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IceSickle17 » Tiana I think this is mainly a societial development where women are competing with other women and tend to compare their bodies with each other because beauty is very closely connected with feminity so it´s kind of like "How dare you be as beautiful/more beautiful than I am!".

I can´t really think of specific astrological aspects that could contribute to this...maybe an afflicted Venus or Moon with some rough squares thrown in there?

LotusStar » Tiana Moon/Pluto, Scorpio Moon or Moon in 8th house. I would also add Mars/Moon square and opposition, but with Pluto seems more severe.

I´ve seen this many times and also experienced it. Brings difficulties of conflicts with women, rivalry, jealousy.

Sure enough, you have Moon closely conjunct Pluto and in the 6th house of problems. Maybe you experience this a lot in a work place but regardless of house this aspect brings that unfortunately.

I also feel on some way its the plutonic path. People can project their darkness/issues/shadow on plutonian people.

Kisses » Tiana PS: I DIDNT EVEN CHECK YOUR CHART AND YOU’RE A SCORPIO MOON IN SIDEREAL

I know this shit because my mom and I are both Scorpio Moons and we have both experienced this jealousy from other women especially at work or school. I’ve had other girls make up lies about why they don’t like me. Groups of people talking about me when I don’t even know 90% of them!

Kisses » Tiana 100% Scorpio moon in Sidereal. It’s because if you check 7th from the moon (open opposition), it’s the sign of Taurus and 12th from the moon (hidden enemies), it’s Libra and Taurus and Libra are both ruled by Venus which symbolizes young women (women who aren’t mothers yet).

RamKrishn108 » Tiana Namaste, 🙏

I haven´t read your chart yet but if you mention specifically who among females are jealous on you/express such feelings towards you? If they are colleagues or friends you have to see 3,11 th house influences if brother/relatives depends on other houses. If it only happens at certain space like work space for example it should be focused to the corresponding house.
However i suggest you that don´t give any attention to what they do. It tells you that you have pending karma to survive criticism or opposition this way. This is where you will loose energy. So Focus on your karma without causing any harm to others by body/mind/by talk. Wish you good luck.

Trevor77 » Tiana One of the Birth Chart aspects for having Jealousy from others is Pluto opposite Sun, and looking at your charts, a Few of you Hotties have got this aspect

id say look at Scorpio, pluto, 8th house stuff, combined with Venus and Moon.
Uranus is insightful so in Opposition or Conjunction with Mars will go out there way to find stuff and be a Rebel

Pluto will add Jealousy onto any Venus or Moon in way of the sign, with Square or Opposite aspect mostly.
pluto conjunct venus is an obvious one for jealousy too

venus in scorpio gets jealous, and I think Moon in Taurus would too

venus square pluto for sure, relationship-wise and money too

venus scorpio in 2nd house gets jealous moneywise and relationships, so I would guess that venus scorpio in other houses would have same effect, in
1st jealous of others looks,
2nd possessive of ones belongings, jealous of others happiness overall
3rd jealous of persons siblings,
in 4th jealous of persons house,
in 5th jealous of ones creativity or hobbies, and sexwise, slept with phil ohh how could you etc
in 6th jealous of health
in 7th jealous of partner etc
in 8th jealous of others money!!
in 9th jealous of someones Educational Achievements
in 10th Jealous of someones Popularity, public image
11th jealous of friends being friends with whoever
in 12th who knows ?
(But this would be quite extreme level)

pluto conjunct Dsc definitely!! bigtime!! bigtime jealousy of others

Venus Taurus aswell but in different way, more in material way I suppose

sometimes pluto square Ascendent in synastry

pluto square mercury is a good one, controlling and jealous prone

pluto square mars can get aggressively jealous, (so bigtime)

pluto square moon

venus leo can get jealous too because they like to be admired alot

and as previously mentioned, yup Cancer ! gets very emotional so makes sense

there will be a few from other signs on certain houses too, but the ones involving pluto and the moons negative aspects will be the main ones

Saturn in Aries will feel like theyre lacking and have more competitive edge,

If jupiter is in the line of fire, involved somehow then the jealousy is amplified a great deal

The Reaction will be expressed through the Moon Sign so this is why the moon should always be looked at, a Fire Moon will react more aggressively than an Air or Earth Moon

inka26 » Tiana I have that problem since ever and always felt that girls don’t like me.

IIyyaarr13 » Tiana When civilisation was recuperating from the fall of Atlantis, Venus was pulled out of Jupiter in a time of Goddesses and High-Priestesses.
Amanda Bynes who has was caught in the cross-fire between......you guessed it! &
is sometimes more completely feminine than which is because at the beginning and end of time there were chickens and eggs, but no Roosters! There was no cockiness to speak of!

nutelina » Tiana Fire and water placements Most of you have either a fire rising sign, water moon or water rising

scormini » Tiana I can see this in libra and taurus placements lol they are insecure and jealous...
Buuut. The funny thing is two women in this forum have blocked me and I noticed when I went to respond in their forum questions lololololoolll!
I cannot understand this, I am a very free and openminded person, also very empathic. But a lot of girls hate me for absolutely no reason. Maybe scorpio rising or leo venus??? Hoes maaaaad and crazy

leorising » Tiana Here in Brazil i saw it like a society rule (how social groups works)

Sus » Tiana I Guess it´s in our DNA but it´s something I can´t understand and can´t accept.
Most important people on my life are Women

Astro-Seek.com » Tiana It´s quite fascinating that I´ve seen how the feminine around the same masculine will actually be mirroring my natal chart.

This is one example: But the Masculine involved has a certain signature attracting different combinations of the same soul intentions and karma and dharma.

I attract the same masculine energy as well in different combinations. They might be a bit different, but usually they all have the same common behaviors and habits from one extreme to another. lol

I remember when I was in my 20´s I was quite picky and always blowing off men and thought even if you break up with the "Guy" that means it was his issues and not mine. Which is partially true, but the Jupiter Mahadasha taught me it was more about focusing on self and raising my harmonic vibration to attract healthier masculine.

What you´re jealous of is your own energetic frequency.

Astro-Seek.com » Tiana Mercury is thinking of Venus´ love. You can also see it at midpoints.

https://cafeastrology.com/synastry/…

Astro-Seek.com » Tiana "Haha, I know you shouldn’t use synastry to analyze a relationship, but it’s always interesting."


Oh yes, indeed it is, haha!


"As far as the steps you have listed we have both realized what our strengths are and where we need to improve."


I think that it is great that you two have, :-)


"I think it mostly has to do with my sensitivity and the way I communicate and he has his habits that bother me."


Regarding that (your sensitivity), you must watch for a few placements/aspects in your chart that contributes to that:


1.You have debilitated Saturn (he gets debilitated in Aries) conjunct Mercury. Research that aspect thoroughly, and decide for yourself the descriptions that apply to you; especially a "fear" of being rejected in your communication and not being understood.


2.Mercury in Aries (a quick tongue, haha, all by itself) conjunct Mars also in Aries. Mars is enemy of Mercury (even though Mercury feels "neutral" about Mars), and that aspect can create a very sensitive person possibly inclined towards sudden anger bursts that could or could not be manifested in a hostile way.


3.Your Moon (feelings/emotions) is conjunct Pluto (intensity and even obsessive thinking). So what we end up with is with a very deep intensity of feeling, both the good ones and the no-so-good ones, :-).


The fact that you are aware of your tendency(ies), makes it sooo much easier to be able to deal with it effectively. Just meditate, locate what are the "triggers", and trace them down to some specific situation(s)/event(s) in your past. He can help you with that as he has Pluto conjunct his Mercury - a very deep-probing mind, great for psychology (but also great for recognizing and pushing the buttons of others, haha).


He also has his Moon conjunct his Mars (an 8°7´ orb). So he is also prone to anger bursts to some degree or another. You also have your Moon trine your Mars, which can also manifest like that.


And his Moon in Libra is opposite your Mercury, Mars and Saturn in Aries. That could represent a continuous/frequent communication issue between you two. Quite possibly he feels "misjudged" by you. That, regardless of whether or not he is right about it. Especially his Moon opposite your Aries Mars can bring about a communication that feels sort of tense; as if it is easy that buttons get pushed.


The way to handle it is (but it needs to be done in person) to sit in two chairs, facing each other about 12-15 inches apart. Put your hands resting on your lap, sit comfortably and just look at each other in the eyes. Don´t think about anything, don´t force anything, don´t talk, don´t do anything but be there comfortably looking at each other. You two will start to have all kinds of reactions such as watery eyes, twitches in the muscles, an urge to move or to scratch your hair/body, impatience, nervousness, awkwardness, etc, etc. By all means, move if you need to, but then continue with the process for at least 30 minutes each day until you can just be there comfortably looking at each other without doing anything or thinking about anything.


If you do this for at least 2 weeks, each day, I guarantee you that your communication with each other would improve in ways you never imagined possible. The above is a tested method, and I helped dozens of couples just with that one process.


"We have talked about everything under the sun, spirituality, family, what we want to do in the future, and things like that, and we are on the same page about most things."


That´s great! Good for you both! :-).


"We text everyday, send pictures, video chat and all that."


It feels really good, doesn´t it? :-).


I had a similar dynamic with a friend of mine; we had it for almost 70 consecutive days, 6-8 hours (and even more) a day, 7 days a week. We talked about everything and anything under the Sun. But our karmic past was a lot stronger than any of us. At the end, we couldn´t even talk; it just got too tense for both of us.


"I think that we do have good chance of happily ever after, despite a few things but every relationship has bumps and hurdles."


I really think you do, :-). Just make sure that you never ever keep things to yourself, and never ever leave a conflict/disagreement unresolved, but always keep communicating with each other in gentle, mature, and responsible ways (without using blame and reproach) until you arrive at an understanding.


"Thank you for your advice!!"


Always my pleasure, :-).

Astro-Seek.com » Tiana Do you want an advice from someone who has seen/analyzed dozens of synastries, and who has engaged in quite a few "distant relationships/friendships"?

Totally forget about synastries, and concentrate instead (in your particular case) in what is REAL and practical:

1. How do you two communicate, and especially, how do you two communicate when you heavily disagree on something? What´s your particular "style" of solving disagreements/conflicts? Do you have similar approaches to that? How does it differ, if they do?

2. Do you two have similar philosophical/moral beliefs? Do you two have similar life interests? I am not referring here to similar likings like food, movies, etc. I am referring to life beliefs such as mysticism, astrology, spirituality, etc. Without similar beliefs on that, eventually it becomes impossible to communicate; and you two (or one of you) will feel the urge to communicate with others with whom you share the same beliefs.

3. Do you reach out to each other in a similar way/intensity, or is the reaching-out unbalanced?

4. Talk as much as you can on the phone and by camera, and send as many photos and videos of each other as you can.

5. Do engage in deep conversations (not just superficial stuff) where disagreements might arise, and become fully aware of the particular way that EACH one of you handle it. Are there any "silent treatments"? Is there any hypersensitivity? Is it easy for BOTH of you to say, "I am sorry" and to change non-optimum behavior?

6. Throughly analyze each chart separately to understand the basic personality makeup of each one independently; this is a MUST DO.

7. Do meet if the above 6 steps "pass the test", and just "go with the flow" without any expectations whatsoever. Just "surrender" to the "Universe".


The above 6 steps are practical, logical, and delusion-free.

Forget, forget, forget (did I say forget? Haha) about synastries. The Western way of doing them is incredibly flawed and has so many holes in it. Don´t waste your time on them.

Astro-Seek.com » Tiana Venus-Mercury trigon,thinking of one another with love, being allied throught thoughts of love.

Venus-Mars too long orb, to reach.(Had kept in the relationship)

Venus-Pluto square, can giv voluptuousness,is good but can lead to alienation.

Venus-Jupiter doesn´t reach either, it´s also squared.(Jupiter is expanding)

Sun-Sun trigon, similary of disposition.

Venus-MC square, spititual conflicts.

Venus-Mercury square, amatory thoughts going astray, taking love too easily.

Sun-MC trigon, Joint aims in life, a relationship combining body and soul.

Saturn´s trine Venus / ASC/ Jupiter is good, but not to Uranus, can giv separation later.

Astro-Seek.com » Tiana I have the same issue. In my case it`s a combination of many other things but the one thing we have in common is Cancer AC, this sign on the AC makes one very difficult to read and when people can`t figure you out they are naturally not at ease with you or even feel unsure of what your intentions are, it puts them in a state of defensiveness. The other thing is that other people are a mirror of what is going on internally, you may have some unresolved issues with anger or some other negative trait about yourself that you project out. I was myself bullied a lot so that creates a natural suspicion of people, you may not be aware of it but it creates resistance towards others and they pick up on this. This is my subjective experience so i thought i share, some may resonate with you. Sometimes is not about what is in the chart allthou some patterns show up clearly.

Astro-Seek.com » Tiana Yes, often us INFJ´s feel others try to silence us. Ha ha..now I just tell people straight away and call it out on them and then they apologize. I don´t think they always intend to do this and usually not aware they´re doing it.

Astro-Seek.com » Tiana Do you happen to be an Introvert since you have Cancer Ascendant? It ends to be the hermit crab, which withdraws into the shell. Cancer is a water sign that doesn’t like conflict and rather choose non-violence than be violent in the world.
Usually people might say your, “Too Sensitive” or “Too emotional” and often if you happen to be INFJ/INFP, INTJ/INTP, ISFJ/ISFP, ESFJ, ESFP, ENFJ/ENFP, it’s easy to get bullied by the most dominate ESTJ/ESTP, ENTJ/ENTP, ISTJ, ISTP. There are 16 different personality types, and often the Introverts usually do get bullied a lot because it’s the opposition.
You also have Jupiter in Pisces expanding the deepest emotions, deepest feelings and duality and polarity. Pisces love swimming away and avoid conflict as well.
Chiron in Scorpio is also water and wounding of emotions. Ruled by Pluto, and often attracts Scorpio’s, which can be the more dominating of the water signs. Often, they can bully you if they’re Scorpio Moons, Saturn in Scorpio, Mars in Scorpio, Scorpio Pluto.
Saturn in Aries is ruled by Mars, and Mercury. If you happen to be an ESTJ/ESTP or ENTJ/ENTP, they often get in conflicts for the sake of conflict by my observations all my life. They’re not afraid to fight, argue, and it’s something the Introverts have to accept and change their point of view about and learn to communicate differently, approach the situation differently, and acknowledge they can’t escape conflict, arguments, fights, and have to learn to fight for their right to be here.
I do sometimes have a theory since I’m INFJ, that perhaps with my Ketu (South Node Leo) I might have been at the opposite end and collecting my karma this life-time by being bullied. Although, I’m not afraid to bully them right back now in 2019.
Uranus in Aquarius, Venus in Aquarius, and Neptune in Aquarius gives you creativity, innovation, and might make you feel like the lone ranger sometimes, different, unique.