The astrology of laziness and refined procrastination

March 21, 2020 at 11:21 (UT/GMT)
(Capricorn) Luna Alba
The astrology of laziness and refined procrastination
So I guess I´m the type with various interests, but it´s hard for me to keep it focused and following the action till the end. I would just put it aside and take interest in smth else, not finishing anything.

This is particularly annoying in the time of covid, when it would be the proper time to work on a toned body, do an online course, read valuable books and actually finishing them...???

Any insights, anyone? I guess a Taurean influence can bear the blame...

This also sounds very Gemini-like...but it´s not an explanation in my case, as I have nothing in Gemini :-?

Uranus or Neptune, maybe? :-?

Do you have such aspects/tendencies? And how do you manage to keep focused?

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September 9, 2020 at 20:44
(Capricorn) Luna Alba » Ani Lavagnini
"If u have tauro Asc maybe could be notic able".

Yeah, I would say I definetely Taurus...my parents are taurus also.

There´s only 3 minutes between Aries and Taurus on my birth hour, so I think it was rounded up, which officially makes me a 29 degree Aries As...but Taurus is pretty obvious.

Imagine a Cap Stellium w Aries Rising...I should look and dress like a man, yet I am a Venusian ;).

I do have Aries impulsivity, bluntness and drive - but Mars is part of the Stellium. Venus is also there, both close to the Sun, so I have influence of both...plus the rest of the planets in that Stellium.

I am a very ambitious and driven person...but I´m not the most energetic person...I need my me time, my free time, my hobbies etc... so my energy level and my determination sometimes cease to be at the same level with my potential.

I work hard but it´s not the center of my existence, I do like to relax, enjoy myself and smell the roses on the way... :17:.

A Cap-Aries combination should produce a genuine workaholic...I´m not quite there, I get there´s more in life than mere working and no fun.

It made sense Aries is smth I might have overused in past lives...I´m very strong, Aries, but it was hard for me to express Aries typical assertivity until even recently.

And I still question and overthink if it´s fair, if I´m doing the right thing in the proper way etc...
September 9, 2020 at 18:52
(Sagittarius) goldenlion32
I believe procrastination can be involved with the Earth Signs and planets in Taurus, Capricorn, and Virgo. Which is usually dependent on what houses and aspects. Since there may be delays naturally, obstacles, adversity, and part of the soul lesson to overcome these things in life and beat the odds.

Each Archetype and Planet represents those individuals who may present an opportunity to push us to our limits. Which when we´re younger we might not see clearly the purpose, how to problem shoot, problem solve, adapt, adjust,but it is meant to teach you to rise.

Laziness can be mistaken for delays with transits ending karma with others in the family.

Perhaps even for example: Sagittarius Pluto was quite fast and you could get a job faster, seemed like activities were easier, everything kind of happened without so many restrictions, rules, regulations, policies, and procedures as Capricorn Pluto transit.

Capricorn Pluto transit has been more like Molasses because we already experienced a crash in Jupiter in Capricorn in 2008 I think it was and again now at the end of the cycle in Jupiter in Capricorn in 2020. And there´s been a lot of changes in the way society does things all along with more paper work, rules, regulations, restrictions, policies, and procedures and they become obstacles in the way of people at times depending on what Government Branch your talking about.

For example: Drivers Licenses now need more documents to prove identity along with Passports.

Job Interviews take a few months instead of being hired right away. Training online before being hired to see if your dependable, finger printing, background checks, perfect resume, degrees in education or training, communication/presentation skills, and team interviews.

When you have more obstacles, adversity, hoops to go through, this is when people procrastinate because they have to climb a mountain to get to where they want to go in life.

Then they have to learn to focus on thing at a time. Which you have a bit of perfectionism in society from Virgo and everything has to be a certain way to their standards. While Capricorn also has their organization, structure, planning, and wants all the ducks to be in a row.

Taurus is more I work hard, but as long as you have to make people work ten times harder then they have to survive, we just get annoyed making life more complicated then it has to be. :61:

Usually my case, I get annoyed with the other two in any job I´ve ever had because things have to be done a certain way and I usually learned from being a Nurse Aide, there´s tons of ways to hang and fold clothes, do the dishes, do yard work, and every house I went to with in-home care I had to adapt to their way because they were the customer. Otherwise even in Private AFC Homes everyone had their own personal centered plan as well as managing the Mental Health Home.

Trying to make everyone conform to one way becomes an issue at times with diversity.

And I usually do things accordingly. Adapt, adjust, and go with what is happening in front of me every day.

Usually even when I had a schedule to go to homes, often two nurse aides would show up and one of us would go back home. Or some event happen and it was cancelled or rescheduled. So even if you try to plan life there is always a break in the routine or pattern.

Procrastination can be from overthinking, contemplating, and meditating too long, or waiting for others to learn something.
September 9, 2020 at 18:37
(Virgo) Ani Lavagnini » Luna Alba
LunaAlba: the reason to say they work in 10 th house is because is a Stellium. The energy is conactenated. From Venus near the Cusp of Ten and so far from 9( far in degrees and in Nature cuz is different sign) is 7. After comes Mars Mercury in 9...and combust Sun in 10 °>>>MC in 14 ....and 7 degrees later Neptune and Urano. So not o ly is a Stellium is a Perfect Midle situation in between Venus and Urano is The MC.

The sun there is like a Glue....the power of MC in unavoidable.

Theres no way Mercury´s power reaches the cusp in Sagit becuz is burning with the fire of Sun....concatenated is yhe weird term.

Aries Libra is about ( Me my will my power my idea my self concern VS the need of working toghther...the approval of others...the consideration of others in our plans)depends of the houses bit contains the cusps.
In another post you said that your time birth wasnt yet corrected.
Maybe would be nice to use any of 3 systems to be sure about your Asc.
Even when Aries could be...the so many interests would still be there ( both regents are in the stellium....and for 5 minutes or 10 the cusps would move a little.
Is really something to do.
If u have tauro Asc maybe could be notic able....but theres no pictures of your face.


I don´t prefer any system yet cuz i havent tested any other ....just Placidus and makes sense...

Im gonna post my books soon so everyone cannbe able to search for those authors.
A particular good one talks about intercepted....and says that humanity just tends to use the easy double cusps sign ( gemini 4 u).
A theory says is bcuz in past lifes u use a lot of Aries....being so driven....and now u need to think many ways to getbwhat you want....or not getting it...or getting s different thing.... Just Gemini openess to everything.

About the lazynes.... REALLY don´t know!
What if your Asc in 7 Tauro and venus Im Mc ?
September 9, 2020 at 17:43
(Capricorn) Luna Alba » fishscales
I do appreciate your insight about my T-square, too. I re-read it from time to time. :74:

One of my earlier threads, also.

Ty, fish :68:
September 9, 2020 at 17:40
(Capricorn) Luna Alba » Ani Lavagnini
What does it mean when Aries and Libra are intercepted ? How does that manifest, Ani? :68:.

As about Mercury...I think is in the 9th, in Placidus and Whole Sign.

What is the system you prefer? :27:
September 9, 2020 at 15:21
(Pisces) fishscales » Luna Alba
"Must be an expression of my 9th Stellium, someone told me at some point my destiny it´s to write and publish :4:."

Well, maybe someday you´ll put that 9th/10th house Cap stellium to work :46:

There´s a time for everything... Right now just may not be the right time...
September 9, 2020 at 15:01
(Capricorn) Luna Alba » fishscales
Haha, ty, fish :)).

Must be an expression of my 9th Stellium, someone told me at some point my destiny it´s to write and publish :4:. But I´m too procrastinator for that or I´m just uninspired or I´m just too refined at this point in my life 😂.

And it´s a shame my talent for words it´s not 100% transmitted in English :4:
September 9, 2020 at 14:01
(Pisces) fishscales
Still love that "refined procrastination" line :61:

I was reading through another one of your older threads that just got bumped, Luna... The one where you said "Geminis are trapped in their own inconsistency"...

You come up with some good stuff...
September 9, 2020 at 11:39
(Virgo) Ani Lavagnini
Hi Luna. I don´t agree with you;
You have 2 and 3 in gemini
Mercury´s 10 ( wawwww that house!!!!)
Sadly libra intercepted in 6
But the virgo cusp there....holding plenty of interestes

U have tons of :
( wanna be cardinal issues..... aries librA intercepted)
And stellium ( the biggest i have ever seen)

C mon.... Do what u can while u can. The thing is to enjoy meanwhile....as much u enjoy the more u accomplish

( Sorry to disagree 😇🤭)

Best wishes Géminis mind.virgo hands.
Mercury´s full of flowers in ten!

❤️
March 23, 2020 at 11:45
(Cancer) Trevor » ram_goat
That is so true, procrastination is associated with 12th house, neptune, and some of the most creative people ever born have strong neptune, so escapism must be good for us too
March 21, 2020 at 18:52
(Taurus) IIyyaarr13
Stephen Craig Paddock decided on "gambling" as a relief from laziness and wound up with murder-suicide for when the gambling was "over"
There are positive hobbies that he could have had so he would not have had to lose ´argument` with the ghost of his public enemy father!
Venus can be lazy planet if it has to rule Libra, Eris may be the true ruler of Libra!
Procrastination as refined?
A good lack of retrogrades makes the :160: :194: :157: more powerful than it would be otherwise; War between works!
March 21, 2020 at 18:43
(Capricorn) Luna Alba » ram_goat
"friendships with older, Saturnian people"


That´s been a constant source of growth and support indeed ???
March 21, 2020 at 17:31
(Aries) ram_goat » darkneptune
My laziness costs me so many things in life but I can´t help myself.

yeah it feels good, and it´s a harmless pastime. Highly underrated.. quietism..

Activity is overrated but we are a restless and warlike civilization at our core.
Also something that is overlooked and called everything except what it truly is..
March 21, 2020 at 17:28
(Aries) ram_goat » Luna Alba
my lazy song..

https://www.youtube.com/watch/…

beck- jackass
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YouTube
March 21, 2020 at 16:53
(Aries) ram_goat » Luna Alba
friendships with older, Saturnian people;

:3: :3:
March 21, 2020 at 15:22
(Cancer) Trevor
Laziness can be in eye of beholder too, Im far from lazy but others say I am due to lack of understanding
March 21, 2020 at 14:44
(Virgo) RohiniMoon » Luna Alba
Catchy tune.. :1: :15:

My favorite 80s British pop I guess you´d say is depeche mode and probably pet shop boys
March 21, 2020 at 14:43
(Capricorn) Luna Alba » Trevor
"Your greatest hopes will be challenged iv no doubt and how you react will either sustain it or break it"

...The romantic department/romantic partnerships, I guess. Makes sense, as Saturn opposes a 7th house Pluto.

That´s a recurrent theme for me.

I usually don´t have the best reactions, as the 5th house Moon is also involved in the T-square.

That´s quite sad/meh.
March 21, 2020 at 13:47
(Cancer) Trevor » Luna Alba
Its a 2 way thing,

MJ had his saturn conjunct his 10th, and look at what happened to his reputation,
So yea, it can put a person at the top of your profession only to recieve a knockback later in some way.

So having saturn in 11th can put a damper on your aspirations, things wont turn out as you hoped, but still some kinda success will be there.

I got a friend I had drinks with :36: his saturn in his 11th, hes a Libran, anyways he hoped he would stay with his wife and she wouldnt leave him but Saturn tested him on his reaction to her cheating, and eventually they broke up 2nd time she did it,
And his love life was everything to him being Libra

Your greatest hopes will be challenged iv no doubt and how you react will either sustain it or break it
March 21, 2020 at 13:46
(Taurus) Astro-Seek.com
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Great topic!
I´m extremely lazy person probably because of Taurus influence and Mars in Libra. Don´t know for aspects.
I can do nothing for days. Just laying on my bed and wasting time on my phone.
My laziness costs me so many things in life but I can´t help myself.
March 21, 2020 at 13:30
(Capricorn) Luna Alba » RohiniMoon
How do you relate to this song?. British Pop, I guess.

I have forgotten about it ;)). Used to like it as a teen.


https://youtu.be/c1EVjCKuJ9g
YouTube
YouTube
March 21, 2020 at 13:27
(Capricorn) Luna Alba » Trevor
Hmmm, so the Placidus perspective

In Placidus my Saturn is indeed in the 11th, in Aquarius.

My old book says : friendships with older, Saturnian people; difficulty in making friends; unfavourable experiences caused by the death of one´s friends or protectors ???

Breakups in the intimate relations, caused by the inability to make a proper cohesion between friendship and love ???


For women, issues in pregnancy and abortions; negative effect on the offspring.
(Damn, I´m now worried for my future little ones ?)


In Cap and Aquarius (checked): useful relations and support received from older people.


So, if the Saturn makes a square to the Moon it is considered a bad-aspected Saturn? ?

Or just a bad-aspected Moon? ?
March 21, 2020 at 13:18
(Cancer) Trevor » Luna Alba
I dont like Whole house, its best for very quick approximate readings but for accuracy, I use placidus

its either in one house or the other, but theres a big difference between the 4th and 5th, so I just keep to the accurate birth time or none at all

I tend to like capricorn ladies but they never like me that much lol,
March 21, 2020 at 13:12
(Cancer) Trevor » Luna Alba
This is all good stuff, if it was my chart, Id be more concerned with Saturn in 11th
March 21, 2020 at 13:08
(Capricorn) Luna Alba » Trevor
shows T bucket to Moon in Leo 5th

Yep, in Placidus. Hard for me to view a Placidus chart, my lack of drive makes it hard to understand the concept of intercepted houses ?

In WH it´s in 4th, which also makes sense for me, in terms of family background.
But I also have some Artsy/creative influences, specific to the 5th. But could be my Leo Moon.


I was reading about my 10th house Saturn in an old astrology book. It said it´s a mark of major/impressive social/career breakthrough at some point in life, but almost always followed by a painful "fall from grace"/regression.

The advice for people with this placement was to always aim lower than their worth, in order to prevent the disastrous fall.

PLOT TWIST ???: me being a refined slob is an evolutionist, self preserving mechanism that prevents me in making impressive but doomed progress that would lead to...the painful fall from grace ???



but when it comes to learning, you will be a Sponge soaking up info

Oh, trust me, I´m the ultimate queen ??? of the intelectual-useless-non-practical knowledge and I spend long time in reading articles on the additional themes ? in order to preserve this purposeless status quo :)
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