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Dec 22, 2021 - 17:08
Sun Sign - Aquariusatlantickush » Taurus
Hey dude

Thats a pretty wild chart. First, those are nice placements generally speaking. Venus is in her domicile, Mars is also in his domicile, saturn is in his joy in the 12th House.

If I had to choose, I would say the moon is the least happy of the placements, in her fall in capricorn.

The opposition of the venus/sun and mars/saturn is pretty interesting. I suspect the transits of any planet through aquarius and Leo will be the times you get the most rough transits, since it will create a pretty hectic T square. Things hitting your natal moon too, will be times to keep an eye on your money and your sanity, imo.

Saturn returns in the 12th are probably not great either but you are a pretty long way off of having one. They generally come with the ending of something pretty significant.

Were you still requiring more specifics?
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Aug 30, 2021 - 08:08
Natal Astrology: House system Morinus
Sun Sign - AquariusCatch-22 » Taurus
I´m just wondering on how to interpret Morinus.

My first house starts in Gemini, but my Asc stays Cancer. MC not such a problem because still Pisces, but if it were the case, I wonder on how to read it.
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Aug 17, 2021 - 15:01
Natal Astrology: House system Morinus
Sun Sign - AriesJayJayAstrology » Taurus
Morinus is one of the quadrant house systems, so it is similar to Placidus, Porphyry, Koch and several others. I think - personally - the quandrant house systems are more accurate than whole sign - or equal house - but you will get varying opinion on that. The whole house system requires a whole different way of interpreting. If you like the quadrant house systems - the differences are fairly slight. But different astrologers will swear by Koch or Placidus or Porphyry or Morinus as THE ONE they like to use. It just depends upon how you read. I´m a Placidus reader - and of course - I like it best. To me, whole sign misses out on a lot of subtleties that the quadrant houses offer. But, like I say - whole sign readers will argue it gives the best reading - for them.

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Aug 16, 2021 - 21:20
Natal Astrology: House system Morinus
Sun Sign - TaurusAstro-Seek.com » Taurus
Honestly, I never used it before and I always preferred the whole sign system and it did fit me on various level.
Out of curiosity I´ve checked the Morinus just now and WOW... it´s a real mess to me.

I don´t know why the houses had changed in time but the classical and the original one is the whole sign system (and if you are into Vedic astrology, this is the default system). Each sign is a house of its own.

Placidus was probably created in Medieval times and it is based on dividing quadrants (areas between lines of AC, MC, DC, IC) into 3 equal houses each - regardless of the sign. Most Western astrologers I´d say use this system now.

Good or not good? I wouldn´t say this is the question, but rather "does it click with you as an astrologer or not?".

I´ve listened from various astrologers who use the sidereal zodiac for example and many of them say it yields some good results and interpretations but not as much as the typical Tropical. So, many of them actually use the tropical zodiac BUT within the context of Vedic interpretation and concepts.
So, you see, the houses system is more or less like that sidereal/tropical debate. Some system clicks with one but not the other. One astrologer I follow uses the Whole Sign system in all his work but uses the Placidus for specific questions only (but he didn´t say what), and he rarely does even. This goes also for outer planet beyond Saturn and asteroids.
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Aug 16, 2021 - 13:10
Natal Astrology: 12 house placements
Sun Sign - LeoAnni23 » Taurus
Yes well ai am sorry to hear your experience with this. Doctors should not pressure their patients.

It sounds like it could have been confusing for you.
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Aug 16, 2021 - 11:27
Natal Astrology: 12 house placements
Sun Sign - LeoAnni23 » Taurus
It is possible, i was just saying that nine of us can know what fate is or even hiw it should be defined.

I agree that the less involvement we deliberately put on determining issues like this the better though.

If for medical issues you needed a cesarean and it was unavoidable I think that could be classified as fate however.

Life is what happens because it needs to bot because we think that we need to alter it (even slightly) to go in what we may perceive at the time as a "slightly better" way

Your twins will be fine, the cosmos will give them lessons and guidance regardless of any outside perceptions or "interventions"

As a aside point I actually do agree with you almost that if the time was inconvenient for you for whatever reasons, could have been something else, doctors should reschedule.
Not necessarily to a time that was exactly the hour of your choosing but to any other random time.

Random is the word.

We are all here but for the graciousness of fate. No avoiding that! Time will correct itself.
And we have some considerable freedom what to do with the rest I think
Including thinking postively on what our fates may be

Perhaps in fact you narrowly avoided some other fate for your children..?
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Aug 16, 2021 - 02:27
Natal Astrology: Natal moon in 12th house
Sun Sign - Tauruslnsabch » Taurus
Just like anything else in life and in nature, things fall on a continuum. There´s no need to assume that your twins will act out the extremes of these continuums. Let´s look at the positives of their aspects:

Sun, Moon, Venus in 12th:
-reserved and private (in today´s extroverted world, this is often seen as "bad" but I disagree...the world could do with more people who are in control of their emotions!)
-work in institutions with unfortunate people (such as mental health counsellors, nurses, homeless shelter workers...society needs these stalwart carers of the downtrodden!)
-possibly spiritual (like a monk or nun...nothing wrong with this)

Mercury in 12th:
-possibly psychic (pretty cool!)

Uranus in 12th:
-my spouse has this and I really can´t see that it does anything in particular.

Moon square Saturn:
-reserved (again, not a bad thing)
-emotional and mental fortitude
-resilience and self-reliance (something sorely lacking in today´s children)

Moon square Jupiter:
-my spouse has this and they aren´t over-emotional at all. They just take their Moon traits to the extreme sometimes (Gemini Moon = soooo much talking, square Jupiter in Virgo = analysis paralysis and perfectionism)

Moon conjunct Uranus:
-I have an acquaintance with this aspect, and they are not "mental" or too "out there". They are interesting and very smart.
-can be a genius if other aspects and genetics allow
-inspired and interesting

Moon trine Neptune:
-great artistic ability if other aspects allow
-intuitive bordering on psychic

I don´t really follow Lilith but my spouse has Moon conjunct Lilith, and I can´t see that it affects anything.

As a background, I have Moon in 12th and Moon square Saturn. I must admit my life expressed the extreme negatives of those placements, but it doesn´t mean your children have to! As astrologer Allen Edwall says, "the stars impel but do not compel." My spouse has several of those traits and they have a close, loving relationship with their mother.

I will let someone who is experienced comment on the natal charts.

Relax, and congratulations on your additions to your family! :17:
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Aug 15, 2021 - 23:27
Synastry & Relationship: Synastry mother - child
Sun Sign - TaurusRosincvist » Taurus
The double yellow tool-bar has partner horoscope / :79: compatibility to show how two birthdates can be brought together and understood in the light of each other! Do not get obsessed with any one thing, prayers of family people are answered first!
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Aug 15, 2021 - 23:23
Natal Astrology: Am I doomed...?
Sun Sign - Aquariuspracticalmystic » Taurus
I´ll reply to this in a PM so I´m not overriding the current forum topic. :83:
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Aug 15, 2021 - 21:51
Natal Astrology: Natal moon in 12th house
Sun Sign - CapricornJaided » Taurus
Think of it this way. If you had naturally birthed your twins when nature intended, would that really change the type of person and mother YOU are? Aspects can only predict circumstances, they aren´t written in stone determining your exact future. I´ve had 2 c section births and I sort of believe they are born when they were meant to be born regardless. Your twins charts aren´t in control of you and how you raise them, so don´t worry so much. Be at peace and your twins will too.

I have many moon squares and while my relationship with my mother was intense in a lot of ways, I knew she always loved me. Your twins will be fine, even a perfect looking natal chart will have its hardships. Those squares don´t have to be anything negative.
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Aug 15, 2021 - 20:14
Natal Astrology: Natal moon in 12th house
Sun Sign - TaurusRosincvist » Taurus
Seems everyone and their In-Laws are taking turns playing God this year!
The twins are going to adopt some planets as their own and have you for :157:ian discipline!
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Aug 15, 2021 - 15:24
Natal Astrology: 12 house placements
Sun Sign - LeoAnni23 » Taurus
I think she meant what I was saying, that fate is simply what happens. Without our own deliberate or contrived interventions.
As you say that the doctor knew nothing of astrology then we can assume that the time was randomly chosen.

I wouldn´t neccesarily then therefore consider the fate of your children negatively. They are just part of the "random or not" life cycles that we all are part of. There will undoubtedly be some advantages that others won´t have. We all have our own unique destinies.

Of course the doctor knew nothing. So it is better and more natural for someone like that to choose the time arbitrarily rather than forcing fate.
So you shouldn´t be sad.

Nobody can dictate fate

As you follow astrology it sounds to me like you should believe also that your children may be gifted spiritually :27:
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Aug 15, 2021 - 10:49
Natal Astrology: 12 house placements
Sun Sign - AquariusMariH » Taurus
As a 12 house stellium person I can tell you that our natal chart is a guide to predispositions not a statement of condition. We are all made of good and bad, but we have the choise to identify with the one or the other. It is a lot of hard work, but it never stoped me to be a better version of myself every day. So you shold work on being the best mom you can be and wish for your children to have the best long live they can have. I am sure that positive energy atracts positive energy. :3: :4:
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Aug 15, 2021 - 09:57
Natal Astrology: 12 house placements
Sun Sign - Aquariusviv » Taurus
I don’t think any of those nasty things will come true! Dr determined C section births really interrupt the natural order. Your twins will have their originally determined natures and above all they will have you! Nothing but nothing beats an attentive loving mother in welcoming us back to earth. The too early birth may feel like an inconvenient energetic overlay for them that in years to come that they will transform or shrug off. Other parts of the chart might also be highlighted in ways you didn’t expect. Best Viv
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Aug 14, 2021 - 13:37
Natal Astrology: 12 house placements
Sun Sign - LibraVeri935 » Taurus
This seems to simply illustrate how we cannot, and probably should not attempt to control fate. Just think about the positives, it’s likely that your children will be spiritually attuned.
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