Looks and appearance (first overall impression)

May 22, 2022 at 22:27 (UT/GMT)
(Gemini) Plutonic Rose
Looks and appearance (first overall impression)
When I started to get into astrology one of the very first things I tried to find out was if there is anything in our natal charts that indicates or explains our sense of fashion and how we dress. Even if the way we perceive someone is somewhat explainable when looking at the persons chart. I honestly couldn´t find too much, just what people generally say about the rising sign, but I believe and somehow even know that there is more hidden in the natal chart that might explain our looks and appearance, how we dress and how we are perceived.

I have been told that I don´t look like a gemini and many even say that I look like a typical scorpio (Im sure the experts are already tired of hearing the stereotype that scorpios are always the emo and goth looking people).

To be fair, I haven´t met many geminis in my life so I don´t have much to compare to and even if I did, Im sure it´s not the sun sign that we should be looking at.

Does anyone wanna share their insight about this and what in my natal chart can answer my questions above? It would be really interesting to know which placement, aspect or something else in my natal chart is responsible for this.

I have many pictures in my gallery and I will also put my natal birth chart in here.

Thanks in advance, I really appreciate it.
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May 27, 2022 at 16:27
(Aquarius) Vane Days » Plutonic Rose
draconic chart is our soul

you have to get your draconic natal chart here in astroseek, when you have the graph it appears in the options: draconic chart, Alt graphics, Aspect tables, Draconic x Natal, you have to choose "draconic x natal" and make a comparison of both, it´s like a synastry of your tropical chart with your draconic chart, and you have to analyze it just like a synastry.
The draconic chart should not be analyzed separately.
May 27, 2022 at 00:01
(Gemini) Plutonic Rose » Vane Days
Hellou and nope, I haven´t. I have heard about it though.
May 26, 2022 at 23:59
(Gemini) Plutonic Rose » Potatooo
I also think that Astrology is not a fortune telling. Obviously no ones chart is gonna be like " At this age, you will be wearing clothing xy ", but I know that there are very important hints which I, as someone who isn´t that deeply informed about astrology, can´t really see. Usually when I wanna know something I do my own research or ask people.

So far some people here have given me some great insight and approaches that I haven´t even thought of so far.

I really appreciate it. 🙇🏻‍♂️
May 26, 2022 at 23:25
(Pisces) persephone_rising
Love your style! The prominence of you hands in your pictures screams Gemini to me, and arms/hands covering the abdomen/front of the body says Virgo (imo). I’ve also noticed a link between Gemini and tattoos, don’t know why. Virgo rising may relate to the curated and precisely crafted nature of your style. Mercury in Cancer and first house moon could point to the “moody” aesthetic. Also, I don’t know anything about black moon Lilith, but her partile opposition to your mercury seems notable. Taurus stuff could lend to the “lux”/ textural aspects of clothing choices. Basically, every placement can contribute, and every aspect can modify.

Most descriptions of style based on rising sign alone I’ve found to be extremely inaccurate. For example, some look at Libra rising, ruled by Venus and say they’ll have a romantic, feminine, style. As a Libra rising, I can say that is totally untrue for me. However, I can interpret Libra (a social air sign, ruled by Venus, exalting Saturn) as the need to look “acceptable” and put together, or to be dressed appropriately for the occasion. Depending on if that occasion is the met gala or running errands, that can look extremely different. So I wonder if rising sign says more about why and how we dress ourselves the way we do, rather than what the actual style is.

That’s why I’m guessing that the influence of your Virgo rising could be the discriminating taste and a curated style, since Virgos are perfectionists and master editors. Also, you could look at your lot of Eros. Since it’s Venus’ lot, I wonder if it could say something about aesthetic preferences. Sorry for the long response, it’s a subject I find really interesting!
May 26, 2022 at 22:52
(Aquarius) Vane Days
hey! did you see your draconic chart?
May 26, 2022 at 08:54
(Gemini) Plutonic Rose » Anthony19
I actually read things about Hermes/Mercury a while back and I wanna read more about it, but the one thing that definitely amazed me was the fact that of all gods, Hermes was the only one who could travel across all the realms, as the messenger of the gods. So I thought since both gemini and virgo, two really important signs in my chart, are ruled by mercury, there must be a link to that.

I don´t wanna claim I am heaven sent or came down to this planet with a holy mission, but I do think that everyone has their own little mission on this planet. I have always been the person to give wisdom and knowledge since people have always asked for it. A lot of people feel really comfortable with opening up towards me and even explicitly said that my calm nature made them feel comfortable. I just felt like to some extent I am meant for this, helping people in need, answering questions that other people struggle to answer, just give advice to those who need it. It did feel like " Maybe people like me are like Hermes, we connect dots and convey what needs to be conveyed ".

At some point I did start to get much more interested in the " darker " side of life and nowadays my view on things in life are quite unique and I am glad I have become this way. I think it´s great letting people know that there is much more to all this than just laughter and happiness and that that is completely fine. I guess yeah, maybe one way of me showing what I think, feel and wanna say is shown on the outside, through a darker aesthetic.
May 26, 2022 at 08:38
(Gemini) Plutonic Rose » Aragatito
I agree, if there is anything nice about the new generations it´s that there is more diversity than in the generations before, even though I would still say that my style is still rather simple. I think we all know styles much crazier or even " over the top " if you will. Can look nice sometimes but sometimes it doesn´t, but that might just be me.

But I am glad you think so about my gallery, thanks. 🌹
May 26, 2022 at 02:52
(Gemini) Potatooo
So I did a whole lot more research and I feel like maybe style isn’t something that’s just found in a natal chart. I looked into Geminis and other signs to get an overall view.

So I’m going to try to summarize this the best I can without typing an entire book lmao

The reason I didn’t associate Earth moons with this style is because Dave Navarro has a Gemini moon. (Earth signs tend to gravitate toward darker colors/neutrals). And I personally know 3 Geminis with Earth moons who aren’t interested in Emo or Gothic styles at all but usually wear dark colors (Just T-shirts and jeans). I also didn’t associate houses and natural rulers because that didn’t seem to make sense and neither did MC and ICs. When I looked at each chart, I noticed some peoples moon sign seemed to match with their clothes and for others it looked like their sun sign. Some the rising and some the MC. For example, David Bowie (Capricorn) seems to be very Aquarian (Aqua rising) but if I look at MGK (Taurus), his moon (Pisces) seems to be the theme because Prince (Gemini) also has a Pisces moon and they both have a similar style even with completely different risings, IC, MC and moon house placement.

Kurt Cobain (Pisces, Cancer moon, Virgo rising) seemed to almost not care at all about his style, he preferred comfort (Cancer moon)

Harry Styles (Aquarius, Libra moon, Libra rising) has sooooo many weird outfits and I feel like that could be his Aqua sun, Aqua IC/Leo MC.

Bjork (Scorpio, Scorpio moon, Scorpio rising) seems almost Aquarian in her style and music (Uranus conjunct MC). Her Scorpio traits show in other ways but not much in her clothing. Katy Perry has triple Scorpio as well.

And lastly, I am a Gemini (Taurus moon, Libra rising). I’m a tomboy, I wear baggy clothing. I’ve never really felt drawn to girly clothing. When I was 9, I decided I wanted to dress like a boy and I’ve been that way since. My style, I guess is somewhere between a 90s rapper, an e-girl, and a painter lol I look for comfort, appearance and quality/durability. I don’t really have pics of my outfits cuz I’m not big on picture taking but feel free to look at my chart, it might say it there, idk. (I also have resting bitch face syndrome lol so I put up a friendlier photo)

But as Etherealmind has said, rising seems to be more on how your face appears rather than style.

It could also be your look giving the clothing this look. For example, if a goofy nerd puts on your outfit, I don’t think they’ll have the same effect lol. Same goes for when designers pick certain models to flaunt a certain outfit.

A good example of this is, Tyler Hoechlin. When he stared in the tv series Teen Wolf, he played as a badass werewolf. And even tho that style suited him well, in reality he doesn’t dress like that.

All in all, I don’t think style is found in 1 specific place or aspect or house. It’s a combination. But even this is still varied due to the fact that a chart is not going to tell you every single thing that goes on in your life, it’s not going to tell you what exact path your going to take or what exactly is going to influence you because it only tells you the possibilities. This is why astrology is like an intuitive art… using lines and symbols to paint a picture but giving you an Edvard Munch impression rather than a Leonardo Da Vinci, if you know what I mean

Btw I love your style. I think I forgot to mention that in the last reply
May 25, 2022 at 23:07
(Leo) Sunnyshadow » rohini moon
It does seem to make sense. Can´t remember where I saw that. Clothes gotta be comfortable above all else for me, lol. Never got into the skinny jeans. :4:
May 25, 2022 at 21:52
(Pisces) Anthony19
In Mythology, Herme (Mercury) was the only one who went into the realm of Hade (Pluto) and came back alive!

May be this is where your subconscious mind working out in your chart to fulfil your "natal promise".

After all, Pluto (and Uranus) is the most rebellious planet. It rules your 4th house (your roots) and your part of fortune is on the IC opposite Jupiter and Saturn (The establishment)
May 25, 2022 at 21:41
(Pisces) Aragatito
in fact your style is too cool like mercury i think they compare you to scorpio because you seem passionate but actually you have geminian appeal Marilyn Monroe, Angelina Jolie, and the extravagant Helena Bonham, I really like your art, I have many Gemini friends, I connect with them because my sun Mars and Venus are in the 3rd house, ruled for mercury, and if there is one thing I know it is that this side makes us not feel the same as others we like differences we express ourselves through our art and music, I see your photos and I say wow I love knowing that these new generations also have that good taste
May 25, 2022 at 20:12
(Aries) Wolfmoon » sullenxx
"I´ve been told by someone a while back that our IC may influence our appearance."

I´d agree with this. I look Aries, but in saying that I also have sun conjunct my IC.

I´m also "plutonic" in appearance. Pluto on my MC, Opposes my Sun, Squares my Moon and Asc.

As for "fashion"... no idea. I dress like im about to go for a surf then paint a house. I don´t care. Doesn´t sound like a Leo Moon. Probably more the Aqua Asc
May 25, 2022 at 20:06
(Aries) Wolfmoon » nutelina
if?
May 25, 2022 at 19:13
(Virgo) rohini moon » Sunnyshadow
I agree with this, too. it´s part of it - I do believe. Leo is my 10th.. and I can see that.
May 25, 2022 at 18:40
(Leo) Sunnyshadow
What about 10th house? Isn´t that the way we present ourself to the world?

I read something one time about my cancer 10th house and wanting to wear comfortable clothes at work, and that is true. I like loose fitting clothes and kinda homey or comfortable. Nothing flashy

?
May 25, 2022 at 18:28
(Gemini) Plutonic Rose » Morena_Lu
I generally say I don´t categorize my style and just call it my own, but most people say I look like an e-boy. I don´t really agree but some examples do look fitting. But some other like goth, punk or whatever else there is also doesn´t seem completely wrong to other.
May 25, 2022 at 18:25
(Gemini) Plutonic Rose » Etherealmind
I have never looked into cancer rising, but I know that virgo rising definitely fits. Especially when shavr my beard if fully you can see the symmetrical shape of my face, especially my jaw etc. Oh and yeah the " resting bitch face " I am famous for lmao.
May 25, 2022 at 18:16
(Gemini) Plutonic Rose » sullenxx
I think I also made a post on here about all my pluto aspects (maybe not I don´t quite remember, bht I remember mentioning it somewhere at somr point), but yes, I do have a lot of pluto aspects and I am very sure that it does affect me in many ways, not just on the outside. That´s also one of the reason why I use the name " Plutonic ", I can identify with the energy.
May 25, 2022 at 18:14
(Gemini) Plutonic Rose » sullenxx
Yeah I have heard caps are also said to be on the darker side when it comes to fashion. Usually people say either cap or scorpio if they have to guess my sun sign.
May 25, 2022 at 18:09
(Gemini) Plutonic Rose » Anthony19
It´s the first time someone said it this way and when I think about it, it does make a lot of sense.

When I was younger I wouldn´t care about what I wear, but a few years ago I noticed how that changed. Not because I started caring about what others thought about me, but because I myself just wasn´t happy with throwing together some random t-shirt with regular jeans.

And yes, I do want to get across a message, not just with my clothing style though, I generally think the " darker " side of life can and should be appreciated/integrated as well. But that´s a whole other topic to discuss about.

Thanks for your insight, I appreciate it.
May 25, 2022 at 17:57
(Taurus) Morena_Lu
You look very Plutonic, I think probably moon :194: :160:, but your style is also very dark/gotic..
May 25, 2022 at 17:15
(Taurus) nutelina » Potatooo
If I were gay... :75:
May 25, 2022 at 16:56
(Gemini) Plutonic Rose » asmaa kim
Maybe at some point in my life I will meet more people with heavier gemini energy and will be able to say it myself.

And yeah, as I said in the post, especially scorpio is has a heavy stereotype, basically saying " if it´s black ir dark, it gotta be scorpio ". I am not even complaining about that though, I love that style.
May 25, 2022 at 16:24
(Virgo) Etherealmind
Your face makes me think about a mix of Cancer ASC (fair complexion, "light" face features) and your Virgo ASC (fine and discreet face features like structured and not prominent).

Maybe your general look isn´t linked to your ASC but your face features really looks like the description of your Virgo ASC conjunct Moon (in my opinion) !!
May 25, 2022 at 16:03
(Capricorn) sullenxx » sullenxx
Hi again, I just looked at your aspects. Your IC is in Scorpio. That could be the reason you may have Scorpio looks. I´ve been told by someone a while back that our IC may influence our appearance. But, you also have Venus Sun and Mars in Gemini, and Venus aspecting Pluto. That´s my take on it, I could be wrong.
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