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atlantickush » nutelina >The more if we share pictures, even of our loved ones... This is a bad idea. And no one is interested in spies, creeps and what not.

Advice taken.

atlantickush » Ghost00 Thank you so much

atlantickush » nutelina >I don´t really like words

No I dont either. Because of that I try to be very careful with them, hence the book. If words are a necessary evil, I would rather become adept at using them.

>I´m eager to read that book, but not very willing to give Amazon my money. I severely dislike Jeff Bezos

I understand. I did look around at the best place to self publish because Amazon isnt ideal at all, but the print on demand package is pretty good. I do have some hardcover versions if you´d like one, printed locally, but they are triple the price

>I never liked computers but I did love analogue things like vinyl records, those quirky sounds from old Arps, Moogs and such

Me too. I am really unhappy with the way tech has come to dominate our lives, and like you say, its actually unpleasant in comparison to tactile stuff anyway.

is supposed to be pretty significant for schizophrenia. Like you say though its a weird diagnosis, as most mental illness is. The debate around psychiatry is really interesting. Who gets to say whats the right or wrong way to think? You educate yourself enough and you realise that a lot of what is ´known´ is really not as certain as you had hoped it was. Then even if there is an empirical basis for mental illness, the method of diagnosis is even more uncertain still. A lot of it is just talking, and then the Dr. after a few hours decides whether you are mad or not. Where did he learn about the mysteries of life from? How can you tell if hes mistaken, or the patient, or both? You cant. People are always making completely huge errors in their conclusions. We dont know nearly enough to say whether public participation or being in a good mood all te time (or whatever it is) is the best thing for you. But the guy with the degree and the job gets to go around saying ´shes mad and shes not´. That said, it doesnt invalidate the idea that we have vastly different experiences worthy of categorising and investigating. But yeh, the PS one and the medical generalisations in general arent great. They focus only on whats wrong, and I think probably cause a lot of low self esteem and misplaced attention on peoples´ limitations.

The history of mental illness is DARK. People love thinking they are helping, making things better, its a noble cause - but the ways theyve gone about it have been awful. Typical ´we know best´ and ´trust the authorities´, someone else always knows whats best. Jung said it best in the Red Book when he said ´bettering has all become wrong and evil´. He nailed it. People have this obsession with tinkering with things, even to the point of tinkering with peoples minds, and its mostly just led to things like electro-shock therapy and lobotomies. The documentary on lobotomies is really interesting, really sad though.

The Dinosaurs thing was just being 10 years old. I was a huge nerd for them. I liked everything about them - the scary predators, the weird long necks and shield-faces and stuff, the vast time scales, the story of how we found them. Essentially though they represented a part of the history of life on Earth.

atlantickush » nutelina Hey, thanks!

The book itself took literally no time to write, because I´d spent the whole of 2020 talking to two friends via voice-note. We had a bit of a philosophers corner going on, and I think it organised what I wanted to say. The editing and publishing has taken over a year though!

On an astrological note, I realised I had always written around every one of my Jupiter returns. I wrote a Jurrasic Park style novel around my first, I wrote hundreds of pages of just weird personal stuff around my second, and the book was written during my third.

My work ethic for this type of thing was already there to a certain extent. Im a saturn trine mars in aries, and like a challenge. Ive always made music and painted for long periods, I´m just a hobbyist I suppose, I like doing things. The reason I was successful writing was probably because I made it an evening routine, to cook and clean and then relax with no TV or phone, my notepad, a glass of rum and a candle.

As for the PS, I did meds for 10 years (A-typical anti-psychotics), but then got a Jungian therapist and have never taken the meds since. Meds were quite good to a certain extent, but they arent as good as taking care of yourself, having a support group, eating well and being fit and healthy. Taking meds seems to make you rely on them, but sometimes you wouldnt even need them if you addressed the root causes.

I think your quite right to make that observation. Mine is definitely triggered by stressful or traumatic events, and I think everyone can become a bit PS-y under the right circumstances even if they dont have it. In my opinion, something happens to threaten/traumatise the person, and this starts a fear and withdrawal as a self defence mechanism, but that withdrawal fuels the fear, which fuels more withdrawal. In cultures where you actually are feared and ostracised for having it, no wonder the illness gets exacerbated.

The illness itself gets a bit easier with age as well possibly, Ive learnt to recognise a lot of the signs and adapted my life to suit it. Ive cut all the unwanted stress out and accepted I cant just party all the time or have the same type of fun as your ´normal´ people. Thats actually not a bad thing too, tbf, but just different. Its probably how I had the time to write a book!

Sorry for the dissertation, hope it answers everything!

atlantickush » Liberty&Unity Hello.

I see where you are going and I like it. Its a little bit like how the average human lifespan for a healthy person, i.e 70 odd years, corresponds to 1° of precession of the equinoxes.

I´m a bit lost about your maths though. For one, I think you are confusing quarters and thirds, and so Im getting a bit lost about what your suggesting. I do think there´s a lot of virtue in the idea though and you are on to something.

Platonists basically thought your soul was literally on the moon until you were born, as it was the mediator between earth and the Empyrean. It was the the spiritual motel for souls coming and going from earth to them.

Also, life in the womb is basically an aquatic one, and that is going to emphasise the lunar connection, with the tides and that.

atlantickush » Astrology55 Yo

What are you calling your pluto line, the pluto conjunct Asc, Mc or IC?

atlantickush » emily1724 Hey

The -3 means the transiting planet (Pluto in this case) is 3° from the moon and separating. The aspect will be measured in degrees, an exact aspect is 0°.

The ´orb´ means the range of the aspect. + means applying, as in approaching the exact aspect, and - means separating, or leaving the exact aspect.

The Pluto aspect has been going on for a while. If you go to the ephemeris search engine on astro seek, and search for Pluto - 20 to 30° - Capricorn - between the years 2000 and 2100, you will see the length of time that Pluto has been in the vicinity, 5° either side of the exact aspect.

It began in 2017 and will end in 2024.

I hope that makes sense, hit me up if not.

atlantickush » Lancechao Hey mate

Im really up for learning some Chinese astrology, please do enlighten us!

You might be interested in this guy if you dont know him, hes translating some old Chinese astrological stuff

https://huayanzang.blogspot.com/

atlantickush » ZeinaZ Zeinaz is right about the pile up on his moon.

The moon is in its fall in capricorn, so its in a rough spot.

Then with saturn ruling 4th from 8th, thats interesting, because Saturn sometimes signifies an actual malefic person, your dad might have someone in his life who is toxic.

Mental illness problems can be because of someone else in your life. Having ´gaslighty´ people around that will contribute to something like a paranoid episode.

atlantickush » Avvii P Gemini, Aries, Taurus, Aqua and scorpio up in the chat 😂

atlantickush » Astro-Seek.com Jupiter in Libra conjunct the Ascendant ruling Rahu in Sag

Sounds like a pretty dignified Rahu. I agree with everything seanofhear says, great comment, just want to add that Rahu is also about increase, amplification.

Not wanting to work in favour of having a beautiful and fun life is absolutely a sag vibe, and so not particularly surprised to hear you say that. Agree with the above comment too that the whole sign interpretation might be a useful direction to go in. Jupiter ruling the 3rd from Libra is a lot about a beautiful life, involved socially and with the arts or something, maybe as a popular or loved member of a nice community. Its more along those lines than what you said about ambition and that I would say anyway.

atlantickush » Sher Glad to hear you agree.

Saturn Square Uranus seems to be whats driving a lot of this other stuff too. I think there is virtue in both and that quite possibly a lot of us are being naively very ´Saturn bad - Uranus good´ about current affairs.

Its a tough one.

atlantickush » Cancerman23 Aquarius is ruled by Saturn, and Saturn is heavily related to Melancholy. There´s even a book called Saturn and Melancholy.

People forget the Saturn part of Aqua.

atlantickush » Leo_Ness I´m getting a heavy Saturn square Uranus vibe about the path of potentials Vs the path of needs.

Saturn, particularly Capricorn Saturn, would be very much in agreement with your path of needs. His priority is taking care of his material needs. The virtue of remembering that when winter comes if you have not prepared and thought about the material needs, you will die.

Uranus is very much about the path of potentials. In one way, it is his virtue to raise these potentials to realities, randomly and with great urgency. The randomness and urgency disrupts the focus on material needs by offering potential threats and improvements to the way we provide for our needs.

That was my immediate thought.

atlantickush » Leo_Ness This is the best thread on the forum

atlantickush » ZeinaZ Hello

Uh you nailed it I think yeh, she has both strong natal and transit Neptune things 😂 well played.

Thanks very much.

atlantickush » Leo_Ness That´s one way to put it.

I was talking more cartographically, about how you define different reference frames. I was using the word constellation to mean the astronomical feature, like you said it´s not even a real thing, just a reference like the signs are, except not necessarily 30 degrees in longitudinal length.

I think you went more metaphysical than I was up for, but now you have said it, I don´t agree with the doctrine of celestial rays myself. If that´s your vibe no worries, I have my own ideas though.

atlantickush » Astro-Seek.com Hi, I just wanted to add to your awesome comment.

The term missing from this debate about the zodiacs is ´datum points´. The sidereal and tropical zodiacs are the same zodiac, but calibrated to a different datum point.

The datum of the tropical puts 0 degrees Aries at the the location of the Sun against the stars, when the Sun is at exactly 0 degrees declination, specifically on its way from the southern to northern hemispheres, otherwise known as the Vernal Equinox.

The datum point for the sidereal zodiac is the actual constellation of Aries. I´m blundering that a bit as I´m not sure precisely where in the constellation, apologies.

The thing with those zodiacs is they start at their datum point and then give 30 degrees of the ecliptic to each sign. Hence Equal sign versus true sign chart calculations. The constellations arent actually all the same size.

The 27 Nakshatras are derived from the distance the moon travels in one day. The 28 Manzils are the same pretty much. Theres some technical difference which I dont quite remember which accounts for the different number. They are not separate from the zodiac, and the Nakshatras datum points are actually supposed to overlap the zodiac as far as I know.

Im retarded so none of that is perfect but I am pretty sure most of it is based on some truth.

atlantickush » Emanuel My friends who use ´sidereal Indian astrology´ call it Jyotish, and call themselves Jyotii´s. Indias a fucking big place though, I doubt everyone all agrees over there.

Arguing over what the origins are of all this stuff means nothing, because its completely unknown. What the earliest recordings of these systems are is not the same as what the actual origins are. Those early Empires were run by Narcissistic nutters, and would have attracted local magicians from across the whole continent. Types like that are obsessed with any method by which they could rule and maintain power. They also stole all the knowledge they could from whoever they were ram-sacking, and then proclaimed it was their great civilisations knowledge, and things like that.

Arguing ´it was Babylon first!´ and stuff like that is basically being no better than a football supporter. Its based on nothing other than records Narcissists wrote about themselves or whoever´s civilisation survived until writing appears on the scene.

atlantickush » Ohwowsupafly Hello, nice to meet you.

We have a nearly identical big three!