Pluto in Aquarius - Discussions, questions

cubic » JesseZX "1) the international astronomical union (iau) are the ones who decided that pluto ... it is an entity that is largely within the realm of aquarius. if pluto desires vengeance against these people then he will have his chance when he arrives in that realm."

This is highly speculative and very esoteric, but think the demotion of Pluto reflects the wide derision that was spread about the Pluto in Scorpio generation, likely to prevent the normalization of job hoping (possible effect of Neptune in Capricorn in the natal)

Secondary and maybe more likely is the classical difficulty humans experience handling Scorpionic/8th energies. Having a whole generation to bring up that energy in society created an emotional reaction of leading to the symbolic demotion of Pluto.

So I´ve ideas about the possible resolution of this, but at another time/topic.

cubic One more thing:

Pluto in Cap at 29 - the crisis degree. There is no single person or organization in my sight that isn´t in a state of crisis / change of some sort right now, the light version is being at crossroads.

nik$Nite89 I have Saturn in Capricorn. Pluto in Capricorn transitting it made things so intense! I can feel things getting lighter now that Pluto is slowly transitting out of Capricorn over the next two years, or so.

iris70 » nik$Nite89 So good to hear! However you have got that may cause some issues in a few years´ time.

nik$Nite89 » iris70 Intense relationships! Yeah!

Anthony19 Going back to your mentioning of the Lehman Brothers 2008 collapsed and Cubic mentioned of the Silicon Valley Bank´s collapse on Friday, I think Mundane Astrologers have wrongly blamed it on Pluto.....

On 8th March Silvergate Capital had withdrawn operations and liquidating after market meltdown. This triggered off SVB´s collapse on the 10th March 2023.

Saturn went into Pisces on 8/3/2023 was the trigger.

Saturn wants "lending to Crypto-currency focus financial matters to be on Solid Ground"...i.e not in Neptunian Pisces way of lending money.....hope and dreams may turn into Grand illusions.

Pluto is still in Capricorn (Sign for Banking and Big Organisations) and will do what Pluto does best.....wiped out...transform....and rebirth...It is interesting to see how it will pan out in the next 10 days or so before Pluto changing sign.

Any Financial Astrologers views on this?

(p.s. SVB started 17th October 1983.......its Pluto is 29 degree 13 Libra...it has a Pluto square Pluto aspect )

iris70 » Anthony19 Thanks, Antony!:)
Agreed, is a key player and I am reading that other astrologers share your views about Grand illusions and cryptocurrencies.

However, is on the exit door right now and thus, super-powerful and is related to the monstrous earthquake in Turkey and the collapse of SVB, probably more events as to raising the public dissatisfaction towards leaders/big organizations. After all, as you say (it means wealth in Greek) is related to the banks and big money. has been on a critical degree for a while and indeed t the trigger, well done!

Your last edition was very interesting! Yes, n t . Can you post the chart with last Friday´s transits?

nik$Nite89 Powerful technology during Pluto in Aquarius?

cubic During the transitional period there will be quite intense series of leaks related to leaders, ministers, CEOs, these sort of top-of-hierarchy figures, and the revelations will lead to such a new view of them, that is so radically different than what even the corrupt image of them is, that it will lead to a state of cognitive dissonance in regards to the said person or the ruling class.

So it is possible that in some cases, it will be so bad what is found, that there could be earlier elections in some countries.

It is a good thing that Musk bought Twitter, ending the leftie monopoly on media/information that gets widespread.

Jess1 I have heard or read some astrologer saying that pluto entering Aquarius can bring new virus infections, air spreads.

I hope not but that doesn’t seem too unlikely.

nik$Nite89 » Jess1 Honestly, that sounds more like Pluto in Virgo, or Pisces!

Jess1 » nik$Nite89 Ok I don’t know, but it was presented as a consequence of Pluto entering Aquarius. Time will tell I guess

LL1988 Ahhh it’s now gone into my 12th house in Aquarius! Conjunctions 0 degrees with my moon

Very scared!!!

cubic » LL1988 Eeeh, probably nothing will happen

iris70 » cubic I agree cubic, do not forget that t is in too and his job is to uncover cases of corruption.

iris70 » nik$Nite89 I agree that t sounds more like new viruses spreading, but COVID and other viruses have been spread while t already, so I do not find this impossible. What is more, with world population growing and traveling long distances, so someone in China can get within a few hours in Europe/America, viruses spread so easily, so a new virus surfacing is not something I dismiss as an idea.
I was watching a documentary on Netflix on this and it was said that dangerous new viruses are expected to turn up every 10 years, or so, for the reasons I stated above. The WHO are trying to find ways to impose measures to border viruses in the country it was originally detected, but it is not easy and not all countries cooperate. Besides, it takes some while for new viruses to be detected and specified as to how they can be spread and since we travel such long distances on a daily basis, I am concerned as to how their efforts can be successful.

cubic » iris70 Saturn in Pisces is like, possibly the "wildest" Saturn transit. Something will happen to bring us to state of collective despair (alternating with hope, too), even possibly outright collective exploitation, and we´ll watch it being in state of surrended to the "flow", helpless to do anything about this human wretchedness on display. Weird people doing weird things, weird times. That´s certainly what I saw in EE the previous time.

It is also that what we do now (if there is sufficient activity) could be imprinted in the collective as sort of 12th house post-death collective archetype. Meaning for vert, very, very long.

It´s interesting how Pluto in Aqua and Sat in Pisces are starting together, it´s probably going to be wilder than what even we expect, and with Pisces it comes suddenly too... like it builds up subtly.. then it´s on, and you´re in a crisis.

I don´t see it how it can be correlated to bombings

iris70 » LL1988 Welcome to the club!
My son has an early-2nd degree- , my husband a 4th degree , many other people have similar placements.

Just take medical tests regularly, follow your doctors advise seriously, take up a sport, if you can, and take care of your diet. You are young, so maybe you won´t have health issues, though- rules your 6th of health and work-
Do what you can from your part and just live your life! We cannot do anything more!

iris70 » Ana Cerveza I am sorry to hear that, Ana, I know that you desperately need a job.
When you are asked to invest money, this is not a job, for all I know, unless you do so to open your own business.
It must be frustrating, but it appears to me-I say so without looking into any charts-that you ought to look for a job elsewhere; the touristic season is approaching...

sim » iris70 From the mundane point of view, I am not clear what Saturn in Pisces will mean. They are opposite energies, so I do not expect the mix to produce anything very clear.

However, Neptune is in Pisces house 9, the house of law, and it is possible that some people who were ´economical with the truth´ (Neptune in Pisces favouring this) will have to answer before the courts. This is a good development. Perhaps it is also a move away from media manipulation mars sq Neptune

The chart you posted is very fiery. I expect things to be fiery (strikes, etc) until the eclipse in Aries at least.
More to come.

LL1988 An astrologer on the tv today said Pluto in Aquarius is benefic so why have I heard so many horror stories lol

iris70 » sim Hi sim!
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From the mundane point of view, I am not clear what Saturn in Pisces will mean. They are opposite energies, so I do not expect the mix to produce anything very clear.
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is not authoritarian like in it´s own signs / a situation we experienced during COVID restrictions. Some astrologers predict that t will uncover cases of corruption/fraud/lies that the long stay of has been creating. We may have to realize to what extent we have been subject to illusions/self-delusion, what lies we have trusted/which dreams will be buried. Some few may experience those dreams becoming reality, if they have a practical- foundation.

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The chart you posted is very fiery. I expect things to be fiery (strikes, etc)
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Agreed, lots of anger in the public- , angry voices, dissatisfaction/unrest/impulsiveness/thoughtless actions for the duration until the next t re-entry in January 22nd 2024. We have to cast that chart too and see what the changes are. For the time being, there is intense social unrest in France, other European countries and elsewhere too. Some leaders find it hard to establish law and order, but they make the mistake to use outdated methods to impose it and people get even angrier-France/Macron-That country experiences the t n n n nMC. It also has n , so they fight against imposed restrictions easily. The "social unrest" will last long...while garbage pile in the streets of Paris-strikes!-

cubic » LL1988 They lied to you on the TV! Goddaym.

sim » iris70 Thanks Iris.

Barbault predicted that policies would be ´nebulous´ until 2026, with reference to the Saturn/Neptune cycle. Nebulous indeed, hovering between the autocratic and the rebellious.

He adds
´The next conjunction in 2026 will be centrally placed at the beginning of Aries and is in a triangular quartet (sic) of planets with a double sextile to a trine between uranus in Gemini and Pluto in Aquarius´ (I suspect this is not well translated)

he goes on
´This is the most benefic configuration of the centruy and its interplaneternaty partnership will work for the best in a splendid relaunch of civilization´.

He had predicted ´generalised chaos´ for the years 2020-2023.

cubic Before astrology I used to use music and changes in female fashion to track huge changes in society, cause they react first. Sometimes theathre plays too..


So when I´d see profiles sporting pictures like these suddenly, I´d think we´re in for strange times, some avant-garde stuff, and I´d be dead accurate: