Libra moons-sociopaths??

June 18, 2022 at 22:30 (UT/GMT)
(Pisces) 11
Libra moons-sociopaths??
Or maybe this will be more specific about HASTA nakshatra moons.
I just had a conversation with a guy with this moon, totally fresh contact, only 2 hour talk, but feels like I know him so well now. I always feel attracted to this energy. And it’s actually a freaky feeling, since I have had it before with same moon guys (never ends well).. and after I have seen this video (her series are sooo good!!)

I know it’s quite subjective, how she (or her team?) chooses, which aspects to highlight and which little clips adjust..
But it has now ruined so much my thoughts about Hasta moon men (or my eyes opened lol), how she mentions word sociopaths, master manipulators.. and I’m like YESSS I have seen this sociopathic behavior over and over with this nakshatra. What’s wrong with them?
Why are they so charming!!!? And why it is so easy to fall for them.. But then they start to play these sick games. (watch the video to understand)

She mentions also, how women with this moon are almost complete opposite, little virgin angel beings. I don’t fall for that. I still think Amber Heard is hasta moon. So is Meghan Markle, and so many accuse her of narcissism (I haven’t researched why)

What is your experience with this nakshatra men/ women? Anything good?
I still can’t hate them, they are so charming :42:

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June 18, 2022 at 23:09
(Pisces) 11
Also Amber Heard - giving birth by not being impregnated..
And she wants to stand for women’s rights so bad
June 18, 2022 at 23:50
(Libra) Kélian
The word "sociopath" has a very different meaning that what you´re talking about.
Sociopathy basically has to do with being antisocial, which is completely opposed to being manipulative, something which requires social skills.

That being said, interpreting the Libra Moon as only being able to manifest in the most extremely negatives manners imaginale, only being able of creating manipulators is just...not very smart, and shows that this person simply don´t know astrology, or too superficially.

Libra Moon is basically supposed to make someone adaptable, agreeable, inclined toward harmony between people, and charming.

In some ways, this Moon i imagine could be perceived as manipulative if she´s too agreable, or trying too much to please everybody. But "manipulative" would not be the right word for it, because this would be brought by the more indecisive manifestation of Libra, not manipulation itself which is not a characteristic of Libra.

Also, this Moon can act very positively as well.

I just don´t get where this opinion is coming from, and i don´t want to listen to the whole video as i find this woman incredibly boring, inconsistent and illogical. I don´t get what she´s trying to do or why people follow her.

Also i wouldn´t ever trust someone who charges 20$ for "determining their Planetary dominance type" when many free calculators, like the one on Astro-Seek, can perfectly do it.

If you want to learn astrology, read books written by confirmed and recognized astrologers, don´t do it through watching cheap videos made by bimbos who´s just reading a text probably written by somebody else and puts together some clips...
June 19, 2022 at 00:13
(Pisces) 11 » Kélian
You are right , can’t be extremely negative only, but I chose to focus on it here on this post.
I understand that not all Libra moons are sociopaths.

But I disagree that she’s boring or a bimbo, I think she provides so much good content, that many overlooks, or haven’t read in those confirmed astrology books. Then again I agree it’s subjective and can be misleading at times.

And yes this seems not fitting to Libra moons in general, but to Hasta nakshatra.

But thanks for your thoughts, the charming guy I talked to is also born October 5th :78:
June 19, 2022 at 00:33
(Pisces) 11 » 11
Also I think she uses good resources (Including those books, that I haven’t ever seen or touched), it’s not like she makes these things up.

But the misleading part is the selection process itself - how she chooses, which parts to emphasize and which to leave out.
And when a person makes such video, it will be always biased with personal touch, and she chose to paint quite bad picture on this..

I’m such person, I get influenced easily, so it affected my view on this nakshatra, just by this bad emphasize (which fits my experience).

But I want to know about others experiences too with this nakshatra moon
June 20, 2022 at 11:36
(Pisces) 11
In past few days 4 Hasta moon guys have reached out to me, not related to this post :22:

Patterns in general is a Libra thing isn’t..
June 20, 2022 at 11:41
(Pisces) 11
“ The word "HASTA" can mean mentally ill in Turkish. I think I got confused there while translating. :61: :61:

.. some new knowledge I just found out
June 20, 2022 at 13:37
(Virgo) Spork234
I have a Libra moon, but I also have Libra in Mercury, Mars and Jupiter - I wouldn´t say I was a sociopath.

I would look at other aspects in the chart - they might have squares and opposites with the moon. Mine is conjunct with my Sun (in Virgo), so I think it does balance me out a bit.
June 20, 2022 at 14:17
(Pisces) 11 » Spork234
Oh you don’t have to be..
My best school friend is also hasta moon + sun, mercury, Venus and Mars in Aquarius. She’s no sociopath, just have this humanitarian (instead of personal) and distanced approach to feelings, she likes to theorize about them a lot though.

I am hasta moon myself.
Maybe women are more spared (as also stated in video) lol being a woman, you’re naturally more emotional.

But I don’t even mean that they are sociopaths, cause it’s a serious diagnosis (but for this placement I would still believe it’s more likely than others), but I meant they behave in sociopathic ways.
June 20, 2022 at 15:53
(Aries) Sae » 11
The Moon in Libra wants to be appreciated socially, so can adopts a dominant attitude and is charming in conversation, which also often goes with arrogance, but now everyone act like that. I know lunar Libra (women and men), some of them can talk to people and attract attention, while the rest of them are typical introverts who are calm and sometimes nervous. The Moon says little, other aspects are needed that will make a person likely to be toxic in some way.

And I would like to understand your point of view - Have you ever met a sociopath?
June 20, 2022 at 16:10
(Pisces) 11 » Sae
Ok, so the sociopathic behavior I refer to includes:

Snobbish arrogant attitude (like they are above), using intelligence and excessive charm, charisma..
Lacking morals, not understanding or just ignoring “rights and wrongs” (for themselves only)
Lacking respect, consideration for others feelings, lacking empathy.
Being dishonest and deceiving, lying or just hiding things that don’t benefit them.
Constant manipulation, calculations for every next move.

Symbol for hasta is Palms and it feels like it’s meant for them to split someone’s scull in half and be able to dissect their brain. Cause they get in someone’s brain so well and adapt to them, predict their next moves.

Yes calm and silent, but will judge you so harsh silently too.
June 20, 2022 at 16:20
(Pisces) 11
Try going for them crying to receive some empathy.. you will get their cold shoulder and facts, very possible they will act like a judge and mention some unnecessary comment, how it’s your own fault. (I know, cause I do that too.. only people who appreciate this attitude, is other air signs :61: but water element will be broken hearted, cause they only wanted to vent and cry, not to receive some stupid comments they already know)
they most probably will judge you more now, cause they saw, how vulnerable you can be in a weak moment. And will say YUCK how ugly (not loudly)
June 20, 2022 at 17:54
(Leo) hermitfaerie » 11
I have known a legitimate sociopath, maybe even psychopath, but their moon was either in Aquarius or Pisces (not sure of exact birth time or place)
June 20, 2022 at 18:00
(Aries) Sae » 11
The traits that you mention don´t belong to the lunar Libra, but to the narcissistic personality.

And please answer my question - do you know a sociopath?
June 20, 2022 at 18:53
(Pisces) 11 » Sae
Oh no..No one has told me, that they are a sociopath

What traits belong to a sociopath ? I might mistaken, cause I’m not a medical specialist.. I only have read and watched a lot about them.
June 20, 2022 at 19:05
(Pisces) 11 » Sae
If I’d need to diagnose myself, I would label many people I know either narcissists , sociopaths or even psychopath :D but ofc I can’t do that
June 20, 2022 at 19:52
(Aries) Sae » 11
I checked my list with birth date of people who show toxic behavior you wrote, I list them below:

Sun conj Mercury in Pisces, stellum Moon-Lilith-Pluto in Scorpio
Sun conj Mercury in Aquarius, Moon in Aries
Sun-Mercury-Jupiter in Virgo, Moon in Pisces - she is an extremely narcissistic
Sun in Libra, Moon in Capricorn
Stellum Mercury, Sun in Libra and Jupiter in Virgo, Moon in Virgo
Sun conj Mercury in Pisces, Moon in Saggitarius - she is very agressive and violent also
Sun conj Lilith in Capricorn, Moon in Cancer

Sun in Libra, Moon in Capricorn

I know one sociopath. She consciously destroyed the lives of several dozen people, a pathological liar, a thief, a manipulator of the highest class, loves no one, but if you met her, you would say that she is the sweetest person in the world. You would become friends with her and then you would become her background for cheating other people (you would not know anything about it), unless you had a lot of money - then you would be her target. It took me several years to see her real face and I am afraid of her to this day. She destroyed my life twice.
Mooj conj Saturn in Taurus, stellum Lilith-Sun-Mars in Leo, Mercury conj Pluto in Virgo.

As you can see, different Moons, different Suns, but it cannot be clearly said that only one sign of the zodiac is toxic, and especially one Moon in particular. Check the entire chart and look for other aspects that might make someone toxic.

Another thing is that despite my experiences with the Lunar Taurus, Pisces, Virgo I CANNOT say that all the Lunar Taurus, Pisces and Virgos are bad. It is only me who met such people and I do not generalize all of them, because it can be very harmful for the rest of people with such Moons. Ans look, I´ve met toxic women more often, but I can´t tell that all women are bad.

At the end I want to say that sometimes life is not all roses. I know these people and their sad stories. I know and understand that they are sick in some way, because the experiences given to them by other people (mainly parents) have distorted their perception of reality. The harm is passed down from generation to generation and it takes a lot of mental strength and many years to understand this, but not everyone will be able to break free.
June 21, 2022 at 10:44
(Pisces) 11 » Sae
Yikes , sun mercury Pisces mentioned twice :61:

Many experience anger, but sign for it is aries.. many like quality staff and good food, but Taurus is the one ruling it..
Many like to read, share facts, gossip, but Gemini will be the symbol of that.
Many are attached their moms, but cancer will be the one associated with that.

Hope you get my point.

There is no need to talk about specific charts, when I want to focus on this placement.
I’m not talking about anyone concrete here. Just the energy of a placement
June 24, 2022 at 12:26
(Pisces) 11
So despite the eerie feeling (reminder to always trust your intuition) I decided to meet the Hasta Sun, Moon guy.
Another thing - hasta being best at smooth talking, he was able to convince me, since it’s very rare I go on dates.

We agreed on time, but he didn’t say anything for the whole day, only shortly before announced, that he is on the way and that he will be 15 min late.
Date was awkward, he complimented, charmed, flirted, didn’t talk much too, was overall nice, so I agreed to the 2nd date. He used tricks - said if I’ll meet him, he will have more knowledge about astrology than me by the next day.. (He has leo mars, so wanted to impress too I guess)
I said it’s not possible, but was intrigued. Following day he told me he spent whole night studying. Learned about planets, 12 zodiacs, houses, 4 elements, modes.. he added that he didn’t like it much.

We agreed on time. Again. No msg from him. Only 20 min before the meeting he announced that he will be 2 hours late.
At that point I was like nope (cause this was a pattern now). I told it’s disrespectful and there will be no meeting.
He insisted, begged... said, that he will be there and will wait 3 hours for me to show up.
I didn’t.. he felt (acted) devastated. Told me I was the one, and he can’t let me go that easily. (this was very off putting, he called me his soulmate like 5 times during these few days of communication).

Then he didn’t msg anything for 3 days, so I asked, if he’s ok.
He told me then, it’s good that we didn’t meet, cause next day he has met some other woman, who is so much better and started insulting me in lame ways. Suddenly I wasn’t his dream girl, but I was manipulator, who needs a doctor.

So this is the most recent experience I have with a hasta guy.
June 24, 2022 at 12:48
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My father is a Libra Sun and Moon, beat us as kids, has major narcissistic traits.

No Libra Moon would admit anything of the self, they are social climbers, they are not actually emotional people in the true sense, closer to Saturn than the Moon.

Look anywhere online where it speaks critically of Libra placements and you will find fake people defending this placement, it is the only placement which gets such a massive defence force.

My father was meant to see a psychiatrist which was a letter, he said my mum was full of bullshit and that everyone was out to set him up...
June 24, 2022 at 12:56
(Pisces) 11 » Prelude
The bad side of this placement can be really ugly. :28:
I remember another cancer guy, who said this about his Libra father some time ago. Or maybe you’re the same guy?
June 24, 2022 at 12:58
(Taurus) » 11
System message: Post has been written by user Prelude, who already deleted profile on this website:
I have been here once before, a long time ago though, not sure I typed about him here.
June 24, 2022 at 13:12
(Libra) Kélian » 11
Sociopath: "a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience."

It is the exact opposite of what the archetype of Libra represents.

Also, when talking about social behaviours and communication, the placements/aspects of The Sun, Venus and Mercury have a lot more importance than the placement of the Moon.
June 24, 2022 at 13:15
(Pisces) 11 » Kélian
I don’t associate libras with psychopaths.

Also as I said not so much about Libra, but Hasta nakshatra.
I believe it can be very anti social.
June 24, 2022 at 13:25
(Pisces) 11
I also advice to watch this for Hasta people.. remedies for hasta negatives (which includes manipulation).
June 24, 2022 at 13:27
(Taurus) » Kélian
System message: Post has been written by user Prelude, who already deleted profile on this website:
The Moon matters massively.

The Moon is an always active part of the self even socially, if you can´t socialize without feeling you actually suck at socializing since it is how you interpret others feelings in a social situation, perhaps that says a lot about yourself Mr Libra?
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