Pluto in Aquarius - Discussions, questions

Anthony19 What is this chart set as location?
I am not a Mundane astrologer either but it is an interesting topic and I am happy to see this thread.

iris70 So, we are attempting to discuss about huge transition here. t will first enter on 23rd March this year, but will rx back to on June 12th, will re-enter back in January 2024, in and out of , until November 2024 that it will enter to stay for good for about the next 20 years.

in a few words, signifies unconscious currents, needs and taboos.
is about breaking rules, balancing differences, justice and freedom.

Most Astrologers consider this transit to bring transformation to several institutions, bring new ideas, new themes, we may become more consciously aware of injustice and inequality and may heighten our need for independence, reform and freedom, emancipation, renewal, decentralization and networking.

Recession has been an issue with and will, hopefully offer solutions using technological developments and innovations. Technology is a major part into our lives already. Crypto- currencies have emerged while was in and it is suggested that they may be used more extensively with .
It is also suggested that robots/virtual reality may become a part of our lives, that we may have more *virtual classes* and in general changes in education, that we may experience advancements in space travel too.

Technological breakthroughs may offer a solution to the issue of natural resources and energy crisis that the transit of in has intensified. Some scientists suggest a more extensive use of energy produced through nuclear fusion, which is almost endless and can supply people with cheap and *clean* energy. However, the dangers of using such a source of energy are very high too.

We may also experience new computing innovations, everything may become more digital, some have suggested the use of digital IDs for example.

The last time was in , humanity experienced both the French Revolution and the independence of the United States. This time around we may experience similar themes in parts of the world that people feel oppressed as Pluto gives power to ideas, there is a strong drive and a lot of passion to go after our ideas, an intense desire for social equality. We can expect social unrest, as there may be a clash between those who fear change and the new ideologies. is a fixed sign and this may result into fanaticism.

Secret societies may emerge and many astrologers predict a new age of enlightenment, as in passage will coincide at some point with t in putting an emphasis on the Air element, which is highly intellectual. Most astrologers anticipate this as a *favorable* astrological combination for Humanity.

In our personal lives, Pluto in Aquarius urges us to transform our view of ourselves and our place in this world.

Please, comment, add what is missing, correct, if something is not 100% accurate, but most importantly express your thoughts on this major transit, as to how it may effect Humanity and how it may influence you on a personal level.

iris70 » Anthony19 It is set for Greenwich. I cannot think of anything else, this is the location most astrologers who are into Mundane use.

ASTRSEEK Admin, Petr9 » iris70 It might be bettter to switch off house system (Extended settings > House system: No houses)

to avoid confusing about houses across the globe

iris70 » iris70 On a personal level, those with planets/angles in will be affected the most, as is the strongest aspect suggesting huge transformation of the planet/themes that concern the angle he t will influence. Also, check the house(s) this planet rules, as you can expect major changes in thse areas.

Those with planets/angles in will be affected too, as t will oppose those placements and this is likely to affect relationships too, as the aspect is , through projection. If this is the case, compromise may be a solution, as a means to avoid intense conflicts.

Check, if you have placements in and as t will those placements and this will be stressful, as you may experience tension and fear as we become aware that some change is required and most people do not welcome change, we are afraid of what this will be.

I do not mind about and ; the outers exhibit their potential through stressful aspects. Maybe, there will be some temporary strain with , but this won´t last too long, as those aspects have small orb.

What are your thoughts?

iris70 » Graham Hmm...if your chart is accurate, n MC!
Any take on how it may manifest? Do you work? Are you in IT, or you use it for your job?

Lonerose99 » iris70 Right at the start it will 9h in from the 12th in my chart. Natally and are aspected by from 7 to 9.

iris70 » Ana Cerveza I do not know how accurate Ana´s natal chart is, but I will use it, if Ana allows it, otherwise, Ana, please let me know and I will delete my post right away.

Ana has got in the cusp of 2nd, so I would suggest this to bring up 2nd house themes of finances, resources, self-worth issues, how you manage spending, we form our *identity* from what we own, possess, or attach to ourselves, our capacity to spend, as what we own offers us *security*. Maybe some of these attachments have to be re-evaluated, some transformation is implied here.

Ana has got a 8th house and it rules IC. She also has , and finally . Of course, all this will affect your chart during the next 20 years, during which ALL of us will be affected/changed. So you are not the only one on the planet affected!

Ana, I can delete my post right away, if this is not comfortable to you! I just referred to your chart, because you brought this matter up.

iris70 » Lonerose99 Right, Lonerose, I´ve seen it! N rules your IC, but currently t is affecting your n . ruling 10th, also about beliefs be it philosophical /religious or political beliefs.

Let´s get all prepared!

iris70 » iris70 Personally, I have 2 placements in Fixed signs, and .
however is a very important planet in my chart...

It will take years to to get there!

Lonerose99 » iris70 Been a shakeup for sure as far as beliefs, etc. Stirring up things that are no longer necessary to believe, therefore a hindrance to my growth.
Better late than never, what took me so long lol. .

iris70 » Lonerose99

ZynCitrus » iris70 Whit this chart and Ur0ve0NN in 10th I see Uranus will continue mocking our values and money in general, it means nothing and comes from nothing (billions lost in crypto), youtuber makes 100x doctors salary and so on... It did this just being in Venus sign now venus is there too and NN, so we will see something with beauty, start liking totally obnoxious faces and hairstyles and everything that is strange to us. With NN will will just love that illusion. Mercury in Aries on MC - we will be louder and louder and more rude in expressing ourselves, individualized and estranged from another with Pluto on DSC, this thing with individualization and seen with Chiron with Jupiter, which can be double-edge sword also, can over exaggerate the ego or make problems we have with our self and body more visible. Everything is in the 10th... many things are getting visible and revealed but it´s in Aries, if we were not aggressive enough by presenting ourselves (social media) I´m afraid how will it look like later. Since Pluto after this is going to Pisces I think that then it will all disappear, resolve...all this that Uranus in Taurus with Venus and NN is mocking (our material world and values, things we own and accumulate).
Neptune sqaure mars is never a good thing, waving a sword in a fog. Unclear actions unclear path, all in air, mind is confused, unclear thoughts.

I will have continue of Uranus square to chart ruler and Neptune squaring my Mars. I already have burnout because I chased money, so how much worse can it be? Oh yeah, Saturn will sqaure my moon.

In 10 years I will have Pl180ve chart ruler...and as a owner of a mo0ur I see I (Ve) will have to fight with system (pl)

Cheers everyone.

Graham » iris70 Natal Uranus is indeed on my natal MC. … It manifested as challenging/upsetting my workplace managers and having a reputation for being a “maverick” in my professional career. Hence, it slowed down my climb up the promotion ladder until after the First Saturn Return.

I used IT in my professional career, but was not an IT professional. (I was an accountant)

iris70 » ZynCitrus Thank you for that, you have indeed made some interesting observations!

iris70 » Graham Thank you for that! I gather that you also value your independence and freedom a lot! You were also seen as a rebel big time!

ASTRSEEK Admin, Petr9 » Graham I use slightly different (older) version of JPL DE ephemeris than current swiss ephemeris JPL DE - so there is a slight difference in the fraction of seconds 0°00´00´´xx

This difference is not visible in planet positions - but it can make this cca +-10minut difference in exact ingresses of slow planets

(I will probably rather update my ephemeris database to match swiss_eph)


The current swiss_ephemeris should calculate the Pluto ingrees at 12:24 UT/GMT (not 12:30)

Pluto ingress in Greenwich, UK, Europe

ASTRSEEK Admin, Petr9 » Petr9 Pluto ingress in Philadelphia, USA, Pennsylvania

s81 The Pluto ingress chart to Aquarius just sucks, specially after the very bad charts we´ve been stacking up since the last Jupiter-Saturn conjunction. What a boomerang for the crazy behaviour of the humanity of the last century.
In a world situation like the current, the Sun in square to Mars sounds like more wars, and rumors of wars (Mars in Gemini) driven by governments (trine to Saturn) may be overseas (square to Neptune) and may be nuclear (inconjunction to Pluto), but specially with massive impact on people via the square Pluto-Moon, with the Moon in Aries beyond the Jupiter position... hopefully her memory helps.
Also climate change seems to speed up with Venus in Taurus disposing the experiences of the North Node and the powers of Uranus (disposing the massive effects of Pluto), at least until Pluto moves to Piscis. :facepalm:
The good thing is that we can enjoy the present twice.

iris70 Alright, whether we use the chart Petr has posted, or the one I did in the 1st post, there is little difference.

There is AC, a fixed sign, which implies stability or permanence and is the sign of the autocrat, those standing in the spotlight, distinguished individuals, royals. is the sign of the ruler breaker, the reformer, who wishes to break free from tyranny, it has a humanitarian focus,is future-oriented, focuses on groups, society, and the world at large, there is some sense of justice in this sign that serves the purposes of many, not an individual. Being an air sign, the focus is on the intellect, common sense and willpower to bring change, liberation, independence and justice. Both signs are opinionated, so there can be a clash, neither of them giving way.

T stands AC and this is what seeks: to bring transformation to existing structures, transform the view of ourselves, bring up new ideas to resolve issues, using technology, innovation in all fields, including medicine and change structures/bring reform to pre -existing ones with people uprising to bring up justice and freedom.

what particularly stands out is the angularity of
MC, which highlights qualities of being about education, common sense, is related to public speaking/writing, science, also political meetings and debates, it governs intellect-in a few years´ time we will have t that will facilitate this further-is related o commerce, trade, persuasion, but be careful, as it can get dishonest!, is related to advertising, news and information. All that will stand out. Also note that is according to many astrologers exalted in , so no wonder the prominent position.

Graham » iris70 "I gather that you also value your independence and freedom a lot!"
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I prefer to think of myself as someone who values the truth (rather than my independence and freedom), IRIS.

Hence ... my focus upon getting the correct time for the Pluto ingress - regardless of whether it is produced by the Astrodienst calculator; the Astro-seek calculator or neither.
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"You were also seen as a rebel big time!"
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Yes That has cost me several promotions in the workplace, and got me banned from the Astrodienst Forum (+ 2 others). ... However, those "punishments/consequences" were not for being a rebel - they were the result of not having learned how to rebel/"ascertain the truth" in a socially acceptable way.

Astro-Seek.com » Graham System message: Post has been written by user Hylonome, who already deleted profile on this website:
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"not having learned how to rebel in a socially acceptable way"
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Is it possible "to rebel in a socially acceptable way"?

(I guess this question is still related to the thread "Pluto in Aquarius" somehow? )

iris70 » iris70 The , the leaders/Monarch/royalties/prominent people/institutions is in 9th of higher education, related to law, Universities, shipping, preaching, has to do with professors, scientific institutions, publications/internet.
The thing is that , so afflicted, rules , the sign resides and this is about turbulent times for people of authority, bringing disagreement, classes, social unrest, trouble for figures to carry out their mission, meeting resistance, uprisings, warlike situations, hostility, difference in political parties, crime and death may occur to high standing people, crime and trouble.

It is very important that is at 29th degree +, so there is a sense of urgency, it is poised for change but must attend to pertinent, sometimes denotes crisis situations, which should be resolved before we move on to a new scenario. It looks as if the closing of a chapter, there is some sense of finality.
stands for rebels, wars, violence, soldiers, criminals, is about arguin, debating, especially in , desires to bring change, as it is related to both and , is therefore also related to diseases, death, infections, epidemics, being 12th cusp may indicate a rise in crimes, assaults/murders, trouble related to prisons/institutions/hospitals and is related to the spread of CONSPIRACY THEORIES as well as SECRET ENEMIES, so be careful who/what you trust, what their agenda is, why they spread such rumors .
As it was already stated, is not great news, as they are considered somewhat opposite.
is related to socialism/communism, left-wing political ideas, it is related to secret plots, fraud, all illicit undertakings, bogus companies, loss and this is what drives into action and gets him so rebellious and angry! The wish to uncover anything dishonest and restore justice!

iris70 » Graham It makes perfect sense!
Thank you, dear rebel!

iris70 » iris70 All this drive the people crazy , who appear to easily trust conspiracy theories spread and wish to get active, restore Democracy in parts of the world-according to my Mundane book-. The people are highly interested in the affairs of the leaders/prominent people, being in 10th.
Unfortunately, is which is...well not good news, as the people are infuriated by political undergrounds and the rise of organized crime.

Back to , it is in Mutual reception to , exchanging Rulerships, so these two work together as a team, supporting/fueling each other, even without an aspect between them-according to my opinion.

I have much more to say, but I need to do some household chores right now!