Evil fixed stars

June 4, 2020 at 11:43 (UT/GMT)
(Pisces) bluerosepetals
Evil fixed stars
So, upon inspecting the position of fixed stars in my natal chart, I realized that I have Alcyone and Algol conjunct my Ascendant. Now after you read about these fixed stars, you might conclude that I won the absolute astrological lottery, because I don´t know if I will first become blind, beheaded, a sex addict, or become the next Stalin (I guess I can send my haters to gulag, so that´s a plus). Just kidding... or am I? :76:


"Ascendant conjunct Alcyone: Blindness, ophthalmia, injuries to the eyes and face, disgrace, wounds, stabs, exile, imprisonment, sickness, violent fevers, quarrels, violent lust, military preferment, trouble and loss through women. If at the same time the Sun is in opposition either to the Ascendant or to Mars, violent death."


"Algol conjunct the ASC. Algol is the worst fixed star. It is associated with Charles Manson types. This is not to say you are a Charles Manson if you have this, but you will have dark impulses, most likely."

Now that I have revealed my dark side, I will sit down and wait for some input about these stars (and any other fixed stars that are traditionally deemed evil) that is maybe slightly less fatalistic. Feel free to share the evil in your chart as well. :21:

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June 4, 2020 at 12:52
(Pisces) light
From the 15 major fixed stars (I only counted conjuctions within one orb, apart from the moon):

My Saturn conjucts Algol (moon conjucts alphard):
"Saturn conjunct Algol: if the Moon is with Alphard death by water or poison"


My Mars conjucts Antares:
"Mars conjuct Antares: This brings brutality and the person is in a rage over many things. This individual can even feel the rage at the bottom of their spine as this energy comes up the spine causing energized adrenal glands. They are enraged over the philosophies of society, such as the court system, religious disciplines and the government. They are enraged over any limitations, those limiting structures in the home, work, the government, religions and the military. They do not understand what their problem really is, they just know they are angered at everything. They respond to incidents that are trivial to others with chaos and aggression. They are especially destructive to those close to them for they are the ones who receive the greatest anger. These natives are never in a calm state and will literally beat anyone down who gets in the way. They do not feel any remorse or sorrow after hurting another being: they absolutely lack compassion."


I guess I´m eviler than you, Vozhd Stalin :21:. Too bad you can just drown or poison me.

On a more serious note: Most fixed stars have horrible descriptions and they only count if they are very closely conjucted with something.
June 4, 2020 at 14:03
(Pisces) bluerosepetals » light
Oh dear, I have met my evil match! :21: I must prove my evilness so I am not surpassed and thrown off my throne! Off to gulag with you!

On the brighter side... my Mercury is conjunct Deneb Algedi:

"Mercury conjunct Deneb Algedi: Melancholy, quiet, solitary, unkempt or ragged, student of nature, science or philosophy, engaged in trapping animals or reptiles, snakes or poisonous beetles which do not harm the native. [1] This is a beneficial placement. This creates a healthy and continuous energy flow throughout the entire body. It brings harmony and balance within the individual so that their lives are harmonious, healthy and well-balanced. Whatever career or work they have chosen, they are always recognized for what they do. Their hopes and wishes come to fruition with this placement."

I actually like snakes. I´d definitely like to trap one and keep it as a pet. Maybe my violent death will come as a result of my pet snake eating me alive.

Algol is actually widely conjunct my Ascendant, so perhaps I´m not Charles Manson after all. I agree that tighter aspects have more effect, although I would count them up to 3 degrees.
June 4, 2020 at 14:15
(Aquarius) Leo Moon » bluerosepetals
Stars are evil? I guess if they go supernova when you’re nearby they could be.

You have no need to capture a wild snake and cage it.
The exception is if You are in Florida and capture an invasive species of snake.

There are responsible snake breeders that will help set You up and help advise You on proper care.

I prefer cats, but I’ve had a couple friends who love having snake and reptile friends. They are cool animals.
June 4, 2020 at 14:28
(Pisces) light » bluerosepetals
You know, the weird part is, I looked up Charles Manson´s chart and nothing on his chart conjucts the Algol.

If we go by three degrees then Sirius conjucts my North Node. Astrology King doesn´t have a description for that but it says that I share this aspect with Adolf Hitler (more points to me! :21:)

And deneb algedi conjucts Uranus:
"Many sorrows, engaged in reform, unbalanced mind, may seek someone’s life as a mission, unfavorable for marriage, strange and peculiar or violent death. "

Well I guess you can´t send me to the gulag if I violently and peculiarly drown myself in poison first!

It would be interesting to search about all the fixes stars, too bad they are 283 or something like that.
June 4, 2020 at 14:35
(Pisces) bluerosepetals » Leo Moon
Hahaha yes! Well this thread was meant to be more humorous than serious. :4: I just always laugh a little when I read such fatalistic descriptions. We would all be walking evildoers if it was really like that. But maybe it does work that way in already very afflicted charts.

Yes, I would like to own a snake one day if everybody I will live with will agree. So far it was impossible - my mom faints upon seeing an image of a snake. If not, maybe I will negotiate a lizard. :2:

I like cats too. I would actually probably own a whole farm of animals if I could.
June 4, 2020 at 14:40
(Pisces) bluerosepetals » light
I just found out that Donald Trump has his Midheaven conjunct Algol (1°). It´s time to pray for the USA.

"Astrology King doesn´t have a description for that but it says that I share this aspect with Adolf Hitler (more points to me! :21:)"

Hahahaha do you feel like starting WWIII by any chance? We can fight each other. If we don´t die before that. :4:
June 4, 2020 at 14:43
(Virgo) MarvinReal
Very interesting and great to see you´re posting a new topic, Lune!

This is conjunct your Mercury

Aldebaran is exactly conjunct your True Black Moon Lilith. Hard to find any interpretation. Just need to imagine.

Looking at my chart I have Alcyone and Algol near Descendant. What is worrying me more is Alkaid. I thought it´s alright star, but nope. Alkaid Is conjunct my Sun.

Do you see any real life meaning except of what you already mentioned?
June 4, 2020 at 15:00
(Virgo) MarvinReal » light
Antares is a fiducial star in star constellation of Scorpio (astronomical). It is where Mars is at home, in Scorpio, even more with Antares (Alpha Scorpii). The original Babylonian zodiac was fixed to sidereal axis of Aldebaran<>Antares. Complaining about Mars conjunct Antares is like interpreting Venus conjunct Aldebaran in a negative way.
June 4, 2020 at 15:04
(Pisces) light » MarvinReal
I know almost nothing about fixed stars. I just saw the description and it was pretty negative. I didn´t take it seriously anyway, I think you can see it from my posts :4:.
June 4, 2020 at 15:12
(Virgo) MarvinReal » light
That´s great. I don´t give fixed stars bigger attention either. Except of the fact that Antares is certainly not in Sagittarius like Tropical zodiac portrayed.
June 4, 2020 at 15:12
(Pisces) light » bluerosepetals
"Hahahaha do you feel like starting WWIII by any chance? We can fight each other."

Sure. Is July okay?

"If we don´t die before that. :4:"

:61: You can say that again.
June 4, 2020 at 15:13
(Virgo) MarvinReal » Leo Moon
When you call some person that they are a star or even a superstar, what that actually means? Stars are evil on very big distances. You would die of radiation several light years away, even if you would accidentally survived conditions of outer space, which is safe to say that you wouldn´t. Beware of evil stars.
:11: :21: :78:
June 4, 2020 at 15:14
(Pisces) light » MarvinReal
Have you any idea why are they all so negative? Btw when it comes to fixed stars some people look them up to find something about.. starseeds?
June 4, 2020 at 15:19
(Pisces) bluerosepetals » MarvinReal
I feel like this paragraph explains Alcyone´s effect well:

"Alcyone as representative of all Pleiades is given a larger orb than is usual. The Pleiades correspond in their influence to a combination of Moon and Mars. If well-connected otherwise, this points to ambition and endeavor, which have as their result preferment, honor and glory. The power of Mars is good in raising people to high position. However, with other relevant planetary connections, this can make for high passion and ruthlessness. The best example here is Stalin. Alcyone, Pluto and Algol are in conjunction in his nativity. Unfavorable connections bring the danger of enmity and fall from power."

You can see why I compared myself to dear Stalin. :4: However, on a serious note, my Ascendant is generally well-aspected except for opposition to Pluto. I do consider myself amibitious, but I think I have yet to see my possible rise to high position (a bit young for that). I do like to have influence on matters that I find important, and I do have a drive to become successful, so we shall see.

Now about Deneb Algedi...

"It is related with an amazing ability to recognize the key factor, scattered among a multitude of similar elements that show up simultaneously or in sequence."

Yes. I was always quite good at pinpointing the key factor among large amount of similar data. This helped a lot in academics. I´m a fast learner and I usually didn´t have to work too hard or waste a lot of time because of this ability.

Aldebaran seems to have a favorable effect from what I´ve read, and my Lilith is well-aspected (aside from the opposition to Pluto). However not entirely sure what it could mean. The article mentions a riotous and restless nature, which seems to blend well with Lilith themes.

Alcyone on the Descendant is actually portrayed in a positive way:

"Descendant conjunct Alcyone: The Pleiades setting can have just the opposite nature. If aspected by benefics (when setting) the indications are of a pleasant death and if aspected by both malefics and benefics the native is said to be fond of arts and perhaps even become a painter who will acquire great honors in his lifetime."

So you have Mars conjunct your Ascendant and Alkaid conjunct your Sun. The description about Ascendant conjunct Alkaid seems favorable, but I am not sure about the Sun. I believe that it should make you highly driven and persistant together with that Mars on Asc, but also may make you prone to accidents or injuries.
June 4, 2020 at 15:24
(Pisces) bluerosepetals » light
Yeah, I mean 2020 already sucks, why not start a war as well just for the lulz. :2:
June 4, 2020 at 15:50
(Aries) hh » light
alot of those fixed stars descriptions were written in the dark ages.

marvin is right, if youre going to use fixed stars you have to use the fixed sidereal zodiac or you´ll be creating chaos for yourself.
June 4, 2020 at 15:55
(Virgo) MarvinReal » bluerosepetals
Explore the Etymology and Symbolism of the Constellations

Introduction To The Fixed Stars






and many other fixed stars in astrology, astronomy, mythology and history.
June 4, 2020 at 16:02
(Pisces) bluerosepetals » hh
Yeah, I agree that using the Sidereal zodiac is the right way to go with fixed stars. Alcyone isn´t in Gemini, it´s in Taurus.

Beheading definitely isn´t what typically happens to a person living in modern western world, so yes I assumed that these descriptions are very dated. Beheadings and all other kinds of execution were usually reserved for criminals, and riotous or heretic people in the past... so maybe in modern times the meanings of these stars should be more tied into these themes. Being in some way deviant from society, for better or worse (only these days you usually won´t get executed for that). Misuse of power also, fall from grace, yeah.
June 4, 2020 at 16:03
(Virgo) MarvinReal

*[Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923].

*[Fixed Stars and Their Interpretation, Elsbeth Ebertin, 1928]

[The Living Stars, Dr. Eric Morse, p.36.]

STAR NAMES: THEIR LORE & MEANING - Richard Hinkley Allen




June 4, 2020 at 16:10
(Pisces) bluerosepetals » MarvinReal
Thank you, Marvin, for these links! :62: They seem very informative. I will comment if I find something particularly interesting in them. :1:
June 4, 2020 at 16:34
(Virgo) MarvinReal » bluerosepetals
You´re welcome! It´s enough for several years I think.
:78: :4:
June 4, 2020 at 21:03
(Pisces) bluerosepetals

This list gives a nice overview of personality traits connected to the influence of various fixed stars when they are conjuncting certain planet or angle.
June 4, 2020 at 21:08
(Aquarius) Leo Moon » MarvinReal
Yes. That is true. Yet without the Sun, which is a star no life would exist.

I ascribe to a Zen Taoist philosophy. Yin and Yang.
June 5, 2020 at 01:19
(Pisces) fishscales
Eh... Like everything else, fixed stars have degrees of magnitude (literally and figuratively)

I have a supposedly evil fixed star conjunct my ascendant...Algorab..

One of the things Algorab is associated with is being a scavenger... I like repurposing stuff...

It´s also associated with fiendeshness and lying...I´m sure I have some exes who would accuse me of this...

Any astrological influence can be outgrown or transmuted though...

These days, some people might call my pracitical jokes at work fiendish.. And many are based on deception...so there´s my fiendeshness and lying, in my 48th year...

Those energies may still be in you.. But it all depends on how you choose to use them... The stars don´t decide that...
June 5, 2020 at 08:39
(Pisces) bluerosepetals » fishscales
I feel like even if I relate to some traits described in the articles, there are other explanations for that in my birth chart. I am not sure really how relevant they are actually are.

Yes, free choice is always there.
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