Esoteric Ruler of Aqua - Discussions, questions

Rosincvist The Hindus are keeping in Aquarius, not much to stop it from rolling along

IIyyaarr13 Jupiter is two-signed right now and has the illusion of being it´s satellite!
That leaves ; The of the debate about what IS a planet left in the sea-goat!

LotusStar » Psyle Interesting take, thanks.

But get this, after a few years of Aquarius, Saturn will move to Pisces and eventually meet up with Neptune in Pisces... So I still think, its leading there, if you´re right that Saturn/Neptune is the communism signature.

Saturn may come down hard on anti-establishment dissenters (Aquarius/Uranus) during its transit now

Psyle The typical cycle of extreme communist idealism is the Saturn/Neptune synod.

Conjunction 1 () (1846) : Marx´s Manifesto
Conjunction 2 ( ) (1882) : Russia industrial strikes,and UK Fabian socialism
Conjunction 3 () (1917) : Russian revolution
Conjunction 4 () (1953) : Stalin´s death
Conjunction 5 () (1988) : Fall of the Berlin wall.

Future Conjunction 6 : (2026) in 0°45’

2020´s Jupiter-Saturn conjunction is not merely about "communism". It says that capitalism (Jupiter) and communism (Saturn) are working together to rise above the world crisis. While an Aquarian system is indeed a lot more socialist than a Leonian monarchy, it is not as totalitarian as a Capricorn system. The danger here would instead be violent radical anarchism and its fiery riots, and an over virtualized world.

Astro-Seek.com » LotusStar System message: Post has been written by user Olenna, who already deleted profile on this website:
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I grew up in a communist dictatorial regime.
Trust me, I know the implications of such "idealism" of restriction for some benefit, have no idea who benefits from this, and who decides what´s best for people.
Looking back through history, never ever, has worked for the common people.

LotusStar » Psyle Ok to balancing wastefulness / excess but communism is certainly not the answer. When has big gov ever turned out well for the little guy?

I don´t really believe in climate change and I don´t know where you read climate change in this aspect.

What I can see is possibility of earthquakes with Uranus in Taurus being triggered by Jupiter / Saturn in Aquarius.

Psyle » LotusStar The great conjunction winter solstice chart has an exact Uranus-Lilith conjunction in Taurus. And in around one Saturn cycle (2047 in 27 years) there will be a very hard transit, again with Lilith in Taurus. This reads like climate change.

Uncontrolled jupitarian capitalism and its consumer society has been destroying the ecosystem. Without rules everything blows up. This is where Saturn´s restriction brings a balance to this hype. But the jupitarian americanized western culture has a hard time dealing with saturnian restrictions, it prefers denial. Saturnian europe has been a lot more adapted to restrictions than jupitarian america for instance which got owned by the covid. That´s what happens when people don´t respect father Saturn...and see him as Satan.

Ultimately we need a balance between Jupiter (extreme capitalism : the individual ruling the collective) and Saturn (extreme communism : the collective ruling the individual).

LotusStar » Olenna Yea same...

I don´t know how people are ignoring the fact that Saturn is strong in Aquarius and Jupiter is not. Saturn will have the upper hand and restrict the benefic abundance of Jupiter some more so more restrictions (Saturn) on freedoms (Jupiter / Aquarius) and an increase insurgance of A.I. (Aquarius) in the workforce (Saturn). Restrictions (Saturn) on travel and access to foreign lands (Jupiter).

Considering also the square to Uranus in Taurus I´m thinking the financial implications of this are huge. More financial crisis, and a push,if not complete overhaul (Uranus) towards cryptocurrency and the cashless society (Uranus Taurus).

I guess the only positive I see is that it will seperate from the conjunction to Pluto... maybe the intense fear pressure and collective hysteria will die down but things seem to nevertheless be moving into a more socialist / communist direction.

Psyle In 2021 Saturn, traditionally ruling Aquarius, will stay strong so the restructuring will carry on but on a whole different level than Capricorn, and without that heavy 2020 stellium.

Nonetheless in May 2021 Jupiter will enter his domicile Pisces and Saturn will be retrograde. That will be the real time when Jupiter races ahead. It probably highlights a beneficial summer celebrating the end of quarantine and the new aquarian wave.

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I don`t believe for a second that it will be less dark.
Wide spread socialism, communism incoming

fishscales "...........................................................then again everybody could be wrong!"

Yeah I´m going with that...

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