mean Lilith in numbers and charts - Discussions, questions

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Third set - Outer planets (except Jupiter)

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Second set - Lights + Jupiter

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First set - Inner planets

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Next set of graphs represents aspect curves that Lilith is making with various sets of celestial elements among all the charts of celebrities.
Elements are grouped by similar curve shape.

First set consists of Mars, Venus and Mercury - inner planets:

Second set consists of Moon, Sun and Jupiter

Third set consists is of outer planets (except Jupiter)

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Yes, there are always nice ways to channel Lilith, that can be great servant if disciplined before she takes all the control.

stigmí I have lilith trine to sun, sextil to moon and square to venus...
And in minor aspect to saturn, uranus and neptune and nodes.

And thats true that I wrote poems. Many poems. It was for me very important those times....only one good way of expression...

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""As far as I understand, True Lilith somehow shows more what is cooking inside" --> What do you mean ?"

I have analyzed some charts, comparing T and M Lilith influence and as far as I can conclude is that T Lilith is showing some deeper, more profound mechanism and M Lilith is bit overall and it is usually the one that manifests in behavior. But they constantly overlaps, from case to case and it looks like that both should be considered.

For example I just started to read Franz Kafka novel "The Trial" and it is about the one young man "K" that was suddenly dragged in some absurd process of trial for unknown reason.

When I analyzed Kafka chart his (T) Lilith is in trine to Sun and in trine to Jupiter, where Sun is also making octile to Mars, so I can totally relate these positions to his novel.

But when I read his biography that describes him as a sexual addict "According to Brod, Kafka was "tortured" by sexual desire" (Wiki) and had many girlfriends, that totally resonates with his (M) Lilith in trine to Venus, Moon and Mercury. Mercury in this stelium trine Lilith, probably made him very insecure and "he was filled with a fear of "sexual failure"" (Wiki).

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(M) Lilith - Pluto

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(M) Lilith - Neptune

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(M) Lilith - Uranus

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(M) Lilith - Saturn

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(M)Lilith - Jupiter

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The next set of charts are showing how outer planets, that relate to higher functions, influence Lilith.

What I can see is that, in the case of outer planets influence, Lilith is decreasing and falling to average, meaning that she does not impact to make significant difference in unconscious and conscious behavior.

Etherealmind Hi!

Very good description of semi-square aspect :):). I usually tend to not pay attention to minor aspects otherwise the birth chart starts being confusing for me but I noticed only one semi-square in my natal chart : my Mercury semi-square my Midheaven and it actually makes lots of sense with this description. I´ll think about it :)!

About Lilith, I share on this thread how you had interpreted my mean Lilith natal aspect in Sagittarius which is trine my North Node (but also sextile my Moon+Uranus, square my Sun and sextile South Node) :

"I would say that Sag Lilith Pluto AC represents the greatest predisposition for entering the ultimate state of consciousness (Pluto) [...] Lilith as the inner truth at AC is making you very sincere and practically unable to deceive yourself which is you prime guide line to ascension [...] be truthful to yourself (AC-Sag Lilith) is your certain card for achieving inner harmony and peace."

For now, I think it´s the most coherent interpretation I´ve read about my natal mean Lilith and which I relate more, thank you :).

"As far as I understand, True Lilith somehow shows more what is cooking inside" --> What do you mean ?

LotusStar » Moon_Queen Consciousness level definitely changes things :) I have read Lilith in Aries presents high in criminal charts too, but have to look into more. I´m dealing with an Aries Lilith square Mars person now, the most I see is that he´s very competitive and I´m not sure he´s aware of how much it shows.

Personally I do have a distrust of authority, must admit. I had very bad experiences at work with bosses and authority figures all my life... It made me come to the realization I´m better off working as independently as possible.

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So good to hear that

When used wisely, all this Lilith influence might create great personalities by strengthening their will throughout resisting inner temptations, so, without any parking ticket, you obviously belong to way higher levels of consciousness

So it is all about our decisions and level of consciousness, and these statistic are just related to a group of lowest conscious possible (murderers) to show how Lilith plays in a raw mode of behavior.

LotusStar My True (Black moon) Lilith is semi-square Mars, sextile Venus, and square Jupiter. Mean Lilith is square ascendant and Pluto.

If I could pull it off my MC I would... It makes me feel overly visible in public which frankly my rising/Pluto hates. I experienced sexual harrassment or very inappropriate comments at every job I ever had. So that´s Lilith in 10th apparently.

I relate more to the black moon which is in Cancer in a more personal way, but I can see how public might see the Leo one.

No criminal record and don´t intend on it, I´ve never even gotten a parking ticket.

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Same here

Lilith (and Saturn) kicked me out of orbit in 2003 so hard that I needed 10 years to recover

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Yes I used the same chart pattern previously. I just decided to open new thread dedicated to Lilith.


"Some of us should be dealing with quintiles and septiles before graduating to ` ´ & ` ´"

Sure, but some people find it easier to fall than to climb

leorising I have a history of lilith activation, i have it in conjunction with my moon. (chiron is also there), in house 11 Gemini.
I had a pattern of friendships, with women born on the 13th to the 14th of June, there have already been 3 in my life from that date that somehow helped me get to my northern node (I have chiron sextile north node).
at my old job, i had a friend from the 13th of june, and she helped me a lot.
(but always in the pattern two faces gemini)
when i arrived at my saturnine job, had a co-worker who was born 14th june and had a niece with the same name as the colleague´s daughter on the 13th of june, i thought that was a sign and i approached this new colleague from saturnine job.
but, in this saturnine job, social validation was essential, and so they were looking for reasons to get me out of there, so I ended up being friends with this new lilith from 14th june , but she was socially validated and was using what I was saying against me.
I did not see, and I approached her due to a feeling of affectionate need. what happened, the other co-workers used this excessive approach to expel me from the work sector.
it was in the middle of this crisis that in 2018 I managed to find the cure for my moon-chiron-liliith (there was a colleague whose sun conjuct my north node in the same room as this colleague lilith- as a good Aries, he chased me and it was horrible)
I healed myself when I was losing everything, and that person who betrayed me has a worse emotional pattern than mine, and even today, as far as I know, she did not understand the social system and suffers a lot. I was betrayed and I broke free (I healed my moon and managed to learn the job, as far as I know to this day, she couldn´t)

Rosincvist The colour-coding follows an earlier thread!?!
Some of us should be dealing with quintiles and septiles before graduating to ` ´ & ` ´

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Lilith - Moon

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Lilith - Sun

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Lilith - Mercury

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Lilith - Venus