IQ and the birth chart - Discussions, questions

leorising » Iroquois Pliskin My sun is libra 29 degrees, my mercury is conjuct with Venus , I have moon in gemini 28 degrees, I take a time to accept some information, but I know that there is another trues about everything, I just maid a choice for 1 point of view ... but I defend this side that I collect information...

I believe that Neptune is the problem of your father...

Iroquois Pliskin » leorising My father has Scorpio Sun conjunct Mercury Scorpio conjunct Scorpio Neptune with all three in a sextile to Virgo Pluto. I have never known someone as stubborn and self centered as he is. He refuses to admit that he is wrong about anything. It’s like talking to a brick wall.

Iroquois Pliskin » fishscales I can attest to this. I have a Mercury Uranus opposition. I can instantly grasp new ideas and concepts. I can skim through a book and write a summary of it. I’m good at figuring out solutions by thinking outside the box. I got good grades in school without ever studying. I am very scattered and have an overactive mind though.

leorising » Iroquois Pliskin My mercury in scorpio at 4th house , I go very deep with issues of family and relationship, and I feel when somebody lies to me . I usually test a lot of information until I accept it as truth

fishscales » Iroquois Pliskin Yeah didn´t even realize you mentioned the big picture vs details thing before I wrote my post. Sounds accurate.

fishscales » Redophile Thinking big, literally.

Mercury is so neutral, alot is going to depend on the sign positions of both Mercury and Jupiter.

I have a Mercury/Jupiter square.

I think it gives me a tendency to exaggerate.

Details and big picture thinking are often at odds.

Iroquois Pliskin » Redophile It’s kind of like having a Sagittarius Mercury. Broad minded, philosophical, arrogant, talking too much, can see the big picture but not the details, generalizing everything, thinking too much.

Redophile » fishscales What are your opinions on Jupiter-Mercury contacts?

Iroquois Pliskin Mercury in Gemini, Aquarius, Scorpio are probably the three best placements for intelligence. Gemini and Aquarius are extremely quick at grasping concepts and ideas. Gemini spends time learning something new for its own sake constantly. Scorpio usually obsess over something and gain a huge amount of knowledge of that topic as a result of crazy amounts of research. Aquarius is extremely skilled at thinking outside the box and coming up with new ideas.

I think Mercury in water signs are extremely irrational because they place more value through emotions instead of logic so they are inherently biased. Scorpio in particular is too stubborn for its own good because of their fixed nature and will not admit they are wrong no matter how much evidence you have that contradicts what they believe in.

Astro-Seek.com » fishscales System message: Post has been written by user Olenna, who already deleted profile on this website:
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Yeah he sort of has this tendency too but it`s in weird kind of way like he will obsess about all the things that are wrong with his health, not doing anything about it, then forget about the issue and obsess about something else. Quite the character lol
But it`s worth mentioning he also has Moon in Gemini conjunct Mars, opposing Neptune, so yeah there`s more than one thing to it.

Astro-Seek.com » MarvinReal System message: Post has been written by user Olenna, who already deleted profile on this website:
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Yeah in some ways i am a typical country person, like my simple life, but i don`t know about traditional ´´family life´´, i`m super independent, don`t want kids. On the other hand i like to take care of the man in my life (if such a thing is possible) or people i care about.
I don`t consider myself intelligent. I have some gifts but nothing worth mentioning, i have more right brain abstract thinking.
I grew up in a very poor town, now it`s actually nice comparing to the way it was 15 years ago.

fishscales » MarvinReal ""Average Jane" is better than "Mega City Girl"."

The conflict between which I prefer illustrates my moon in Aquarius, Venus in Taurus square pretty well I think

Astro-Seek.com » Olenna System message: Post has been written by user MarvinReal, who already deleted profile on this website:
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I like people from the countryside or small towns. Seriously I do. "Average Jane" is better than "Mega City Girl".

Good luck in finding your Average Joe or City Man. You´re smart, as I see you.

fishscales » Olenna Lol.. Wow... My Mercury is in the 6th too... Opposed by Uranus and Pluto, although loosely...

I definitely used to be kind of paranoid about health related issues...

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I´m very intelligent and have interests and talents here and there. I just struggle with low self-esteem (regarding personality and qualities) which keeps me from using my full potential...
Idk about my chart but professionals tested my IQ: 125, would be higher if I knew how to do maths...

I do act dumber than I am... Because reasons...

Astro-Seek.com » MarvinReal System message: Post has been written by user Olenna, who already deleted profile on this website:
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Yes of course Mercury in Virgo is great, like i said there`s too much to remember.
I never took any kind of IQ tests. In my country nobody cared about such things, at least not in my generation of post communism. I`m from the country side therefore stupid and i should stick to farming and cows and such. I had horrid education system.

Astro-Seek.com » fishscales System message: Post has been written by user Olenna, who already deleted profile on this website:
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I have a friend with Pluto and Uranus involved with his Mercury in the 6th house, all in the same sign loosely conjunct. Very smart but unfortunately with a touch of paranoia. So these can be very good aspects but it can create some mental issues too if other configurations are suggesting it.
It`s the mad genius effect.

Astro-Seek.com » Olenna System message: Post has been written by user MarvinReal, who already deleted profile on this website:
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You have Gemini-loving bias. What about Mercury in Virgo?

Maybe it will surprise, but my EQ was in highest class when I took the test as adult, while my IQ was superior, but far from a genius, and I think it may decreased to the downside further since then. What about you, Olenna? Did you ever tried it?

fishscales » Olenna "There is so many combinations it`s impossible to remember them all."

Yeah there is...

Mercury/Uranus/Pluto for example... The evil genius...

Haha... Not in all cases obviously... But if I knew an evil genius I might look for some aspects between Mercury, Pluto and Uranus

Oh shit...I have aspects between Mercury, Uranus and Pluto..

Astro-Seek.com » fishscales System message: Post has been written by user Olenna, who already deleted profile on this website:
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Yeah that`s why i put that disclaimer there about left brain/academic type of intelligence.
Just to be clear a person with Mercury in Pisces won`t be ´´stupid´´, other major things can influence that, everything has to be considered, if it`s badly afflicted in other ways.
Yes Mercury/Moon i forgot to mention, and i have this conjunction
All of those you mentioned are valid. There is so many combinations it`s impossible to remember them all.

Redophile » Redophile Seems like Pisces Mercury is in good standing.

fishscales » Olenna "There are several types of intelligence."

This is the kicker isn´t it?

This is off-topic, but intellectual intelligence is highly overvalued in our society.

A Mercury in Pisces person may have a lower IQ (maybe, not definitely) but I´d think they´d be inclined to "know" more on an intuitive level, than if Mercury were in a more "rational" sign such as Gemini or Virgo.

Granted, classic Mercury-type functioning could be impaired in a Mercury in Pisces person though...

Getting back to the different types of intelligence...

Mercury/moon could give good emotional intelligence

Mercury/Venus good artistic intelligence

Mercury/Mars good mechanical intelligence

Add Uranus and maybe Neptune into the mix and you could replace the word intelligence with genius...

Redophile » Redophile https://proastrologer.com/2013/04/…

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Astro-Seek.com System message: Post has been written by user Olenna, who already deleted profile on this website:
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Mercury in Gemini, with good aspects from Uranus, Pluto, Saturn conjunctions are good too. Mercury in houses that give it strength like 3rd, 11th, 1st, 6th. Mercury in good aspects to Jupiter. Well placed Jupiter.
Uranus in good aspects and placements. These are some that indicate higher IQ.
Lower IQ can be seen from poorly placed Mercury like in Pisces in a detrimental house with oppositions from Neptune, Pluto and sometimes Saturn. These are just some general observations. I used Mercury as in a type of IQ left brain academic kind. There are several types of intelligence.