people
-government

I´m going to offend people even if I don´t mean that. It´s inevitable. Maybe sometimes only my presence offends them?

I think that jokes have some kind of power. They expose stupidity and hypocrisy. These images posted below are a good example. It has to be rude and insensitive in order to force to think about it. Does Jesus or any higher power mind it?
March 24, 2020 at 11:55
(Libra) Opal E
Your Jupiter 6th house is trine Venus 2nd house, You may find who you are looking for at work.
March 24, 2020 at 06:16
(Virgo) Peter Davis » fishscales
You shouldn´t use religion - any religion - or any of its symbols to me jokes. That´s rude and insensitive, my friend. I am not trying to fight/argue with you; I know you are a good man. But that´s very insensitive.
March 24, 2020 at 06:01
(Pisces) fishscales » themagi
And yeah, I know I´m going to hell...

But it sure ain´t because of what I´m posting here brother...
March 24, 2020 at 05:44
(Libra) themagi » fishscales
Baby Jesus is looking down at you all in deep disapproval. He may be all about unconditional love....but you guys are sure to go straight to hell.

Btw, I expected more from a Pisces, fishscales when the topic is Jesus.
March 24, 2020 at 05:43
(Virgo) RohiniMoon » fishscales
:61: don´t forsake me....no fear, JC, I´m sure the power of Christ compels them!!
March 24, 2020 at 05:38
(Pisces) fishscales » fishscales
Actually, in these times it would probably be more like...

"Yo I know it´s 3am...but y´all got any toilet paper??

I got me and 12 disciples, and it looks like we ate some bad loaves n´ fishes...

It´s like parting the Brown Sea up in the Christ Bunker right now...please... Don´t forsake me..."
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March 24, 2020 at 05:27
(Pisces) fishscales » RohiniMoon
Maybe they just got woken up by this guy...

"Yo... It´s Jesus... Y´all got any weed?? “
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March 24, 2020 at 05:21
(Virgo) RohiniMoon » fishscales
:61: probably remarkably accurate ...some HOT bedtime action right there! :61:
March 24, 2020 at 05:07
(Pisces) fishscales » RohiniMoon
Another successful Christian Mingle hookup
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March 24, 2020 at 04:57
(Libra) themagi » Peter Davis
Hey the connection between Aries and my stance towards conventional relationship stuff rings very very true. Never thought of that. Altough as a Libra Rising my fifth house of romance is also in Aquarius, so that makes it a double whammy (since Uranus is also about independence, non-conventional, freeedom etc)

I definately need freedom in relationships. I think my Uranus opposite Moon is a beotch to handle though...I´m always afraid of hurting girls even before I start something with them....because the painful truth is that I grow bored easily and change my mind quickly .........on one hand it´s true that fixed Venus energy makes me very very committed....but my emotions can feel trapped when commitment is expected.....I have a very "let´s see what happens tomorrow" view of relationship.......with a mix of committedness. I´m full on locked on on that person while I´m with them....but I know my heart might ask me to leave everything and go take a job somewhere else in the world or change my mind on the fly.....and I always feel relief when I quite jobs or relationships.....a big theme in my life is FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out)...my Gemini Moon and other placements make it so I can see so many amazing potentials.

That being said.......it´s also very true I crave stability. If a girl shows up that meets all my needs...or the situation we are in (environment, etc) then I may stay indefinately in one place....but if some needs aren´t met, I can´t compartmentalize.




Yes, I´ve been realizing Aries energy in women is extremely attractive to me. She can´t be immature...as immature Aries energy is as offputting in the same degree....but an independent, self-assertive chick who is okay beating her own drum (I think that´s the quality that I most like; I want an soul that matches my respect for freethinking and going my own way; women´s who just go along with society´s programming don´t have that essential quality I like in a partner).


One VERY important placement I´m starting to understand plays a big role....and isn´t shown on Astro Seek is Vesta on the 7th. Vesta has to do with where you are invested, where you have a spiritual zeal of foresight and almost purity......and mine is in the 7th in Aries. It trines my Juno (also connected to marriage), Saturn and Uranus and actually quincuxes Venus. It represents my kid´s dream,desire and vision of my perfect partner........which I think accounts for that Uranus oppo Moon dynamic - I intutively known deep down my true partner must have this special feeling to me........I´m not terribly motivated to pursure relationshisp as my life shows..........but I always had this intuitive sense of this energetic blueprint I have inside for the partnet that most suits me.......it´s heavily hidden now by alot of energetic knots and conditioning.....but it speaks to a very spiritually aware woman who sees my true nature very deeply.......


Anyway, the Venus/Pluto thing about relationships has some truth to it. I never had a very active romantic life...but maybe because my desire for freedom is really big....and because I intuit a lot of inner work goes into having truly authentic relationships....and that´s not what I see in society. So, yeah, if I was more of a serial monogamist like most people....I´d probably bump into a lot of drama.....because relationships must go through that "Scorpio litmus test"....if you can´t handle exposing your shadow to me and vice-versa....the relationship is doomed. I am very emotionally demanding of a partner. I must meet their soul. If you ARE all Scorpio n shit...but it´s a pattern for you to go through drama in relationships....I´m not game either....I´m well aware of the power of the Plutes....to wreak havoc in people´s lifes. It takes a mature soul to be able to handle Scorpionic themes with the right balance and maintain their emotional equinimity in the relationship.


Anyway, thanks for the input bro. :) It´s very appreciated.
March 24, 2020 at 04:13
(Virgo) Peter Davis
Ok, so Venus.

Venus - among many other things - represents two big themes: relationships (through Libra), and money (through Taurus).

In a man´s chart, Venus represents the spouse, and in a woman´s chart, it is Jupiter.

You have Venus in Scorpio in the 2nd house conjunct (a 7-8 orb) Pluto who is also in the 2nd (Remember, I´ll be using Whole Houses and not Placidus).

Venus is ruling your ascendant and your Taurus 8th house. So the Lord of the 1st and 8th is sitting in the 2nd in Scorpio, and conjunct Pluto.

As with any placements/aspects, this have both; positive and negative effects. I´ll discuss everything,and you decide whether or not it describes you, and whether or not it is real to you. I am only describing possible scenarios among a few of them.

As Venus is in the 2nd (naturally ruled by Venus and Taurus), then perhaps (as you already mentioned) you seek out partners that are "stable" (both emotionally and financially), loyal, and goal-oriented.

Because Venus is in Scorpio, you need passion and deep feelings; superficiality just doesn´t work for you. So perhaps (I am saying perhaps, hahaha) you are not a "player". Because Scorpio usually want to devote themselves - in heart and soul - to just one individual.

But, Venus is conjunct the Planet of painful transformations and ups and downs; Pluto. Also, Venus is the ruler of the 8th house (sudden events and ups and downs). So this could indicate a love life with many ups and downs, where painful losses and transformations have occurred.

As Venus is ruling your 8th (the occult, mysticism, etc) and as Venus also represents what makes us feel good, then this shows a love (Venus) for the occult, astrology, etc. And perhaps you would like your partner to have those same inclinations as well, as Venus (what you want in a partner) is ruling the 8th.

Regarding money (Venus) it is the same; many ups and downs in your finances because the ruler (Venus) of the 8th (ups and downs and sudden events) is in the 2nd (money and finances), and conjunct Pluto.

But this could also bring you luck in winning the lottery or in getting an inheritance. Like money could suddenly come to you in a totally unexpected way.


I can see that you have an 7th house Aries NN (hey, welcome to the club! Mine is in the 12th). Aries is a very free and independent sign, which explains why you do not seem to be too worry about relationships and about the "conventional" ways to go about it.

You need to feel free and independent in relationships, otherwise you could feel "trapped". In fact, you might be avoiding relationships at a subconcious level to avoid losing your independence. But being a double Libra is a bitch, isn´t it? Because you ALSO want to find a meaningful relationship.

Mars is the ruler of your Aries 7th house. The ruler (Mars) of the 7th is in Capricorn in the 4th and square the Nodes. Carefully with attracting to you partners who are hostile, argumentative, and who are always disagreeing. But this could also (only if well handled and understood) bring you partners who are very Aries-like: independent, self-assertive, self-confident, etc, which is a good thing and something you prefer (And need, also).
March 24, 2020 at 04:10
(Virgo) RohiniMoon » fishscales
Of course it was! :61: :61:

They seem pretty socially distant.....lol
March 24, 2020 at 04:07
(Pisces) fishscales » RohiniMoon
OK I´m pretty sure that was a joke...

In which case..

:61:

If not...

✝️
March 24, 2020 at 03:54
(Libra) themagi » Peter Davis
"But careful, my friend; that transiting Lilith conjunct your Descendant can only attract to you one of those "female fatales", and sex is a double-edged sword with a very very fine cutting edge. So perhaps it is better to stick to the "hand" for a few days"

Are you kidding me, I´m a Venus in Scorpio, man. With lifetimes-long vows of asceticism and celibacy, but a Venus in Scorpio nontheless! :P And it´s trining Jupiter in Pisces.....I already lost the battle against that fem fatale before we even met lol

Nah, I got Mars in Cap, my will is strong :D
March 24, 2020 at 03:48
(Virgo) RohiniMoon » fishscales
Try Christian mingle
March 24, 2020 at 03:46
(Libra) themagi » fishscales
Lol, I´m immune to all viruses. Or maybe the timing of the transit means life doesn´t love me and just f´in with me :D
March 24, 2020 at 03:27
(Pisces) fishscales » themagi
"....but I think I´m feeling like going out and meeting people"

Well, your timing could be better on that score...

Maybe someone has come up with "socially distant" dating sites already..
March 24, 2020 at 03:23
(Virgo) Peter Davis » themagi
"Lol, sure."

Great! Let´s see what we got, haha.

"Damn, maybe I need to start looking into transit astrology. I ´am´ unusually....I was gonna say horny (?), although that´s not very kosher is it...needy(?)...the last couple of days."

How about "all of the above", haha.

Your sun is currently transiting your 7th house, and exactly conjunct the Descendant. The same thing with Chiron, but as he is a slow-moving planet, he has been there (and will continue to be there for a while).

Then transiting Lilith (the "I feel horny these days" part, hahaha) is also conjunct your Descendant and conjunct the transiting sun.

Then transiting Mars (the rulers of your Aries 7th house) is conjunct Mars - that´s a lot of energy of any kind, haha).

Then transiting Venus is in your 8th ( did you say "horny"? Haha), and natally, Venus is in scorpio (ruler of the 8th) conjunct Pluto (ruler of the 8th).

See? It is expected to be "horny these days", :61:

But careful, my friend; that transiting Lilith conjunct your Descendant can only attract to you one of those "female fatales", and sex is a double-edged sword with a very very fine cutting edge. So perhaps it is better to stick to the "hand" for a few days, :61:

"I always mocked dating culture....but I think I´m feeling like going out and meeting people."

Yeah, that´s those transits. Also, transiting Chiron conjunct your Descendant is focusing your attention on healing whatever "wounds" you may have in the romantic department.

"You´d be surprised how ronery it´s like for us double Libras :´(
:D"

Oh, I am quite aware!

I´ll be back in a little while to tell you about what your Venus placement and aspects might mean.
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