Twin Flame to Soulmate journey - Discussions, questions

fishscales » ram_goat "Crazy" by Patsy Cline...?

Not just because of the title... The words actually fit...

fishscales » ram_goat "or "Brown Sugar" by ZZ Top.."

Ooohh...good song....

fishscales » ancient_astrology I agree that soul and spirit are two different things.

The Theosophical doctrine (which is actually much older than modern Theosophy) states that we possess two souls: the masculine human soul, and the feminine spiritual soul. The goal is for the two to merge. The masculine human soul is often referred to as the groom, and the feminine spiritual soul as the bride.

Once united, the two souls then gain...or earn...the ability to merge with spirit.

At any rate, I believe confused, bastardized interpretations of this concept could have led to the modern concept of twin flames.

ram_goat » fishscales "Spiritual" significance attached to unhealthy, destructive relationships.

Blechh.


Theme song for the twinflame thread: "Jane Says" by Jane´s Addiction..

or "Brown Sugar" by ZZ Top..

fishscales » ancient_astrology Twin flames just set my bullshit detector to red alert...

"Spiritual" significance attached to unhealthy, destructive relationships.

Blechh.

If people want to believe in twin flames, they should go ahead. But please don´t try to convince the rest of us there is some "spiritual" component to it.

There´s nothing spiritual about astrology either, for the record.

I guess I´m gonna continue riding my high horse, and if I fall off, at least I´ll be laughing on the way down.

ram_goat » Moon_Queen

ram_goat » fishscales Oh my we´ll have to reach back to India to get older and weirder than that..

ram_goat » Moon_Queen Wow you are clearer and more poetic than many native English speakers..

ancient_astrology » Moon_Queen <<Souls do not mate, souls are sexless>>

I disagree with this, however, my disagreement is based upon my definition and the traditional one at that, of soul. So I want to define what I mean by soul, so that we can be sure not to be disagreeing on words and what they mean.

Some people equate soul with spirit. The use the two words interchangeably, but they are not the same thing, if we look into the ancient and medieval use of the word. Most notably, it is good to look at, say, the work of Marsilio Ficino on this subject for the Renaissance definition.

So according to this model, there is the physical world and there is the spiritual world. How do these two interact? The interact through the medium of soul. If we had a Venn Diagram, we would see spirit-soul-physical. Soul participates in both the physical and the spiritual world. So, based upon this definition and model, I would say that the soul is sexed and that souls do mate.

And we find throughout the world traditions that use sex to raise us toward spirit. I don´t have any kind words for Julius Evola and his politics, but I will say that his "Eros and The Mysteries of Love: The Metaphysics of Sex" is a very good survey of the subject.

ram_goat » Leo Moon I find an amazing credulity has developed in people.
Ideas without any foundation are accepted without hesitation.

almost time for Publisher´s Clearing house sweepstakes to come back isn´t it? Letters from Ed McMahon telling you you´ve won a million dollars..

ram_goat » Leo Moon I think we need an astroseek song something along the lines of american pie, that covers all the many topics that arise in here.

of a few jimi covers.. but astro themed.

how are your songwriting skills?

or maybe rewrite some Jewel songs with astro-themed lyrics?

ram_goat » ancient_astrology A needed shot of truth...

Moon_Queen Souls do not mate, souls are sexless

But, OK I understand the point of this story...

We feel greatest atraction to ones that can provode us (troughout composite energy) easiest energy flow and easiest personal taks acomplishment.

If we have 4thH Pluto and overal task related to love and emotions we will "seek" composites that can provide us love and fine emotions settings and better energy flow than our natal.

We will not accept too sexual, bussines, social, friendly or other kind of composites...

ancient_astrology » Leo Moon <<I should have mentioned that as a teen I was all in on the “soulmate” idea.

After breaking up with half a dozen soulmates I changed my mind .

So I am definitely mocking my teenage self here.>>

Yes, I get what you´re saying. It´s true that soul mates come and go! There may be such things as soul mates, but it is also true that infatuation can lead one to use the term too loosely.

Leo Moon » ancient_astrology I should have mentioned that as a teen I was all in on the “soulmate” idea.

After breaking up with half a dozen soulmates I changed my mind .

So I am definitely mocking my teenage self here.

Leo Moon » ancient_astrology I take all esoteric subjects with a big bag of salt, though I find them interesting and it keeps my imagination fired up.

Yes it was a bit of a high rocking horse. A lot of movement but going nowhere .

I get Your point Ancient. Being the jester should be informative not just critical.

I feel people sell themselves short thinking there is one special person for them. It’s usually just limerance.
There are many people for everyone.

I find an amazing credulity has developed in people.
Ideas without any foundation are accepted without hesitation.

Empiricism and classical logic seem to have disappeared.

People don’t like to let go of their emotional ideas and it frustrates me and leads to the occasional cutting comments.

There is a host of problems facing humanity that require critical thinking to solve.

So a bit of mockery is due. Though as I say it would be better if it was more constructive.

ancient_astrology I make fun of this Twin Flame stuffy myself, but let´s remember where we are before we get on our high horses and make fun of this thread too much. Astro-seek is a place where people think there is some correspondence between planetary movements and human behavior and events. That sounds just as ridiculous, if not more so, than people claiming they have a Twin Flame or Soul Mate. There may be such things, although obviously people need to careful not to succumb to self-delusion.

fishscales » ram_goat Interestingly enough, the original "cutter" was actually a guy...

ram_goat » ram_goat heloise & abelard? older still..

ram_goat » fishscales I´ll up ya one Sada Abe..

Leo Moon » fishscales Ohhh..You found the picture!!!

fishscales » Leo Moon "Twin Flamus in Uranus!

Speak it thrice and the Kool-Aid guy will bust through Your wall! Oh Yeah!!!!"


Aha...So THAT´S the connection between Kool-Aid and absurd cultish beliefs...

Leo Moon » Leo Moon Too bad ginseng queen split.

She was twin flammable.

( give me a break....,I’ve still got eyes)

Leo Moon » fishscales The Earth is obviously triangular, I read it online so it must be true.

Some charismatic dude said it without offering any empirical evidence.....but those science guys , whom I am too lazy to understand, must be lying and wrong.

The pictures from space were all faked by lizard people and aliens ! For what purpose?!

Who knows ? It’s obviously some convoluted plot of some kind!!

Probably to make everyone’s genitals purple! Why?!

Because they can of course!

Twin Flamus in Uranus!

Speak it thrice and the Kool-Aid guy will bust through Your wall! Oh Yeah!!!!

fishscales » ancient_astrology No she throws them in a roadside field and lets a cop with a flashlight find them...