Project on Gen Z Astrologers - Discussions, questions

AmberMoon There is never a status quo.

I can speak for myself in terms of Pluto in Libra:

disappointment in parental traditions, esp. the injustice it inflicts on others and the hypocrisy with which it´s lived. I seek for something spiritual that is at the same time tangible. In times of religious and other extremist mania, it is no longer reasonable or safe to expect from people to believe without seeing.


Then for someone I know closely with Pluto in Scorpio:

They often use the word cognitive dissonance to describe their feelings towards inherited beliefs. It doesn´t resonate but they still feel like they have to hide their newer views from the elder generation. They live with a secret.(I´m generalising, complement as you see fit 😉).

wildfl❀wer I started seeing patterns in terms of personality types. This can come from observing real life including reality TV shows. As Libra rising (interested in other people) all outer/social retrograde planets fall in the below chart area. Uranus, Pluto, Neptune are still there. Neptune would be in the 4th house (filming/watching private life). Aquarius Uranus (7 years period) would trine Libra rising to add astrology. Neptune Uranus conjunction preceded (1992-1993) (broadcasting astrology?) Could be wide access to the Internet too.

When I started studying my own chart I started feeling more confident about myself by seeing my weaknesses and strengths. Sometimes, it helps to find the right words to describe things or your own behavior. Astrological knowledge can heal and broaden your horizon. It can answer many questions for which you would need experience with people. You see why people think the way they think and what they want to see.

I have Sagittarius Pluto 00 degrees and Aquarius Uranus 3´00 degrees, 1996 year. I am not sure in which generation I am.

I can explain the belief in astrology as I have stellium and mainstream horoscope would probably come true unlike those with different planets in different signs. Then I´d dig deeper with Sag Pluto trine Uranus.

Cecilia_3 I am interested in astrology for so many years. I find electional astrology very useful. I sometimes look at the astrological situations and take my steps according to astrology like buying some things or starting a business, etc.

celestialcaptain » s81 Thanks for those links, you raise some good points about the definition and it´s definitely something that´s going to become clearer as Gen Z matures into adulthood and new generations form into the 2020s. Will be interesting to see how it´ll all be classified!

celestialcaptain » ram_goat Honestly crazy to think about and definitely something worth making comparisons with!

Yea I completely understand the problem with people almost farming information and that´s not something I´m here for. I cant thank everyone enough in this community for helping with my project just by taking the time to response!

This project will be completed in around 5 weeks time, and I will definitely send across my findings and also images of the editorial I design (maybe I can even make some copies to send people)!

celestialcaptain » ram_goat I completely agree, I´m going to look further into pre-pluto-sag 1960s/70s generations and the landscape in these eras to make comparisons to this resurgence of astrology within technology and social media. And like you said, because this information is being ´mindlessly´ fed to us, it raises some interesting points about the quality of what my generation are consuming in the context of astrology. Thanks again for making these points though, definitely useful for my research report!

goldenlion32 I´m not sure if you listened to these yet, but he does a good job speaking about the generations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch/…

https://www.youtube.com/watch/…

goldenlion32 » s81 I think many people do, but for a few years I have studied the different generations with Pluto, Uranus, Neptune, they do interact differently, communicate differently, and have different signatures that do show up when you´re interacting with them.

I´ve seen it anyway for quite a few years. I noticed this when my child was going to school as well.

It may be partially, I come from a Mental Health family, so watching the different groups through the years, they tend to stand out a bit to me.

s81 » goldenlion32 Well, I think people call "generation" to so many different things. The example of the "crystal generation / Pluto in Sagittarius" shows exactly that I think.
For me, generations are more useful in terms of society, so we can analyze a group of people behaving socially with more or less the same patterns, so social planets seem to me to be more important than transpersonal ones which influence many generations at the same positions. In fact, I guess I would call Uranus/Neptune/Pluto transgenerational planets.
But I´m fine if others think and practice different approaches (which is the case haha), I just posted since the original thread talked about Generation Z, and that´s a mainstream definition, with an enhanced definition today than years ago.

goldenlion32 » goldenlion32 Sagittarius Pluto began in 1995 in-between Scorpio Pluto. Although, you can pretty much look at marketing and advertising from 1995-2008 group of Sagittarius Pluto with toys, music, literature, video games, since it was aimed for that population. Art, Cartoons, Movies, Etc.

goldenlion32 » ram_goat Virgo Pluto´s usually Medical/Mental Health, Environment professions, Wellness/Fitness, Medicines, Sciences, Technology. At least most of them in my family all gravitate towards this in the family. Maybe Contractors, Builders, Real Estate, Excavating.

Otherwise Musicians "Punk Rock". Some are Spiritual Healers, and Politicians right now. I believe it´s more they just don´t focus on the older generations as much as Generation Z and Millennial´s because Marketing aims for them.

goldenlion32 » s81 I think there´s always a debate how mainstream sees a generation and Astrology with Pluto. The dates are often off simply because mainstream doesn´t go by Pluto.

RohiniMoon » ram_goat Yes! I was going to say Pluto-Gemini´s too..

My grandparents were of that generation, and actually one of my uncles is, dad and other close relatives were Pluto-cancer...

Agreement again Pluto-Leo - not a fan. No offense to them, but.. I also don´t like newer generations either. But I am always pleasantly surprised when I do find people from those generations who are very smart, and ones I can get Along with.. They usually aren´t much like the others in their generations... The smartphone generations... I don´t get them.

I´m more the type who would be sitting with the elderly in the park, feeding the birds bread and complaining with them about the price of it..

ram_goat » RohiniMoon pluto gemini was an interesting one too..

but a lot of extremes, some really good ones and some really bad ones.
But an interesting generation.

my least favorite, without question: pluto leo..

pluto libra seems to be living golden lives right now.

I still very fuzzy about what will be pluto-virgo´s contribution to the world.

ram_goat It seems like you would also need at least one other reference point, other
than the experiences of Gen Z alone, or else you end up with the same problem as a one armed juggler.. all throw and no catch..

if there has been a "sudden influx" of gen Z into astrology, then relative to when? the 1960´s? the 1920´s? The 1680´s?


I think pre-computer/post computer eras would be significant. Charts used to be
rather hard to do by hand. If not hard, then at least time consuming. With the advent of computers, it takes a mere button press and a second or two.

Also- pre smart-phone vs post smart phone era.. the smart phone effectively put a computer in the hand of each person (each kid..) and charts and interpretations were a mere button click away. Technology has so simplified the process that you don´t even need to own a computer or know anything about them in order to get a high quality chart in seconds.

Before computers, you had to go to a book store, usually a specialty book store because astrology was not such a common mainstream topic for a variety of reasons. So.. transport yourself to a book store, have money to buy books, time to read & understand them, and if one book was not so good, then repeat the cycle, using more money to buy another.

A very different learning cycle than mindlessly or impulsively swiping an iphone.

Libraries usually did not have many books on the subject, and usually they were either low quality or off-topic, and only tangentially "about" astrology itself. Good technical books were not so easy to come by.

I think in many ways the experience of pre-pluto-sag is probably about as relevant as the pluto-sag experience. Absent any history, you merely discuss yet another cultural fad, which we are all well acquainted with since the 1970´s and before (anyone old enough to remember the "pet rock" fad from the 1970´s?)..

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RohiniMoon » ram_goat and out of those, Pluto in Cancer are my favorites.

ram_goat I always thought it was interesting how many pluto generations
are currently alive on the planet right now..

pluto-cancer
pluto-leo
pluto-virgo
pluto-libra
pluto-scorp
pluto-sag
pluto-cap

All living side by side simultaneously. When has that ever
happened before? 7 generations alive simultaneously.

Also, it´s nice that you at least offer to share, but be sure to
make good on that offer in this thread.

This place is too full of m-fer´s that only take from the place
like they are getting milk from their neighbor´s borrowed cow, but
they never take time to give anything back. Such people are not really welcome here. The most common type we see in here are those who are
farming the forum for paid readings of various kinds. Your post is a close cousin to that kind. Be sure you give something back for what you take. Beware of taking things quickly into private messages where nothing is shared or benefits the community.

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s81 Just to correct some old information, sociology and other disciplines keep updating in this regard. Thanks to consuming patterns, suicides statistics and many other different sources of social information, the new generations are now (at least 15 years ago) more clearly defined. The Millenial/Y generation is defined between 1980-2000 and Centennial/Z from 2000. But this last year could change to even more thanks to that population turning more years old and keep generating more social information about themselves. If that´s the case, the Millenial or Y generation could match or even surpass the length of the GI generation (1901-1924) or the Silent generation (1925-1946) which are larger in terms of time (23 and 21 years respectively).

This information is used by marketing, publicity, ads tech companies, etc, to segment the market with precision. Just a few examples:
* https://www.uschamberfoundation.org/…
* https://www.goldmansachs.com/insigh…
* https://www.bbc.com/news/…

Can´t tell why some people keep updating wikipedia and other sources with outdated information.

In any case, I agree with the existence of a trans-generational segment usually called "crystal generation" mainly given by the enter of Pluto to Sagittarius (so involving the last portion of Y generation and the Gen Z), but since I know a lot of people from that segment, I know also that the "crystal" concept does only apply to an apparent majority of them, but not to all of them (I guess that explains also why that indicator is not a generational switch).

Jay Jay » celestialcaptain Cool! I´ll be happy to help.

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celestialcaptain » Jay Jay I´ll definitely let you know what I find out! And that´s really kind, I´ll definitely take you up on that offer when I´ve finished compiling some questionnaires it would be great to get your insight! So yea this project is for my University and I´m creating my own designed Editorial/Booklet alongside the research to compile my findings and showcase interviews etc.

Jay Jay » celestialcaptain Thanks! I´d really appreciate hearing about your results. If you ever want my opinion on anything related to astrology in regard to your project, feel free to message me. I love it when people make formal studies. Are you doing this on your own or part of a school project or professional project?

celestialcaptain » Jay Jay I´ll be sure to keep you posted when the project goes live as well! :)

celestialcaptain » nataliacytrus Thank you Natalia that would be super helpful! :)

celestialcaptain » Jay Jay This is really fantastic insight, thank you so much! And this relates nicely to some of the preliminary research I´ve been doing looking at Gen Z´s growing distrust with governments (particularly in the Uk and US) and the status quo and like you said we´re now beginning to search for definitive answers elsewhere - within astrology!

leorising » Jay Jay https://zodiaccorner.wordpress.com/…

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