Poll: Western or Vedic

December 27, 2021 at 10:32 (UT/GMT)
(Scorpio) SpaceChild
Poll: Western or Vedic
If you wouldn´t mind, comment which you prefer. Feel totally free to explain why you prefer one versus the other.

I´ve recently been trying to learn the Vedic method, and would really appreciate any kind of information from anybody on their views and would love to learn about any personal experiences in your own charts Western versus Vedic that make more sense to you/fit for you.

A question: Do I need to be using Whole Sign House System for Vedic on astro-seek, rather than using Placidus?

Another Poll: Which house system do you prefer to use? Why?

Thanks

-SC

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December 29, 2021 at 15:36
(Capricorn) stellium12 » Kisses
I watched her video and it doesn´t resonate. It would be a rare case for me to act like that. I would have to be like a wild animal in a cage. Maybe there are other aspects that overpower the arrogance of this interpretation.

Vedic also discusses the worst aspect you can have is sun conjunct saturn which I have. I do not see the fatalistic things this conjuncts projects using vedic.

I´ll stick with western. I understand my 12th house stellium using western and it fits very well.

There maybe a lot more to it that I am missing and a highly trained astronomer may be able to show me where I am wrong or misinterpreting it. Best to all that are comfortable with Vedic if it works for them.
December 29, 2021 at 15:31
(Capricorn) boyakasha the guru » LotusStar
:15:

Most of us here started from Western, Vedic wasn´t even on our minds and now everyone is on Vedic´s side like come on. The admin here added the nakshatra system some months ago, it wasn´t even on this website 2 years ago.
December 29, 2021 at 14:02
(Taurus) Sæglópur
As many others are doing here, I´ve been taking my first steps into the Sidereal+WS side of things and finding much more granularity (if not accuracy) in those interpretations. Unfortunately it is also a bit demoralizing as I see suddenly more inherent flaws and somehow even less of a clear way forward re: attainable objectives and life path.
Case in point:

" The ruler of the Ascendant - Mercury
These people tend to be mentally active, they often think about their behaviour and they try to find explanation for it. These people never do what they want; they let other tell them what to do and it upsets them. They function as a connector or mediator. They act through spoken or written words.
The ruler of the Ascendant (Mercury) in Pisces
These people do not act clearly and intuitively; they escape, they are rhapsodic or they pursue a dream. They are waiting for a fruitful source of inspiration; they hesitate. Every act is a dilemma for them." (Sidereal, Whole Sign interpretation of my ASC)

Every act a dilemma? Yeah tell me about it. Never do what I want? Check. Yup, still waiting for that "fruitful" source of inspiration.


It´s not all despair - I took some solace that, at least run through this filter, maybe I´m not as incompatible with my wife as I figured.
December 29, 2021 at 13:37
(Scorpio) SpaceChild
Thank you for all replies - I am terrible busy today, will read everything when I can.

Looking forward to more.

I believe it was OctoberScorpio who mentioned KRS on youtube - that is the person I´ve been looking to as well as of late.

Any other and all info I am looking forward to, reading when I am able.

:75:

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-SC
December 29, 2021 at 05:47
(Capricorn) boyakasha the guru » OS*
Thank you thank you haha :37:
December 29, 2021 at 03:56
(Scorpio) Kisses » stellium12
You’ve got a lot of Jyeshta planets. Check out Claire Nakti’s video on Jyeshta nakshatra! If that doesn’t resonate with you then feel free to throw Vedic out the door :)
December 29, 2021 at 00:15
(Capricorn) stellium12
Vedic changes me from fire, Sagittarius to water, Scorpio. I´m definitely fire. The big one for me is I don´t hold grudges. That doesn´t sound like a Scorpio at all.
December 28, 2021 at 18:53
(Virgo) LotusStar » boyakasha the guru
"However the synastries ive seen in tropical here also were very true.

Vedic doesn´t pay much attention to the outer generational planets but they have a say in astrology too, I had venus conjunct pluto with a person and it was very much there."


Agreed :15:
December 28, 2021 at 18:17
(Scorpio) OS* » Sir Ching
Actually a good question, because depending on the Ayanamsa used this could change a lot of things in divisional charts.

I haven´t looked deep enough to say, but Raman & Lahiri seems most popular.
December 28, 2021 at 17:15
(Taurus) Astro-Seek.com » SpaceChild
System message: Post has been written by user Originallyweirdbutnormal, who already deleted profile on this website:
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A random website using duckduckgo, you can do your chart here.. no need.

After studying it more, I fully agree with Vedic interpretation of my chart, it took a while but makes total sense, even the topics I talk about are of Aries Bharani.
December 28, 2021 at 17:14
(Cancer) Sir Ching
Vedic hurts my brain, soo many variables. It creates this sort of cognitive dissonance and totally recks me. Especially when I have been focusing on each degree of each sign. Then when you couple that with 20 different options for the Ayanamsa it really get hairy.

What is the correct Ayanamsa to use? This video seems to figure it out but I have no idea what the conclusion was :61: Can anyone help?
https://youtu.be/xLM68781SLE

I am open minded I´m just still struggling to get past my comfort zone.
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December 28, 2021 at 16:03
(Scorpio) OS* » boyakasha the guru
hey Boyakasha, welcome back! :)
December 28, 2021 at 15:58
(Scorpio) OS* » SpaceChild
Hey SC,

That’s awesome you’re studying with a friend :) minus the timezones,

I understand must be a big leap when looking at Vedic, specially if you’re using placidus. The nakshatra and pada the planet, sun or moon is in will give much more thorough interpretations vs just the sign. Lunar mansions are important since this system is mostly based on the stars. Not to mention, showing an accurate representation of the sky. vs a seasonal pov.

There’s also about 20 divisional charts providing much deeper and insightful information on many different aspects of life. Health, marriage, wealth, past life karmas, etc.

It’s A LOT of information to unravel, Im currently still at beginners stages, learning about terms and meaning of the Nakshatras. Im not quite ready to start studying translated yogas from sanskrits :)



“Do you have any websites or perhaps youtube vedic astrologers that you consider to be accurate, or are you reading books only?”

I learn mostly from reading and writing but also auditory. I really like KRS, and recently been getting into VL Astrology on YT. Thus, I´ve been astonish by the information Vedic can provide, without disrespecting anyone beliefs, I’m just over the vague and generic guessing games of “Cancer says that you are either sensitive or insensitive to others” interpretations that western astrologers give.

This December, I ordered books. They still haven’t arrived yet. I started a forum post about Vedic book recommondations, hopefully I’ll be able to update you soon.
December 28, 2021 at 12:27
(Capricorn) boyakasha the guru
Vedic

Have 4 planets in the 12th with combust anuradha venus there. Purva Ashada asc makes things lighter for me :2:

An event took place in Nov 2019 and vedic explanations made more sense of it.

I like my 2nd, 8th and 10th house, above 30 points in ashtakvarga and some yogas too.

Debilitated retro Saturn in 5th was more accurate than in 3rd in Western.

However the synastries ive seen in tropical here also were very true.

Vedic doesn´t pay much attention to the outer generational planets but they have a say in astrology too, I had venus conjunct pluto with a person and it was very much there.
December 28, 2021 at 11:39
(Taurus) Rosincvist
There have to be a few folks who fall in :79: with the myriad Vedic Hindu sites! There remains well-established Western Astrologers and some well-designed mega-sites, don´t want to risk scrambling the two Astrologies, loyalty is rewarded!
December 28, 2021 at 11:32
(Sagittarius) Sus » SpaceChild
I totally get you. Vedic is rough and has so many details :41:
I´m learning too by my own so it takes time.

No, sidereal astrology has different schools, so to speak. KP astrology (uses placidus hs) jaimini, parashara...
I use prokerala, astrosage, jyostish and recently found clickastro.
You will have to dig deep and because they use sanscrit words, its not easy to understand but that´s why you have to dig even deeper :2:
Usually we look for isolated things, eg, moon in 6th and go check it. But remember, a chart is a whole and have to see lord, aspects with malefic or benefic, nakshatra etc...

Go slow and steady cause vedic its a all life study :32:
December 28, 2021 at 09:03
(Scorpio) SpaceChild » OS*
Thanks for your reply :)

As I was making this post I knew there had to be many if not just some topics just like this made already :4:

I have a friend that is helping me with Vedic but we are in different time zones so it is difficult.

I find a bit of a disconnect between my Mars being in 3rd house Gemini in Vedic
while in Western it sits in 4th House Cancer. I need to learn more with that. Also would like to understand my moon suddenly in 10th house and being Capricorn :61:

Question: Do you have any websites or perhaps youtube vedic astrologers that you consider to be accurate, or are you reading books only?

Thank you, and to everyone for the replies.
Looking forward to more.
December 28, 2021 at 08:46
(Scorpio) SpaceChild » Originallyweirdbutnormal
Can you link where you generated that chart from?
December 28, 2021 at 08:43
(Scorpio) SpaceChild
TO EVERYONE ABOVE: Thanks for your comments, really. Vedic is a difficult process for me to learn but I´m trying.

Any other comments are most definitely welcomed!
December 28, 2021 at 02:39
(Sagittarius) Philipee32
Idk i dont really know anything i just use western🙂
December 28, 2021 at 02:29
(Virgo) LotusStar
It´s hard because I do genuinely see them both work.

Can´t deny though that vedic, because of the nakshatras, goes into some freakishly accurate territory.

Just learning about the Lunar nakshatra alone you can go very deep. I listen to some stuff about it from some astrologers on YouTube even and it blows me away...

However, I also feel that tracking transits and progressions with western is accurate. So, I dunno. I´m not as good as understanding transits with vedic system but the western one hasn´t done me wrong either.

So all this to say, if I want to dig deep on somebody I always look at their vedic chart and nakshatras because I feel like psychology wise it´s as accurate as it gets, in my experience.

I wonder if, Western chart seems to show how a person sees themselves like their Ego, but vedic is who they are in essence...

Do I see myself as a Leo Sun in vedic? No. Not in the western understanding. But when I read the chart and see what Sun represents there, what it rules, and how that come into play then I´m like oh yeah... I see what it´s effect.
December 27, 2021 at 19:21
(Sagittarius) Sus
Gradually I´m more into vedic. Although its not an easy one to understand and learn but indeed explain much more about life events.

Sometimes I didn´t understand why transits were not accurate and after I use stellarium to see planets position I realised vedic its the thing.
December 27, 2021 at 17:28
(Taurus) OleanderFlower » Kisses
ahaa ok sorry :4: english is not my best language.. sometimes I misunderstand the meaning of the question :4: :61:

honestly? I have no idea what effect it has. I am not interested in transits yet. I don´t even master the basics yet, but I´m teaching :117:
December 27, 2021 at 17:27
(Scorpio) Kisses » Originallyweirdbutnormal
Idk about all those descriptions generated but if you learn the Vedic system and read your chart based on the divisional charts and the nakshatras, it becomes clear that Vedic is far more accurate.

Also, one thing that sticks out to me a lot about your chart is that you have Moon and Mars in Aries. Mars in Aries so strong Mars 💪🏼
December 27, 2021 at 17:24
(Scorpio) Kisses » OleanderFlower
I meant that Rahu is transiting krittika not that your Rahu is in krittika :)
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